Re: 5.7 L V8 and only 325 HP

Discussion in '2001 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe' started by mpg, Aug 9, 2002.

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  4. I don't know much about cars, so I can't really talk here, but holy S*** LegendNH 15416 posts, that is impressive. I envy you for that.
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  5. I hate reminding all you chevy fans about this but I have to do it till you learn or chevy gets a new motor. Well icase you haven't read my other posts "My dad is younger than that motor I would sure hope they could get the SS to more than 325hp after all they have been trying to improve the same motor for the last 40 years probably. Not to mention the 5.7L is like the only V8 chevy has LOL. But once again I'm going to say 2001 Cobra 4.6 with 320hp to 2001 SS 5.7 with 325 now tell me the 5.7 isn't pathetic."
     
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    <b>I hate reminding all you chevy fans about this but I have to do it till you learn or chevy gets a new motor. Well icase you haven't read my other posts "My dad is younger than that motor I would sure hope they could get the SS to more than 325hp after all they have been trying to improve the same motor for the last 40 years probably. Not to mention the 5.7L is like the only V8 chevy has LOL. But once again I'm going to say 2001 Cobra 4.6 with 320hp to 2001 SS 5.7 with 325 now tell me the 5.7 isn't pathetic."</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Did you ever notice the huge ass price change between a GT and a COBRA??? The cobra requires "special" parts from SVT to make that power. The 2002 firehawk has 345 HP, 345 lbs of torque. So much more can be done to the LS1. There's even a 900+ HP kit for the LS1. There's also a 382 stroker kit for it (making 500+ HP).

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  7. OMG I honestly feel sorry for you. Huge ass price difference what are you smoking. It's a about the same price difference between the Z28 and the SS, and you're trying to tell me that Chevy doesn't use different parts on the Z28 to make it a SS. Besides the Cobra motor is a DOHC and the GT motor is a SOHC so it's not just "special" parts, they are basicly different motors. In case you don't know what DOHC is, it is "duel over head cam" since the only motor you and Chevy has know is the OHV. Who cares about a Stroker kit because that’s all your going to do when it comes to the ladies, you guys said it yourself the ladies like the stangs.
     
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    <b>OMG I honestly feel sorry for you. Huge ass price difference what are you smoking. It's a about the same price difference between the Z28 and the SS, and you're trying to tell me that Chevy doesn't use different parts on the Z28 to make it a SS. Besides the Cobra motor is a DOHC and the GT motor is a SOHC so it's not just "special" parts, they are basicly different motors. In case you don't know what DOHC is, it is "duel over head cam" since the only motor you and Chevy has know is the OHV. Who cares about a Stroker kit because that’s all your going to do when it comes to the ladies, you guys said it yourself the ladies like the stangs.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->DOHC-dual ovberhead cam
    OHV-over head valve
    SOHC-single over head cam

    I NEVER said ladies liked stangs, and if they do, they like them because they're good at hauling groceries.

    The price differrences between a GT and a Z-28 are actually pretty big. We're talking about 3 grand or more. The cobra has equal price (I think costs a little more) as a T/A or SS. <!-- Signature -->
     
  9. MSRP on the Z28 is $22,830, on the Formula $25,995, and on the GT it is $24,390, that comes out to 1560 between the Z28 and GT, now that is not a $3,000 difference. Besides look what they put on the reviews since I know all you guys think that GM is so good, Pros, Z28- "Fun, fast." Formula- "Powerful V6, spectacular V8, true muscle-car performance." GT- "Strong V8 power with GT, fun to drive, appealing all-American style, good crash-test scores." Cons, Z28- "Chrysler Concorde front styling, solid rear axle, cheapo interior materials, boy-racer image." Formula- "Boy-racer-in-gold-chains image, cheesy interior plastic, V8 nets sky-high insurance rates, solid rear axle." GT- Solid rear axle, poor stereo ergonomics, flaccid seats. Oh yeah, I also read on the mustang boards that the guys tested the new Mach 1 at the 1/4 mile, with 300hp, doing the 1/4 mile in 13.3. So now tell me ford sucks and don't know what they are doing.
     
  10. Your just another jealous FORD guy who don't know what the hell he/she's talking about. The GT costs less brand new than the Z-28. A Z-28 is about 26,000 brand new. A new GT is around low 20,000's.
    You got things backwards.

    Only 13.3 in 1/4 mile???

    Beleive it or not, but w/ a few minor mods (g-force tires, ZR1 wheels, cold air induction, 2-plate cutch, K+N air filter, and borla exhaust), I ran 12.7.

    BITE ME, *****.

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  11. You're #$%#in stupid I got all those prices from the manufatures web sites, besides I own a 2001 GT and paid 23,500 for it. Maybe you should go check out the sites before you talk any more shit. Oh yeah and it was only a 13.3 but with only a 4.6 and 300hp thats better than a SS 1/4 mile time. All I have to say is Ford is getting better with there cars and pretty soon any Mustang won't have a problem taking out Cameros or T/A. Oh yeah I forgot GM is not making them anymore oh well too bad at least you're old ass formula will be around to get it's ass kicked. One more thing my GT beats the older Z28's and Formula's so I seriously doubt your car runs a 12.7 with that shit, you're probably just one of those little kids that doesn't know shit about cars and times yourself with a stop watch. I could see the newer ones running that time with those mods. You should look at all the facts before you start talking shit to me.
     
