Only Ford.....

Discussion in '1963 Shelby Competition Cobra 289 Le Mans Hardtop' started by SuprJames, Dec 2, 2002.

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    Obviously 500 to the rear does not mean bhp. It means to the rear wheels. Second; obviously I am gonna get passed. When i get off the freeway, lots of cars go by me. Those I let pass me because i have no choice. However when i am up against someone, they don't pass me.

     
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    Also i live in Ontario, where unlike BC we have snow, not just rain, and I drive my truck through that horrid white shit all winter long. The trick is to know when to drive fast and when to chill. I don't know about crazy trucks, but i do know that on the first storm of the year I saw five accidents on my 10 minute drive home from work. All of them involved a mini van and 4 invoved hondas. The other was a BMW.
     
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    This a sweet ass truck, as for "Tonka", its big, bad and Yeah Yellow, Tonka screams HUGE, MASSIVE, HUMONGUS plus the Toys were the tuffest, strongest, kick-assest, toys on the planet.

    Yeah I was the kid with the Tonka, but when my brother dropped it out of our tree house and it did more damage to the side walk it hit than it received, I knew I had the best #$%#ing Dump truck in the World.
    So mom had to go get the Crane.

    The truck is sound, with gadgetry that should keep the youth in awe, the Power is ample, the Fuel Economy is Un-heard from any truck American or Japanese alike, shit The Tonkas got better fuel economy than that Sissy's Barbie Corvette. I think its one of the better new designs out of Ford recently.

    Scruff.
     
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    LOL....you do know that BC gets more average snowfall annually than Ontario right? BC doesn't just consist of the coast numbnuts. And snow is a lot of fun to drive in, hell, aside from snowboarding up at Whistler with 12m of snow, the most fun I've ever had was entering a Regional rally on SNOW. I drive regularly ON SNOW in the winter, and in the interior of BC you never even see the roads because they are always covered by hardpacked SNOW, and I'd be willing to bet you've had more trouble driving in SNOW than I ever have or will have.

    Hell, just having fun one time I screwed up on the way up to our ski hill, I was swerving left and right at about 120 km/h on the snowed over dirt road, you know, when you do that on snow, you let the rear end come out enough so that oversteer begins to happen, then you correct so that you slide a little bit, then oversteer in the other direction for a little bit so on and so forth - it's stupid, but alot of fun. Well at one point I steered to the left a bit too much so that I transferred the weight more than intended, then when I corrected I overcorrected too much and held it too long, the result being mee spinning out clockwise, I slid sideways for a bit, then came to a stop on top of a 2 meter high snow bank (kinda hard to have a snowbank that high when all you get is rain lol), well along comes somebody in a cherokee, he tries to tow me off, but he just doesn't get enough grip, so we tried digging my car out a bit, still doesn't work, then a subaru Impreza comes along, we decide to hook up the Impreza, it has no problem towing me out. Anyway, the point is that we get a lot of snow during the winter, don't make assumptions based on when you land in the Vancouver airport in the winter.

    Oh, and in the Canadian Rally championship, where do they hold all their Snow/Ice rallies? oh that's right, in British Columbia and western Alberta! (in the Rockies) So don't go spouting off like you might actually know something about winter driving, cause chances are good that you don't.

    Oh, and I've driven in Ontario during the winter, mainly Windsor and Amhertsberg, and first off, the amount of snow you guys get out there is somewhat disappointing, second the drivers are horrible with just a small amount of snow, third with or without snow - your roads are a joke!

    Oh, let me guess, when you saw those "five accidents" were the roads really slushy? cause if they were, then of course cars aren't going to fare very well, the small wheels get pushed around by slush very easily, and light cars get tossed around like you wouldn't believe. The same thing happens whenever Vancouver gets a snow storm (which generally only happens when it gets cold enough to be snow instead of rain, which is only about 3 times a year).


