R.I.P. for Mazda RX-8

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  1. #1 V8stangman, Aug 22, 2011
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    Mazda halts production of rotary engine sports car

    The RX-8, shown, and the RX-7 that preceded it are largely responsible for Mazda's fun-to-drive reputation.
    Mazda Motor Corp. has canceled production of its RX-8 rotary engine sports car, citing falling sales and stringent global emissions standards.

    Production in Hiroshima, Japan, ended in early July and global sales of the car will conclude later this year.

    The RX-8 and the three generations of the RX-7 that preceded it have long been the foundation the brand's fun-to-drive aura. The car's high-revving 1.3-liter, twin-rotor rotary engine produces 232 hp at 8,500 rpm -- a big punch in a relatively small package.

    But Mazda sold just 1,134 RX-8s last year, a 49 percent decline from 2009. Sales through July of 2011 were down another 21 percent.

    The RX-8, which has a base price of $27,590, including shipping, peaked at 23,690 sales in 2004. But the first-generation RX-7 surpassed 50,000 units throughout the early 1980s.

    Mazda's U.S. dealers had 300 units in stock as of Aug. 1 for a 118-day supply, according to the Automotive News Data Center.

    Mazda pulled the RX-8 from the European market last year after the car failed to meet local emissions standards. Without volume from Europe, Mazda couldn't justify selling the RX-8, a Mazda source said.

    Exporting vehicles from Japan also has become more difficult. The yen's rise vs. the dollar was a major reason why Mazda's North American operating losses from April through June grew nearly threefold to ¥7.9 billion, or about $97.6 million, from the same quarter last year

    This isn't the first time that Mazda has dropped its rotary engine sports car from the U.S. lineup. The RX-7 was pulled after the 1995 model year. A rotary-powered car didn't return to American showrooms until the 2003 introduction of the RX-8.

    And the RX-8's demise may not be the end of the rotary engine at Mazda. A source says engineers in Hiroshima are still working on the next generation, 1.6-liter rotary engine, code-named 16X, that is said to have lower emissions, better fuel economy and more power.

    When unveiled at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show, the 16X had an enlarged elliptical shape for the combustion chamber and an enlarged eccentric center stroke in the rotor. Mazda also planned direct-injection fuel delivery in a rotary engine for the first time.

    But the 16X project has been on the back burner since the financial crisis. The company chose to focus its r&d resources on its fuel-saving SkyActiv technologies that debut later this year.

    Still, Jim O'Sullivan, CEO of Mazda North American Operations, said "the rotary is alive and well within Mazda." While declining to comment on the progress of the 16X, O'Sullivan said: "We are studying what's the best way to come back to the market with the rotary."

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  3. On a serious note, what will Wolverine drive now?
     
  4. ya lets get serious and debate this
     
  5. on a lighter note
    the rx8 is retarded
     
  6. It's a completely pointless vehicle I wouldn't mind having
     
  7. I wish I had one
     
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  9. its a pos and its mazdaz fault for making it uglty and with a shitty moon engine
     
  10. moon engine haha
     
  11. they always promised more power and they never did it
    it would be a good car with 350z levels of power
     
  12. ya lemme buy a rwd 2.6666door sports car with less power then the fwd hatch the same company makes!
     
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  14. #14 dahldrin, Aug 22, 2011
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    They're so torqueless and smooth that they actually feel slower than they are, too. MazdaSpeed3 is the opposite. Loud, tourqesteers, feels faster than it is. Roommates used to have one of each and I drove both of them quite a bit (brother's Miata, too).

    http://desert-motors.com/cpg/thumbnails.php?album=42
     
  15. Another nice pic.
     
  16. i really like them. seems like a nice car to live with day to day, except for the oil consumption.
     
  17. and the fuel economy.

    I've driven my buddy's a couple of times, going from LS1 to diesel to diesel to RX-8, it just feels so gutless.

    Still a neat car and I wouldn't mind having one with a decent turbo set-up.
     
  18. my friends brother had one, he averaged something like 13mpg jesus christ
     
  19. there was never an excuse for the rx8 having less hp then the rx7. I always figured they would have it on market for a couple years and then be like jk here's the twin turbo version but it never happened.

    feel like mazda said #$%# it lets just make hot hatches and miatas instead.
     
  20. if theyre gona have a gutless torqueless motor why not put it in something light like the miata
    or supercharge it like they hinted they would when it came out

    how are cars some stupid
     
  21. I was never a fan of the RX-8.
     
  22. I didn't even realize they were still being produced.
     
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  24. Stopped caring after the Rx7.

    Damn I wish they never showed us the Furai.
     

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