No M model for new BMW Z4

Discussion in 'European Cars' started by ajzahn, Mar 24, 2009.

  1. BMW has confirmed that it will not be producing an M version of the new Z4 roadster.

    A BMW spokesman said the decision had been made due to the repositioning of the Z4 as more of a cruiser, rather than as a rival for the Porsche Boxster.

    The spokesman said: “If we wanted to build the car we could, as we have the budget for it. The decision is a positioning one and has nothing to do with money.”

    The Z4 will be offered as an M sport model instead, rather than being a full M car. This is likely to mean upgraded brakes, suspension and a body kit, as well as larger alloys, similar to other M sport offerings across its range.

    By giving the Z4 more of a GT character, BMW is creating space in its range for a new model that would be more of a sports car. Potentially smaller, lighter and more of a true driver’s car, this new model could become the rumoured Z2. (Autocar)
     
  2. Look, it's the ultimate driving machine going soft.
     
  3. Much like the Z8 then? Time to bring to Hartge or Alpina then or some shit.
    Although Alpina made more of a cruiser of the Z8 than the original Z8 was.
     
  4. Ultimate in driving doesn't necessarily mean going as fast as possible.
     
  5. It does when your brand is known for it's sporty nature. This has always been BMW's strong point when it came to the 3 series, 5 series, 6 series and former Z series compares to their competition.

    The future looks bleak.
     
  6. BMW has claimed since forever that the packaging was a problem for them to be satisfied with putting the new v8 into the Z4. Unless the engineering and diemensions of the new Z4 are much different, why would this be news? the current 6 cylinders are nearly equitable and the iron block S54 is not only nearly 10 years old, it's also very expensive to produce. And this is a recession. This makes sense, but you two dinks are surprised?

    well.. actually.. I expected that sort of response from neeko. he's practically an inverse FNAF. Also, he's ugly as hell. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  7. It's the pug isn't it <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>

    Back to the point, it's that it's a question of a surprise, it's the disappointment.

    BMW already has spent money developing the S65 engine, that is 33 lbs less than the previous Inline 6, according to the brochure I got at their dealership. Packaging-wise, I can't find any information, but it's hard to believe that they cannot manage to fit a more compact V8 in the engine compartment over a long Inline 6. If so, that's an error on their part in the design process.

    Considering it now has an SLK-style, retractable roof, it should have a performance model to compete with the SLK AMG model. They already admitted to no longer competing with the Porsche Boxster, but even the Audi TT has a performance version. So what segment is this car competing in?

    Just because there is a recession, doesn't mean you have to produce an inferior driving machine. BMW has always been about performance, whether it's their cars or their motorcycles, recession or not. Performance is their mission statement. "The Ultimate Driving Machine."

    I'm planning on getting a K1300R this summer FYI, so don't try and say I'm Mercedes-biased.
     
  8. Gimme the old one anyways.
     
  9. The V8 was designed for the 3er. what else can be said? it's agreed by most everyone it's a fantastic engine, so I fail to see how it was built in error if it wasn't built to fit into the Z4. In any case, you can have a "ultimate driving machine" and not compete with the porsche boxter. there exists a whole range of very competent and fun sports cars that are clearly slotted below the boxster. that doesn't make them any less "ultimate" in the same sense that the M3 not competing with a LP560-4 make it any less "ultimate".

    And even the miata toyed with a retractable hardtop. would you put it up to the AMG? would you put it up to the SLK 230? <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A> don't think you'd make a comparison like that, but if you want to please feel free. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  10. You are all complaining a lot, but it seems to me they are just making room for a smaller lighter roadster, hopefully with a turbo 4 cyl in it.
     
  11. By giving the Z4 more of a GT character, BMW is creating space in its range for a new model that would be more of a sports car. Potentially smaller, lighter and more of a true driver’s car, this new model could become the rumoured Z2
     
  12. they actually made it less powerful. lol
     
  13. Meh, if I believed everything the internet told me I'd be in a bit of a fix.
     
  14. well considering most of it's buyers were women anyways, why is this bad?

    the Z3 was a #$%#ing loaf of bread and it still sold well.


    honestly, in that segment, what do you have that's really hardcore? SLK? TT? the S2000 is gone, the 370z and G37's are competitive and the Elise is on the block. Plus, they have the M3 convertible.

    I'd say this was a smart financial decision if it were true.
     
  15. From what I remember, everyone complained about the overly stiff ride in the Z4.
     
  16. The Z3 with the 4cyl and the e30 suspension is one of the best handling cars I've ever driven, you can push it right up to the limit, and its very controllable there. Great car for a mountain run.
     
  17. meh, i guess it was never a necessary car... at least anymore
     
  18. it to bad
    and im disappointed in BMW
     
  19. that's kinda a subjective comment.

    depends what else you've driven. I've driven the 3.0 V6 and it shit. It was so loose and twisted like sheet of paper.
     
  20. Well, you've got a Kobe avatar and think BMW sells a V6. Soooo.....
     
  21. LOL what?
     
  22. is it going to be fast !!!
     
  23. lol
     
  24. they are saving money for the X6M, what bmw will be in 10 years from now?
     
  25. What don't you understand? LOL Whut?
     

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