Re: 2003 SVT Cobra vs. The BMW M3

M3 duh!<!-- Signature -->

 

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<b>the m3 would win. why does ford think that it can take on even bigger boys than the camaro and trans am. i simply dont get it. even on a great day a cobra could not beat a ss and a gt couldnt beat a z28. so what does ford do, add a supercharger and says lets take on the bmw m cars and the biggest rival the corvette. oh yeah cant forget lets try to kill the viper with the gt40. this car i heard it goin to be around 35k. thats a lil much for a mustang, even if it does have 400hp</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
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<b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i> Well, son, listen here...I dont give a flying monkey fu*k why one car wins over the next, I dont care if it has ram air with a jet pack on the roof. The point is, you just got your @$$ smoked...b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

ok that has to be going down on the record books as like the ultimite put down

 

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<b>What's wrong with the name AmericanHP. Most of us want power and performance at low prices. Now if we wanted the snob effect, we would buy a bmw.

<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i>
<b>And most Mustangs do handle like a boat</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Have you driven a single SN95 mustang? Do you even have a DL?

F*cking terrorist sympathizer. Live in the West Bank for a year and see how much your opinion changes, you sheltered rich boy.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Where did I say that his name was bad? I never did, I just pointed out that he of course would be totally biased towards the Mustang. No, as a matter of fact I haven't driven a Mustang, and I intend on keeping it that way, I don't want to have to wear a mullet and a wife beater and chew tobbaco.

You can take your sleazy American shit mobile, and I'll take the M3 any day of the week, snobby or not. I'd rather be a snob than white trash.

Where have I ever said that I was a terrorist sympathizer? My signature? I never said whether or not he deserved the rap, I just said that he got one. If the Americans didn't want him to have money and weapons and shit they never should have given him any.

Angus<!-- Signature -->

 

<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i>
<b>"America is considered the major turning point, because first of D-day, striking the Germans in their heart." Where were you guys during the rest of the war? Oh yeah, American considers themselves the turning point, I would say it was the fued between Hitler and Stalin.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Good. You can have your own opinion, there is no right answer. Although you basically disagree with any historian or person from that era. Stalin was important, but not as important as you think and he had a lot of support from us and some from the other allies. America's entry in the war, and d-day WERE the major turning points. A lot of people would also make a case for when we captured a German enigma machine and broke their code. This allowed us to win very many crucial battles. A lot of other people would say that its the first huge wave of U.S. troops came in and fought the Germans all the way out of France.

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<b>Can you honestly tell yourself that Isreal needs the money more than, say Euthiopia? Mali? Botswana? Isreal is rich compared to these countries. A freaking 25 year life expectancy, yeah their living it up over there.

Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Who the HELL made you the secretary of the United States budget? The people who are in charge are doing a FINE job, and if you disagree then you can run against them. You are just some dumb outsider who has no idea of politics. You just like to complain about what you think is wrong while you know NONE of the circumstances. America can't do everything, and we never said we do. We are doing the best we can which right now is better than any other country. You never told me which country you are from.

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<b>". P.S. you have any proof of that 5/7th?" Not right at the moment, I know a guy that has the stats, but I won't get them for a while. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

I have time, although I’m betting you won’t.<!-- Signature -->

 

you guys need to go back and redo history. true germans lost it after attacking russia, but not because the russians beat them, it was the cold winter that froze up the tanks and killed most of the soldiers. the americans did do alote of good, but they were't the turning point in the war it was a group effort.
you say why does us help isreal one of the best reasons is becuase of having a foot hole in middle east, same with afghanistan they got a foot hole again, and a strong one. i have posted before every country does what it does for a reason off its own good. its called politics. i think USA is also doing enough to help, they have to help them selfs now.
i am not supporting anyone but just telling so this dumb discussion is over. and for the price this car will beat the m3.

 

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<b>by the way the m3 is a far better car, quality wise. yes it has 333hp but at least its naturally aspirated. why does america, the makers of the big blocks, now setteling for superchargers, and turbos. its a shame. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Cobra R 385 NA stock Horses. I dont think there is a production BMW that can touch it.
Imagine if this engine was tuned to its max potential like BMW engines are. What an a$$-whoopin</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->



394 out of the m5 and the z8, you dont think that the cobra r was tuned to hell. they couldnt tune the 03 cobras engine anymore so they had to add a supercharger</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

No...again for the millionth time..YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. You keep digging yourself into a deeper whole everytime. You should do research before typing. Cobra engines are not TUNED to the MAX like BMW engines are. Ford engines always come out of the factory with a large room for improvements unlike BMW engines. BMW engines are engineer for more than just power, which is why they are tuned to the max out of the factory. Anther reason why Beamers are so expensive aside from the name. Make no mistake about it, luxury wise, the BMW is superior to many cars. It handles great and is well balanced. No one is saying that BMW's are junk because they are far from it. The point here is that you come into this forum talking trash, and people are proving you wrong over and over again. YOUR THE ONE THAT IS MAKING THE COBRA LOOK FAR MORE SUPERIOR TO THE BMWs with your lies and fairtales. Quality, and luxury wise goes to the bmw. Performance wise, close to both cars, but the award goes to this specific mustang. Its nothing to be ashamed of, because first off, BMWs have always been top performers. But this time around even you have to admit that this specific snake bytes with a deadly venom

 

Okay boys there has been enough pointless argueing so let me lay it down for you. The Ford Mustang Cobra is a totally different class than the BMW M3 and they are aimed towards completely different buyers. Now I don't know much about the Mustang because I don't follow American muscle, so I don't know its lateral acceleration or skidpad numbers or any of that, but if its like the rest of the mustangs, then it will simply be a straight line car. The people that will buy this watch Nascar and Drag Racing leauges. While the BMW is for more refined or "upper class" type people that do luncheons and work behind a desk.

