Porsche 959 S 'Sport Lightweight'

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  1. #1 ajzahn, Apr 3, 2007
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    year 1987
    mileage 14.000 km / 8.699 mi
    Chassis No. WPOZZZ95ZHS900107
    price P.O.R.
    VAT No
    country Germany

    If one were to ask Professor Helmuth Bott, the director of Porsche's research and development division, to name his favorite car, his answer - aside from the fact that he is a keen collector of VW Beetles - would consist of just one three-digit number: "959".

    The project was officially launched on January 21, 1983 when, at the request of Professor Helmuth Bott, the engineer Manfred Bantle was appointed as project leader. Bantle took precisely one week to produce an outline specification, setting out the aims of the project in terms dictated solely by technical considerations, regardless of the cost or the work involved into the project. The FIA (Federation Internationale de I'Automobile) in Paris had introduced a revised version of the Group B rules, with the aim of encouraging more manufacturers to participate in motor sport.

    In Group C, Porsche remained more or less unbeaten for several years: it was only in 1986 that Jaguar succeeded in catching up with the cars from Zuffenhausen. The rules for Group A, stipulating limousine-type dimensions and a production run of at least 5,000 units in twelve consecutive months, made it difficult for Porsche to Group B, however, for which manufacturers were required to build a minimum of 200 identical vehicles, seemed to offer interesting new possibilities. It was to be expected that a considerable number of firms would be sending new and technically advanced vehicles onto the racetrack.

    As Helmuth Bott commented later: "One is always wiser after the event. Audi, Lancia, Peugeot, Renault, Leyland, Citroen and Ford switched to rallying with their Group B cars, and the Ferrari GTO will probably never be seen on a racetrack."

    However, at the time when the new rules came into force, there seemed to be a great future in store for Group B cars on the racing circuit, and Porsche was ready and willing to take up the challenge. But once again, its manufacturing rivals refused to join in the bidding, or went over to competing in World Rally Championship events.

    "The World Rally Championship never featured on our agenda. Some time ago, we did take part in a few events, such as the Monte Carlo Rally (which we won three times) and the East African Safari, but the expenditure involved in competing right through the season was astronomical. It is also the case that the highly specialized technical lessons which one learns from this form of motor sport only have a limited usefulness for the development of our production vehicles."

    Nevertheless, Helmuth Bott makes no secret of the fact that he would have liked to enter the completed car in at least one 'classic' rally, "just to see what our placing would be'. However, the discussions which took place at Porsche in 1982 and early 1983 were still concerned with the future of the Group B car.

    Following the decision to equip the new vehicle with four-wheel drive, the 924/944 and 928 series were eliminated from Porsche's plans: "If the engine is located at the front and the gearbox at the back, then the problem of delivering traction to the front wheels becomes impossible to solve in a way which conforms to our requirements."

    Only two alternatives remained: either to develop an entirely new vehicle, or to base the Group B car on the 911. And since there was no question of asking the 200 customers to accept a racing car in disguise, Porsche opted for the 911 solution. The plans to build a mid-engined car were therefore dropped.

    A vehicle of this kind - being little more than a racing car with a road license - would have had several disadvantages. It would have been cramped, noisy, loud and uncomfortable; and for drivers unaccustomed to handling such high-performance cars, its handling would have taken a lot of getting used to.

    Even if the Executive Board had been able to foresee the customers' enthusiastic reaction to the project, the idea of building a midengined rear-drive car would still have been rejected. However, it was not finally abandoned until mid-1983. While Manfred Bantle and his colleagues were working out a detailed specification in the spring of 1983, carefully examining all the ideas and suggestions to date - following the first project Conference on 21 February with the departmental heads Peter Falk, Hans Mezger, Paul Hensler and Helmuth Bott, all the departments had been officially brought into the decision-making process - it became clear to all concerned that the 959 represented an ideal testbed for assessing the future of the 911. And at the same time, it became apparent that this, tile oldest series in the Porsche stable, still had a tremendous unexplored potential.

    The first results of the engineers' calculations began to arrive on the project leader's desk. Copies of the provisional specification were circulated on 8 March 1983, and twelve days later, Helmuth Bott had to say goodbye to one of his most cherished designs. "The C 20 - that was the works name of the car - was a 911 which had been experimentally fitted with four-wheel drive. Since we always try out all sorts of ideas, we had been building occasional examples of the 911 with this form of traction for years, but the C 20 was a particular success. Which, no doubt, was why it was selected for the Paris-Dakar Rally endurance test the following year."

    By entering the car in this gruelling desert race, Porsche avoided breaking the rule prohibiting Group B cars from taking part in World Rally Championship events. Specific history of this car: This Porsche 959 S is one of only 29 cars built to the highest ‘S’ specifications. These cars benefited from more power (450bhp), a sportier car set-up and less weight.

    As many of the standard 959 has been converted to the more desirable ‘S’ version during the last years, does this car come with a letter of authenticity stated by Porsche recently. The car was delivered new to the Porsche Center Nürnberg in Germany on the 1.12.1987, painted in ‘Indish red’ with black interior. Since then the car has only covered 15.000 km and has been kept as a collectors car. Today the Porsche 959 is presented in perfect condition throughout. It never had an accident, still has its original interior and paintwork and is fully ‘matching numbers’. Before handing out to the new owner, the car will be fully inspected and serviced by the Porsche AG in Stuttgart.

    Please also see: www.classicdriver.fr/uk/magazine/3200.asp?id=13199

    more pics:
    >>> www.janluehn.com/stock07.html
  2. white wheels on red car with white Porsche writing is awesome, and I like the exclusivity. I'd buy it if I had lots of money.
  3. How much more does it cost over the K?
  4. P.O.R., 300k my guess
  5. 300k? It seems to me, that it would be a hell of a lot more expensive?
  6. any more fotos of it?
  7. is that the one that's bieng sold by gemballa in dupont along side an 911 gt1?
  8. don´t think so
  9. your right i think that one is silver
  10. the engine is truly a masterpiece......... Porsche has yet to create a flat six twin turbo engine that could match this one

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