    I have family that lives in Ontario, they come to visit us every once in a while, they've driven here in the Winter and the Summer, and guess what? They've said themselves that our roads are difficult (I say Ontario's roads are boring) to drive, they refuse to drive in the summer now (well, most of them) when they're here, and they will not visit during the winter because they're very uncomfortable about our roads with snow.

    My cousin recently moved to Vancouver from Windsor after getting a job as a Test Technologist for an innovative, cutting edge, industrial vehicle development company, and he's said that he's learned more about driving in the last year and a half that he's been here than in the previous 6 and a half years he'd driven in Ontario. he refuses to leave Vancouver during the winter because of the SNOWY roads. And since moving here he traded his Dodge Dakota in for a Subaru Impreza TS, and said he feels much safer on our roads in it.

    One quote from one of my aunts who just so happened to work at a racing school in Ontario when she was younger, she's been driving for 37 years, and one time when driving from Grand Forks BC to Vancouver BC as she was coming down into Osoyoos, she said "Wow, back east when you see a corner that says 40km/h, you slow down to maybe 50 or 60 km/h. But in BC when you see a corner that says 30km/h you better slow down to 30km/h if not slower!" Now I personally know that's not true, because on the same road once I took those corners at about 60km/h in a Caravan (didn't have much choice the clutch was slipping and I had to keep my momentum up). But it is true that in BC those signs are there for a reason, while in Ontario those signs are just there so that people don't hit those corners at speeds considerably higher than the speed limit.

    Now, as soon as November comes I get very excited about winter coming, one of the reasons being that there are no better driving conditions than on the snow we get out here, yes, I look forward to the low traction conditions that our snowfall provides, and i'm proud to admit it, because any REAL driver likes driving on snow, and it's because of that fact that there are few places I'd want to move other than BC, perhaps Finland, I know they get as much snow, and have as good roads.

    While you on the other hand spout off crap like this "and I drive my truck through that horrid white shit all winter long. The trick is to know when to drive fast and when to chill." which is wrong by the way, the trick is actually to know how to transfer the weight, toggle the gas, use which brake at which time, etc. and I guess knowing when to and when not to go fast an aggressively does have some relevance, but it's not the most important. But things like that lead me to believe that you like to think of yourself as a driving enthusiast but you truly aren't.

    After seeing as many trucks & SU(G)V's as I have, off the road, crumpled beyond recognition in the snow, it's going to take a lot of evidence and convincing before I'll even begin to consider that they might be even remotely well handling vehicles. I feel comfortable that I can guarantee that you'd probably get in at least one accident within three years if you ever moved here. Particularly with a 500hp truck and an attitude like that, I don't think you'd even make it one winter without getting in an accident.


    oh, and to the guy that stated that turning while braking transfers weight to the front outside wheel leading to more traction, that's also what leads to rollovers, you just haven't tried it going very fast on a real road yet.
     
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    This is an embarresment? Pontiac has a Hotwheels grand am (that or grand prix, i cant remember)
     
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    BTW - it's snowing right here in Castlegar BC outside my window at this very moment.


    Just out of curiosity, how could BC possibly have what is considered to be some of the best skiing/snowboarding in the world if we didn't have any snow? Oh, and how many places can you ski/snowboard in Ontario? 1 whole place near Toronto? And I've seen that pathetic mound Pine Knob that Detroit likes to call a "ski hill" lol.
     
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    About that last paragraph on your 12 paragragh essay, I have done it a jolly high speeds(don't know for sure because your busy doing a two pedal dance and watching where your going) at a real stop light intersection. Even considering the size of the truck, I get around that corner faster than most cars do.
     
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    Unless you live in the mountains, you get rained on all year.
     
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    Well, that's funny, 'cause I don't live in the mountains and it's still snowing at just 700 metres above sea level, and btw we just had a snowball fight in the rez parking lot with all our water from the "rain" on the ground.....lol. Only the coast gets rained on most of the year.

