Possibility of V8 in next Gen NSX is slim to none.......

Discussion in '2001 Honda NSX-R Concept' started by Zanardi 50, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. #1 Zanardi 50, Aug 10, 2002
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    WHat I don't understand is how they complain that the V8 might get worse gas mileage when in Fact already the V6's mileage is not very good to start. It is 17/24 with the V6 while the Corvette huge V8 gets 19/28.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Simple. The higher output (higher tech) NSX has higher compression ratio than the Corvette or any American Muscle, which are known to have larger displacement BUT lower compression ratio pushrod engine ,ie., lower tech. There's a system that Honda had incorporated into their high tech, high revving, high-output VTEC engines that utilizes a secondary source of fuel-air feed into the combustion chambers that provided 2 different layers of air-fuel mixture. One fuel injector provides lean (thin) air-fuel mixture, and the other injector provides the rich (thick) mixture. The reason for such complicated and expensive to manufacture system is to maximize and optimize fuel combustion and therefore puts out more fuller, cleaner, and therefore more powerful combustion. I could go on explaining how's and why's of all of this, but it's going to take me a good amount of time and typing space to put it in layman's terms. Sorry I gotta cut it short.
     
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    Hybrid eletric-power provides instantneous torque, so I would say that is a good thing, cause low-end torque combined with high hp in the high RPMs sounds good. Honda's great at maximizing what you get in a small package, so no doubt a hybrid would be following there design philosophy.
     
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    On another note, since Honda has become an engine supplier for the IRL, which uses 3.5L V8s, things will have changed things?
     
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    right. fuel efficiency and thermal effiency are two completely different things. the corvette does get good mileage, but the japanese develop their cars basd upon thermal efficiency as in how much you get out versus how much you put in. look at the supra exhaust ports and you'll know what i mean.

    anyhow the next nsx (if it has a v8, whcih it probably wont) really rests in if toyota decides to built a v-8 or v-10 supra. the word is the next nsx will be built accordingly to the acura dn-x or dualnote chassis and engine unless toyota does well in formula one this year. now we all obviously know that mr. schumacher and the ferrari team are taking formula one by storm this year, so the chances of toyota building a commemorative halo car supra is zilch. in addition honda estimates that building a high revving v8 thats specific output is 400+ horsepower and has the abilitly to compete and beat teh 360 modena would cost an estimated 800 million dollars in R&D.

    honda recently dropped its alliance in formula one with (sauber i think it was) correct? honda is supplying engines for CART as i thought, whcih is currently in turmoil. i dont know if it is recent news that they are supplying engines for IRL, but it takes an estimated 2 years to effectively test and build a new engine for these leagues.
     
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    Honda is actually entering the IRL in 2003 as an engine supplier in a partnership with Ilmor Engineering, and is pulling out of CART this year, due to CARTs rule change or so they say.

    I believe Honda cancelled its partnership with Jordan, to focus its efforts with BAR.
     
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    Yes they did. Too bad though. Jordan was actually winning championship points whereas BAR has little to show for. The Hungary Gp saw Fiscichella qualifying 5th and came in 6th in the race, and Takuma sato camne in 10th. WHereas BAR, Panis finished 12th and Villenueve was placed last after his engine grenaded.
    Well, at least HOnda is picking up momentum after they debuted the new engine 2 months back. Hope they keep working on it and close up the gap. They were on top of the world back in mid-80's to mid-90's but since then slacked off for the most of the mid to late 90's so now they gotta play catch up.I wish them luck. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    VTEC 8 cylinder *drools*
     
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    Anyone got a link to the article about the new nsx and the v8 they designed for it?
     
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    Anyone got a link to the article about the new nsx and the v8 they designed for it?
     
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    I welcome a hybrid sportscar. its about time. I'd love a car that I could commute with for cheap then go mandingo with the thing on weekends. Its the future of hybrids, nobody wants an 80 hp car!
     
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    80hp cars are gay, It takes like an hour to hit 60
     
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    Wait and see, we never know!
     
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    If it will have a V8 engine that would be great!
     
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    I think Honda will definetely stick with the V6, be it hybrid, or regular. After the S2000 engine, people expect them to deliver huge amounts of HP from small displacements, and if they made a V8 then people would have much too high an expectation. A more powerful V6 or a Hybrid V6 would really get a positive response though.
    AS for Vettes being more economical, like somebody said, fuel economy isnt necessarily related to how clean the exhaust is. A car might use less fuel, yet pump out all sorts of crap into the atmosphere. The key is getting the most efficient burn possible taking place in the cylinders.
     
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    I hope they will put the hybrid system into the nsx from dualnote.
     

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