Re: 350 hp. Deal with it.

Discussion in '2004 Pontiac GTO' started by SSfearSS, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. 350 hp. Deal with it.

    LS1 power has struck again, delivering yet another fast GM. Hoseman says this car will run high 13's. 350 hp? High 13's? More hp than the SS, which runs low 13's? Please. If you Ford boys feel like talking sh*t, take it to your Ford forums. And I'll say it again. Big hp #'s without a pussy supercharger.

    Supercharge an LS1 and see 500 hp. Said and done. Period.<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. hehehe nicely said <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
  3. and you got to pay the gas gozzler tax, lets see the only other car to get that is the viper, between all american cars. bravo for gm making you fans pay that much more tax. wow with out a supercharger well you have to pay for it somehow.
     
  4. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SSCamaroSS</i>
    <b>hehehe nicely said <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I agree, good job ssfearss.<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mariowrc</i>
    <b>and you got to pay the gas gozzler tax, lets see the only other car to get that is the viper, between all american cars. bravo for gm making you fans pay that much more tax. wow with out a supercharger well you have to pay for it somehow.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You're a freaking itdiot. The LS1, as are most newer GM engines, are known for great gas mileage. I bet this car gets well over 20 mpg in the city. The Z06 gets something like 25 city and 28 highway. On top of that the new Lingenfelter 800 hp Vette (427 cubi inches) gets 19-23 mpg!!
     
  6. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mariowrc</i>
    <b>and you got to pay the gas gozzler tax, lets see the only other car to get that is the viper, between all american cars. bravo for gm making you fans pay that much more tax. wow with out a supercharger well you have to pay for it somehow.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    well not as much as ure 450 hp viper which has a lesser fuel economy than a corvette <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
     
  7. hey did you guys hear that gm is stuffing an ls1 into a garbage truck and calling it a blazer? <!-- Signature -->
     
  8. the only reason i bring up the gas gozzler tax is because again one of the chevy fans brought up the supercharger argument. so i bring this one in and say thats the reason this car is a poss(or bad engineered) since corvette with more power doesn't have the tax.
    i got nothing against this car but hey if you guys want to go with stupid argument then so will I.
     
  9. the ls1 is a great engine, but the engine is not the only thing that makes a car<!-- Signature -->
     
  10. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from rex4ev</i>
    <b>the ls1 is a great engine, but the engine is not the only thing that makes a car</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I know that is why this is better than the monaro, because it will be lighter and better aerodynamic.<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. I just wish that another generation of f-bodies would come out to get fed the 350 HP they deserverve. <!-- Signature -->
     
  12. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 94FORMULA</i>
    <b>I just wish that another generation of f-bodies would come out to get fed the 350 HP they deserverve. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->No more like 400hp.<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. Im glad to see that the sensational LS-1 is going to continue on in something other than the base vette. I would really love to see a gto judge version with at 400 possibly the Ls-6 engine the is currenty in the Z06 (They should improve on that also, so that they widen the gap between the vette and the cobra).<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. Actually, the LS1 is a boat-anchor. It's the curse of the GTO's parent car, and I'll be extremely surprised if the GTO itself does significantly better. The first thing for me would be a supercharged 1UZ-FE transplant. Forget 350Hp, say hello to 450HP+. Out of a 4.0 litre V8? Impressive. <!-- Signature -->
     
  15. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from camaro</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SSCamaroSS</i>
    <b>hehehe nicely said <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I agree, good job ssfearss.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I 3rd that. The US will be getting a 400hp version also.<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 94FORMULA</i>
    <b>I just wish that another generation of f-bodies would come out to get fed the 350 HP they deserverve. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    that would be much more appealing than this thing.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SSfearSS</i>
    <b>LS1 power has struck again, delivering yet another fast GM. Hoseman says this car will run high 13's. 350 hp? High 13's? More hp than the SS, which runs low 13's? Please. If you Ford boys feel like talking sh*t, take it to your Ford forums. And I'll say it again. Big hp #'s without a pussy supercharger.

    Supercharge an LS1 and see 500 hp. Said and done. Period.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Actually it's not the same. The 03 Cobra can stand a helluva lot more boost with its forged internals and iron block. The LS1 just isn't made for boost with its stock 10.2:1 compression ratio. Besides that the camaro wouldn't be stock and the mustang still would be with a warranty. Not to mention the 03 Cobra has a so much potential with small little mods that the GTO will never have.

    But I guess you can't go one post without whining about the supercharger...<!-- Signature -->
     
  18. People here have been spreading some rumors as facts.

    We don't know the GTO will have 350 horsepower.
    We do know that it will weigh at least as much as the 03 Cobra.