    Jolly high speeds huh? I said a real road, an intersection has lots of room to go wide, isn't very sharp, and is far too flat. And I'll bet you haven't seen a good car get pushed to its limit in those intersections. Pedal work doesn't require looking at or much concentration for that matter, you just have to know what you're doing.

    Out of curiosity is your Silverado even a standard?

    Guess what? I'm looking out my window and it's still SNOWING!
     
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    What a moronic thing to say: ".....BC doesn't get snow, just rain."
     
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    It is a two lane to a two lane, in the right lane turning right. There isn't much room. What is your defination of a "real road?"
     
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    damn strait, what do you want its FORD, .....
    ford....
     
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    Come to BC and drive ANYWHERE and you'll see.
     
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    OOOOHHHH! You mean like the one and only road, something like 24 ft wide and REALLY LONG!?! Like a curve, right. Don't they call that a powerslide? My full size truck tops around 90 mph and the tires are to good do any fun stuff like that on a highway. We misunerstood each other yet again.
     
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    Not sure what you're talking about, I'll post a picture of what I consider a real road, but generally a road should consist of at least 2 or 3 corners that are sharper than 90 degrees.
     
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    not every one knows "tonka" means "Great" in indian...so they gon refer that this is after the toy...its probebly iS!
     
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    I got it from "Truck Trend." It is official that this is why it is called Tonka. Not after the toy truck. Need more proof than that?
     
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    Hey LM Racer why would you be so homo as to kep talking trash about a truck that could crush that f$%k it bucket 50 cent no straight man would be caught dead in honda you drive I think if anyone needs a phsyc evaluation it's you. As For GT90Concept..... Preach the word brother!
     
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    No, it's called Tonka as a Marketing thing, they DELIBERATELY painted it that colour because it's the EXACT SAME shade as Tonka's toy trucks are. Also they signed a contract with Tonka. Lastly, the TONKA part on the tailgate is written the EXACT SAME way that Tonka(c) writes it on their trucks.



    To DownwithJaps1 - You seem very homophobic, r u sure you're not gay? Oh, and guess what? everyone I know that drives a car with the legendary "H" on it, is straight, well....except for one, he drives a Dodge Shadow, he tore off the star and put a Honda "H" on the front and rear, and he's a total flamer, coincidence?
     
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    This truck does kick butt. The engine is available now in all of the trucks from F-250 and up. This truck could runover a little Honda Civic if the guy in it wanted to. I just couldn't see it off road it seems to much of a vehicle like an Escalade. It still is a nice concept.
     
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    Well, if a Civic was parked right in front of it, nose first, then sure, but don't expect the Tonka to not flip over in trying, as it would only be able to fit the wheels of one side on top of a Civic, the angle would be too much, and the Tonka would flip over on its side. But then, this truck could do the same to countless vehicles, but one thing you have to keep in mind is that the driver would have to catch the Civic or any other car first, which would be very difficult considering how slow the acceleration in this thing would be.
     
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    It uses air pressure for accelerating so it would be fast unless loaded. No, you coulding dive over a Civic. The Tonka lowers its stance if a collision is destined. You'd have to trick it into not lowering.
     
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    Well now, that's innovative, perhaps I will eventually own one afterall.
     
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    I didn't say that your car wouldn't still be totaled in a collision with a tonka, did I. This gets back into the mass wars and which is safer. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    The car would be totalled, but the occupants wouldn't be any less safe, due to the attention put into head-on collision impact absorption. Anyway, anyone who's a bad enough driver to get into an accident with another vehicle while driving a car as nimble as a Civic, deserves to have their driving career cut short.

    If I were to lose control during a rally however, and come into a head on collision with a tree, I would be far better off in my Civic, than in the Tonka which would A) either roll over on the way to the tree, or B) hit the tree head on without absorbing any impact, leaving the occupants to feel the bulk of the impact.
     

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