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Discussion in 'Classic Cars' started by Kemper, Jan 1, 2006.
The long-tails did.
No they did not... no 917/30 (long or short tail) ever ran the Le Mans 24 Hrs.
How about you learn something before blurting out an answer.
? All 917/30's are called long-tails, they are all the same
Fastest speed during a race is 405 km/h and set by a W.M.P. 88 in 1988. Fastest speed during practice is set by a Sauber Mercedes C9, 400 km/h in 1989. After that the speed was reduced since a chicane was built on the mulsanne straight.
Fastest speed set by a 917 is to my knowledge 362 km/h, this in 1971. Fastest speed by a Porsche is 391 km/h, set by a 962C in 1988 during practice.
Not when they first came out. The first 917/30s ran w/ modified short-tail 917/10 bodies, but the back tires broke loose too soon coming off apexes so the longtails were developed to make more rear downforce. This was counterintuitive to the closed coupe non-turbo longtails that raced Lemans, which were developed to reduce aero drag, not make downforce.
Weird, I thought the 917/30's only came with longtails, never new they raced with 917/10 bodies in the beginning
I tried to find a good pic- this is all I could find... Vic Elford in a 917/30 short-tail at Hockenheim in 1973.
Just to confuse you even more the 2nd pic is a 917/10 LONG-tail @ Mid-Ohio in 1973! <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
I just re-found these shots of s/n 917-024 after it was discovered in a garage near Paris about a year or so back. It's got no motor but the spare tire was still on it!
Oh my god I love this thread. And that 917k that was found awhile back jsut gets me exited.
lol weird, I thought those were just 917/10's <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
How do you just FIND something like that??
some people specialise in searching cars like these, they are like real detectives. (simon kidston, tom shaughnessey...)
some people (like me, for instance) are just lucky and stumble across 2 ferrari's in a hay barn!
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You found 2 ferraris in a hay barn? Pix/story plz.
Ooooo, a bit off-topic but now I wanna hear this too! I smell a new thread maybe?! <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
I'm not sure whether this is a 917 or even a real Porsche, but I thought I'd keep it close to other porsche stuff and put it in this thread. I'll leave it to the experts to determine what it is.
Pretty amazing setting. Imagine driving through the countryside and seeing that. You ask the farmer how much he wants for it. "I'd reckon $500 would be a nice price", he says. "FIVE-HUNDRED???" you yell out. "Allright, allright, if that's too much for ya, you could also marry my daughter" he replies and points to freckled, 200pounds, dressed in a flowery dress. "$500 will be just fine, sir" you quickly decide.
>Smokeydonuts: Do yo have any idea where those pics of 917-024 found in paris, are taken? Looks like a nice place, with that 550 and the Ford GT40
It's fairly obviously a really bad Laser 917 replica. If you have seen Herbie Goes To Monte Carlo you will know what they look like completed.
I think those were taken at Modena Motorsport in Langenfeld near Duesseldorf. The frame & a new engine were taken to Fachhochschule(Tradeschool) Aachen to be restored as a 'case study'. This pic was taken at its re-debut at the N'ring...
Oh yeah, that's just a Laser body for sale above like tdc911 said.
Thanks guys for clearing that up. I've never heard of Laser Replica's but then again, I'm only getting started on the Porsche classics.
BTW, Modena has got a very nice Miura P400 right now..
you´re right, this place looks pretty much like Modena Motorsport!
Calling a Laser a 'replica' of a 917K is being VERY kind to the Laser. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
"But such was the ability of Mr. Piech's engineers in the following year, 1970- indeed, in that white car, number 25, the one in the Steve McQueen film-I went flat out, through the kink, at night, in the rain, at 392km/h (245mph). And that, let me tell you, was exciting. The first time. In a dangerous way. Exciting to be able to do it. It took a few laps before I got to that point. But once I got up the courage to do it....".....
That was Vic Elford, Porsche Works racing driver taken from the book "Porsche Legends - Inside History of the Epic Cars" (Randy Leffingwell).
So at least in his words it *did* go near 400 km/h. 38 and a half years ago.
Also technically there was no "road version" of the 917 because there was no need in the regulations for one. FIA wanted 25 identical RACE cars to be built. Hence the Count Rossi and Grossmann cars are street-legal conversions. Great thread I only knew about the Count Rossi car. Now it would be nice if anyone could translate the german magazine about the second car...