    It will not have as much power as the Cobra, be as fast, look as good, or handle as well.<!-- Signature -->
     
  19. so true, so true<!-- Signature -->
     
  20. rumors? stop the rumors heres from pontiac.com gm said this:

    "General Motors Press Release 8:00 a.m EST June 20, 2002

    Pontiac Confirms GTO Production



    DETROIT —

    General Motors and its Australian division, Holden, have completed an agreement to return the legendary Pontiac GTO to U.S. highways in late 2003 as a 2004 model. Holden will produce up to 18,000 of the modern, high-performance coupes each year at its Elizabeth plant.

    Bob Lutz, Chairman of GM's North American Operations, was a key player in bringing back the GTO as a modern interpretation of the legendary muscle car. After he drove the Holden Monaro during a recent trip to Australia, he knew he had found a vehicle to serve as the basis for the new GTO. "I love driving this car," Lutz said, raving about the Monaro's 5.7-liter V8, 6-speed manual transmission. "It shares that V8 heritage and a brawny, muscular stance with the classic GTO, and it will make a fine flagship for Pontiac.

    The addition of the 2004 GTO to the Pontiac lineup is a giant step in Pontiac's mission to contemporize the way it expresses excitement for the 21st century. "We want to focus on creating vehicles with a clean, fresh expression of Pontiac styling and provide our customers with a 'total performance' package that delivers both impressive power and superior handling," said Lynn Myers, Pontiac-GMC general manager.

    "In the 2003 model year, we have the all-new Vibe® and the fresh look of the restyled Sunfire® and Grand Am® SE. We are following that with the totally redesigned 2004 Grand Prix® in the first quarter of 2003," said Myers. "The introduction of the new GTO in late 2003 will be the 'exclamation point" on the exciting evolution of the division, moving Pontiac performance to the next level."

    2004 PONTIAC GTO

    The 2004 Pontiac GTO will share much of the sculpted and clean styling of the current 2002 Holden Monaro CV8 coupe, with unique Pontiac brand character, including a dual-port grille and powered by a specially tuned version of the 5.7-liter LS1 V8 (shared with some models of the Chevrolet® Corvette®) mated to a choice of either a 6-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmission. The rear-wheel-drive coupe will feature 17" alloy wheels, 2+2 bucket seating, and a premium sound system with an integrated 6-disc CD changer. Additional performance and feature details are still being finalized and will be released closer to the public unveiling of the GTO at the Los Angeles and North American International Auto Shows.

    HOLDEN MONARO

    The Holden Monaro was originally introduced in 1968 and was immediately lauded as the ultimate high-performance coupe. It was the first all-Australian sports coupe of its type. Strong public sentiment led Holden officials to bring back the Monaro name for its all-new 2001 coupe. Monaro became an instant classic when it was released in Australia last October and has become the most high-profile, sought-after car on Australian roads today.

    GTO HISTORY

    The Pontiac GTO sprang to life in 1963 as a 1964 model. It has been called the most famous muscle car in the high-performance automobile history. Also known as "The Legend" and "The Great One," GTO is the car that started it all.

    Prior to 1964, performance cars were full-size hardtops and sedans with the largest displacement engines available. But, hot rodders had known for years that they could go faster if you put big engines in smaller, lighter cars. Engine swaps were standard operating procedure for this level of car buff, but that was backyard tinkering, not corporate engineering.

    Driving enthusiasts' dreams came true in October of 1963 when the $299.95 GTO option, RPO W62, quietly joined the 1964 Pontiac Tempest®/LeMans® option list. The heart of the original GTO option package was a 325-horsepower 389-cubic-inch V8, a Carter AFB four-barrel carburetor, rear-wheel drive, a hydraulic camshaft, and impressive torque. Other standard features included a heavy duty clutch, heavy duty suspension, dual exhaust, US Royal red-line tires, a 3.23:1 rear axle ratio, twin hood scoops, and an assortment of GTO emblems.

    Before Pontiac ceased production after the 1974 model year, nearly 700,000 GTOs were sold."
     
  21. It might do 350HP, you'd need an additive for your dodgy fuel over there in the 'States, though.<!-- Signature -->
     
  22. Hey dumbass, a.k.a. wakkuwu, where does it say in that huge cut and paste job that the GTO will have 350 horsepower? That's the rumor. Until Pontiac/GM announces that it will have the 350hp LS1 engine shared with the corvette, it's a RUMOR.<!-- Signature -->
     
  23. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Hoseman</i>
    <b>Hey dumbass, a.k.a. wakkuwu, where does it say in that huge cut and paste job that the GTO will have 350 horsepower? That's the rumor. Until Pontiac/GM announces that it will have the 350hp LS1 engine shared with the corvette, it's a RUMOR.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    i will also add that it gives no performance numbers of any type.

    it also shows the criminal mind of the corporation know as GM.

    bob lutz "found" the basis for the new GTO.

    what he should have done was "create" the new GTO. not find it down under.<!-- Signature -->
     

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