  12. Tim,You're giving Ford owners(like me) a bad name
     
  13. You guys need to read up, your own Stang guru piloted a STOCK Z28 to 12.8, and a STOCK SS to 12.7.

    About Chevy V8's: 4.3L, 327, 346, 350, 6.0L, 454, 496, 502.
     
  14. Ok, Ford sells a lot more Mustangs than Chevy sells Camaros, but most of those are automatic/V6 cars sold to rental companies and given to daughters going to school or wives for going to the grocery store. Please forgive the political incorrectness of this comment, but it's a chick car. How many Cobra's do you actually see out there? There are far more Z28/SS cars out there, and although there are a lot of GTs, they cannot touch the power of the LT1, let alone an LS1. The 4.6L is pretty powerful engine, but it cannot touch the explosive acceleration of a chevy small block. A supercharger? Please, if you bolt one on a stock LT1, the power increases to around 440-450. This isn't speculation, I've seen these cars in magazines and online.
    Bottom line, the Camaro is, bang for buck, the better car.
     
  15. I agree, he's an idiot.
     
  16. I jus wanna say that more C.I. dosnt nescessarily mean more torque. Ford has a Diesel truck engine in the Excursion. Its the 6 litr Turbo Diesel. Its got like 345 hp and 525 lb ft. It replaced the aging 7.3 ltr that made 195 hp and 515 lb ft.
     
  17. I dont know what some of you are smoking but I have only lost to ONE SS or WS6 at the track. With a couple boltons i was easly doing 12.9 @109. This is with 310 to the wheels. Also some were saying about torque down low. you only see that band once in a race. Then the Cobra beats ya down with high rev HP that would be 7200 RPM.
     
  18. im still waiting for someone to get back to me about what I said earlier
     
  19. Idiot, look at ANY LS1 dyno. They have 375 horsepower, not the 310 that GM advertises.

    Don't run your mouth like an asshole if you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  20. Geez when will people realize that their engines don't all make their power the same way. And people, the 310 hp rating is Rear wheel horsepower!! Your Cobra makes 320 flywheel (if you're lucky). 310 rwhp is about 365-370 flywheel horsepower. Oh yeah, you should look at the size of the DOHC engine in a Cobra, it's freakin huge. So if you are talking about inefficiency, look at how BIG the engine is. See, these arguments are all useless. Either way Camaro makes bone stock almost as much power as the new 390 hp S/C corbas. Put catback and an intake lid....and there you have your 390 hp in the SS or Ram Air. Then add headers, intake, MAF, computer tuning, bam......420+ horses. Yes I have seen a lot of dyno tests, in person. Anyway, yeah add a pulley to the Cobra and exhaust and you have 450+hp. There's always a faster more powerful car. End of story.
     
  21. yeah ford already made a 350-some cubic inch motor. its called a 351-(insert arbitrary uppercase letter), and it sucked. look, you gotta give gm credit for using a 350 small block variant. you know why ford gave up on its large displacement overhead valve motors? two words: THEY SUCKED. look the ls1 is a far better engine than the 99-(insert arbitrary uppercase letter) 4600 cc engine that ford has. why are you people so much concerned about engines anyways? dont forget that cars also have things called suspensions. its because of this motor fetish that people are glued to the TV when NASCAR comes on, which is by far the worst racing venue i have ever seen. the camaro ss, despite its 325-horse ls1, will still waste the ol' ponycar, anywhere, anytime. the end.
     
  22. Shit dog, Chevy has a 5.3L, 5.7L (350), 6.0L and 8.1L V8. If you go to GM Performance, they have a 383 stroker, 454, 502 and the almighty 572. In the past Chevy had the 283, 327, 350, 396, 400, 409, 427 and 454.

    Yes the Chevy small block has been around for over 50 years but it has been constantly improved over the years. The small block Chevy has often been named one of the best engines in the world. Why get rid of a good thing? The Chevy engines are often under-rated. The last generation F-body's LT1 and LS1 were under-rated and had the same output of the same engines in Corvette. The Corvette has for a long time been rated as having the most power for marketing reasons. Oh and the Camaro SS and Firebird Trans Am WS6 with the LS1 put down 315 RWHP. The displacement is for torque. The '01 Cobra has to rev higher to get its 314 lb-ft of torque, 4750 RPM. On the other hand, the '01 Camaro SS needs to rev to only 4000 RPM to get its 350 lb-ft of torque. Either way the Camaro makes more power and torque. That person who said about needing that torque only one time during a drag race, it is at perhaps the most vital part of the race, the first 60 ft. A car's 60 ft time often shows who the winner will be.

    The Ford SVT Mustang Cobra is a great car and I want one. Its got the look and the power to back them up. However don't be dissing something you don't know anything about.
     

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