New Bin Laden Tape

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by yokoacura, Oct 29, 2004.

  1. There isn't much in the news at the moment as it was just aired on al-Jazeera a little while ago. Basically what he said, from what I have gathered from TV and some websites, is that it doesn't matter if Bush or Kerry is elected. With respect to whether or not they attack here again, what matters, he said, is US policy. He also directly claimed responsibility for 9/11 for the first time.
     
  2. I hope they bomb Florida.
     
  3. I should hope no policy ever put forth by the US condones the actions of criminals and murders like Bin Laden.
     
  4. & California.
     
  5. hellz naw
     
  6. That's not what he meant.
     
  7. I am a close minded jerk who thinks that Islam is retarded.
     
  8. That's absoultely retarded.
     
  9. Key excerpts from the video: The recorded message was 18 minutes in length


    "O American people, my talk to you is about the best way to avoid another Manhattan, about the war, its causes and results...

    "Security is an important pillar of human life. Free people do not relinquish their security. This is contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom...

    "Let him tell us why we did not strike Sweden, for example. It is known that those who hate freedom do not have proud souls, like the souls of the 19 people, may God have mercy on them...

    "We fought you because we are free and do not accept injustice. We want to restore freedom to our nation. Just as you waste our security, we will waste your security...

    Bin Laden said President Bush was still practising "distortion and deception" four years after the 11 September, adding: "The motives still exist for repeating what happened."

    Bin Laden added that the idea of striking the towers in New York occurred to him when "we saw the injustice of the US-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon", when, in 1982 "the United States gave permission to the Israelis to invade Lebanon" with, he alleged, the help of the US Sixth Fleet.

    He said that these events had generated a "strong determination to punish the unjust ones".

    BBC
     
  10. That fairly narrow minded, the extremist believe that, the general islamic body doesn't. Infact much of the koran intertwines with the christian bible. The biggest difference between the two texts is Islam doesn't recognize Jesus at all and Christianity doesn't recognize Mohammed at all.
     
  11. #11 Homero, Oct 29, 2004
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  12. Actually I believe that Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet, but just not as the son of God. In Islam he's not as significant as Mohammed because Mohammed was the last prophet.
     
  13. #13 yokoacura, Oct 29, 2004
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    Does the video have an English translation?
     
  14. Osama clearly has watched The Ring (ringu) too much..
     
  15. You're right.
     
  16. "...He also directly claimed responsibility for 9/11 for the first time."

    Not much way around that. He was on another tape boasting about doing the play-by-play while it all went down. But Michael Moore probably still isn't convinced (Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, yadda...).
     
  17. Exactly, he claimed that on October 2001, congratulating the suicidal hijackers.
     
  18. Excerpts from Osama bin Laden's speech

    Following are excerpts from a speech by al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in a video, parts of which were aired by Aljazeera:

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    "Oh American people, I am speaking to tell you about the ideal way to avoid another Manhattan, about war and its causes and results.

    "Security is an important foundation of human life and free people do not squander their security, contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom. Let him tell us why we did not attack Sweden for example.

    "It is known that those who hate freedom do not possess proud souls like those of the 19, may God rest their souls. We fought you because we are free and because we want freedom for our nation. When you squander our security we squander yours.

    "I am surprised by you. Despite entering the fourth year after September 11, Bush is still deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the reasons are still there to repeat what happened.

    "God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed - when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the US Sixth Fleet.

    "In those difficult moments many emotions came over me which are hard to describe, but which produced an overwhelming feeling to reject injustice and a strong determination to punish the unjust.

    "As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way [and] to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women.

    "We had no difficulty in dealing with Bush and his administration because they resemble the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half by the sons of kings... They have a lot of pride, arrogance, greed and thievery.

    "He [Bush] adopted despotism and the crushing of freedoms from Arab rulers and called it the Patriot Act under the guise of combating terrorism.

    "We had agreed with the (September 11) overall commander Muhammad Atta, may God rest his soul, to carry out all operations in 20 minutes before Bush and his administration take notice.

    "It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the American forces [Bush] would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone at a time when they most needed him because he thought listening to a child discussing
    her goat and its ramming was more important than the planes and their ramming of the skyscrapers. This had given us three times the time needed to carry out the operations, thanks be to God.

    "Your security is not in the hands of [Democratic presidential candidate John] Kerry or Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands and each state which does not harm our security will remain safe."


    (Aljazeera)
     
  19. Making fun on Bush?

    "It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the American forces [Bush] would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone at a time when they most needed him because he thought listening to a child discussing her goat and its ramming was more important than the planes and their ramming of the skyscrapers. This had given us three times the time needed to carry out the operations, thanks be to God."
     
  20. This is a case where nuclear force is not only applicable, but necessary.
     
  21. If Osama said that, then it's clear who he wants to be president. KERRY!
     
  22. Hahaha, hilarious.
     
  23. Does that mean that you agree or disagree?
     
  24. Yes, Florida needs to be bombed into the sea.
     
  25. He mentioned Sweden. Wee!
     

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