Angus<!-- Signature -->

 

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<b>Now I don't know much about the Mustang

Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

You're right, so shutup. If you don't know about something you don't fall back on outdated stereotypes.<!-- Signature -->

 

the m3 would win. why does ford think that it can take on even bigger boys than the camaro and trans am. i simply dont get it. even on a great day a cobra could not beat a ss and a gt couldnt beat a z28. so what does ford do, add a supercharger and says lets take on the bmw m cars and the biggest rival the corvette. oh yeah cant forget lets try to kill the viper with the gt40. this car i heard it goin to be around 35k. thats a lil much for a mustang, even if it does have 400hp<!-- Signature -->

 

by the way the m3 is a far better car, quality wise. yes it has 333hp but at least its naturally aspirated. why does america, the makers of the big blocks, now setteling for superchargers, and turbos. its a shame. <!-- Signature -->

 

You want to talk cubes? The 2000 Cobra R. No production BMW can touch it. Not even the $125,000+ z8.<!-- Signature -->

 

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<b>by the way the m3 is a far better car, quality wise. yes it has 333hp but at least its naturally aspirated. why does america, the makers of the big blocks, now setteling for superchargers, and turbos. its a shame. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Cobra R 385 NA stock Horses. I dont think there is a production BMW that can touch it.
Imagine if this engine was tuned to its max potential like BMW engines are. What an a$$-whoopin

 

<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from bmwmpower24</i>
<b>the m3 would win. why does ford think that it can take on even bigger boys than the camaro and trans am. i simply dont get it. even on a great day a cobra could not beat a ss and a gt couldnt beat a z28. so what does ford do, add a supercharger and says lets take on the bmw m cars and the biggest rival the corvette. oh yeah cant forget lets try to kill the viper with the gt40. this car i heard it goin to be around 35k. thats a lil much for a mustang, even if it does have 400hp</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Your not going to fool me by saying the M3 is faster, and then start comparing a base GT to a Z28 lil' bimmer boy. Im starting to love the supercharger argument...thats like losing to a Cobra and saying....uhhh..welll, YOU have two more cylinders, THATS WHY YOU WON! YOU SUCK HAHAHA! Well, son, listen here...I dont give a flying monkey fu*k why one car wins over the next, I dont care if it has ram air with a jet pack on the roof. The point is, you just got your @$$ smoked...and looking for excuses as to WHY your slower than THAT car, is just more reason to waste even more of your life than you already have being a sore loser. We can discuss WHY this and WHY that in another thread...but lets stick to the topic at hand shall we? M3 vs. Cobra. You say, and I quote, "the m3 would win", before trailing off topic after only three words. Well, No, it wouldnt. I mean, you can imagine it all you want to, but in reality, the new Cobra has so far bested the 0-60 test at 4.5 seconds, where as BMW seems to think their M3 does it in 4.8. Not by much, but the fact still remains, the Cobra...IS faster. It also outruns the M5 in the quarter mile, which means it ALSO most likely out runs the M3 in the 1/4 mile as well, unless BMW decided to make their M3 any faster then the M5. You better call up BMW and tell them they really dont know how fast their cars are, and that YOU do. And you think $35k is a bit much to spend on a Mustang huh? Well, I happen to think that paying upwards of $55,000 for a BMW M3 is a tad bit much, when I can be at a red light and know Im going to get sadly outrun by a guy who just paid $20,000 less for his "lesser" Ford. And I know your not going to respond to me, because you never do, and I have an idea why, but I just thought Id post that ANYWAY, so you dont contaminate the knowledge of the public.

 

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<b>I dont give a flying monkey fu*k why one car wins over the next, I dont care if it has ram air with a jet pack on the roof. The point is, you just got your @$$ smoked</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


LOL! Amen brother! Amen! whiteGT, you mind if I use those lines word for word? I've stressed "winning is winning" before but I've never put it quite like that. <!-- Signature -->

 

whitegt hes not gonna respond to you cuz he knows that your right. he doenst have anything else to say. he doesnt want to admit that teh m3 is slower then the cobra.the cobra is even faster then then m5!!

 

Thank you very much...and goodnight.
And yes, you can use that quote all you damn well please! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

 

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<b>M3 duh!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Thats ok, everyones entiled to their own interpretations of reality/fantasy. You wouldnt have a website or link I could check out that has stock M3 stats that show 0-60 quicker than 4.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile run quicker than 12.6 would you?