Re: Attention: Japanese car tuners!

Discussion in '2001 Honda Integra Type R' started by SoupedUpSupra, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Now aren't we Mr. Arrogant. Too bad you didn't notice that behind all of that sarcasm, its a few of you rednecks making those names trying to make us look bad. And regarding the F&F movie...it was PATHETIC. I left near the end of the movie, when I saw the Supra lining up with the Dodge Charger or whatever. After seeing what I did so far in the movie, I was thinking that the director was actually going to make the Dodge Charger win, and it did.

    And some of you rednecks, talking about how cheap the Camaro, Firebird Trans-am, etc. is so much cheaper than Japanese sports cars, such as the Supra, RX-7, and the Skyline. Know why a Yugo is cheaper than most cars? Exactly, it has an all-plastic interior with roll-up windows. Finally, in this year, the Trans-Am got power windows, a/c, and all of those other goodies standard. Thats usually what most American cars are like these days, plastic, steel, and rubber. Supras are expensive because they are made as luxury sports cars. Skylines are so damn expensive because they have 4WD, and various driving enchancement systems. Did you really think Supras and Skylines were so heavy and pricey for no reason?

    I'm amazed how rednecks are so proud of their little V-8 powered cars. They are so fast these days. If I remember correctly, they were the pioneers of automobiles, and I'm also amazed how Fords haven't changed throughout the decades. I'm even more surprised how Japanese cars can even equal to Americans cars, while Japanese cars haven't had as much experience as the Americans. That's quite pathetic for American cars, I expect them to be a lot better than Japanese and European cars. Of course, Europeans have had nearly as much experience creating cars as Americans, but somehow, their cars far exceed the capabilities of the redneck cars, even those that are low-priced. Funny how a Ford was a Ferrari eater back then, but now, Fords are just Honda eaters. All of my white friends(not that many) are cheap, and whenever they drag race or race on a track they fill up their car with just enough gas to last them for the night, just to take some weight off of their cars. I'll tell you a tale some of you guys might like.

    One night, when my friend was preparing for a drag race, he asked me to "fill up" his 1996 Mustang Cobra. He gave me $10 to get gas for him, and I asked him if he wanted it filled up, and he responded with a quick yes. I looked at him dumbfounded, and I decided that he wanted me to pay him back for the times I asked him for favors when I was younger. So I went to the gas station, waiting in line for god knows how long, and I finally got up to the pumps and I filled it up with premium unleaded. I wasted an extra $30 just to fill up the damned Mustang, and when it was done filling up, I thought about how much the gas tank could hold. When I drove back - I admit, I had fun driving the Mustang - Louie gave me an unsincere thanks. After he got inside and was about to start the engine for some tuning, he noticed that the tank meter was at full, and right at that moment, I saw a side of him that I never saw before. He was cussing so loud, I didn't even know what he was exactly saying. Immediately after that, he gave out a heavy sigh, and he started the car and swiftly backed out onto the street, and he even did a burnout in all of his fury. About 15 minutes later, he came back, and the Mustang's fuel meter was 1/3 full. He later said, "Thanks a lot, man, you know how much time I wasted burning all of that fuel?" and he didn't talk to me until a couple of days later. I left his house without even saying "later". Shows how ungrateful you rednecks are.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Oh yeah, the Viper. I never consider it because I think it's a piece of trash, but I guess it does compete with the NSX. Not to sound too much like a sushi burner, but it would beat the NSX in a straight line but get trashed through the corners, assuming you were racing on a real track like Laguna Seca, not a NASCAR oval or something.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I don't think you have your stats entirely straight. The Viper actually kicks ass in the slalom. Not to mention I see more vipers in the GT circuits than NSX's. The NSX has too much oversteer which could actually post a problem. I'm not ripping on the NSX, but I would have to disagree with you here that's all! As for the Caravan, I love it! I saw that a long time ago and just cracked up! For all you ricers out there what is he talking about? I'll tell you he's saying that yeah you can tune anycar to be fast but big f*cking deal! Since you saw a Caravan run those times are you gonna buy one and invest all your money into it? I hope not! You take a Japanese 4-cylinder whatever you want (Alright I'll let you have the V-TEC) and an American sports car like the Mustang or Camaro, put the same amount of money in it, and the American car would still whipp it's ass! Why? Becuase there's no replacement for displacement! The only replacement would be money and that would be a lot to get your civic to run times with a Camaro or Mustang! And when he says "NAWS!" He's making fun of your asses becuase none of you knew what the hell it was until you saw F&F! You think it's a standard name morons! For anyone who responds negatively to me, here's a picture for you!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Oh yeah, the Viper. I never consider it because I think it's a piece of trash, but I guess it does compete with the NSX. Not to sound too much like a sushi burner, but it would beat the NSX in a straight line but get trashed through the corners, assuming you were racing on a real track like Laguna Seca, not a NASCAR oval or something.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I don't think you have your stats entirely straight. The Viper actually kicks ass in the slalom. Not to mention I see more vipers in the GT circuits than NSX's. The NSX has too much oversteer which could actually post a problem. I'm not ripping on the NSX, but I would have to disagree with you here that's all! As for the Caravan, I love it! I saw that a long time ago and just cracked up! For all you ricers out there what is he talking about? I'll tell you he's saying that yeah you can tune anycar to be fast but big f*cking deal! Since you saw a Caravan run those times are you gonna buy one and invest all your money into it? I hope not! You take a Japanese 4-cylinder whatever you want (Alright I'll let you have the V-TEC) and an American sports car like the Mustang or Camaro, put the same amount of money in it, and the American car would still whipp it's ass! Why? Becuase there's no replacement for displacement! The only replacement would be money and that would be a lot to get your civic to run times with a Camaro or Mustang! And when he says "NAWS!" He's making fun of your asses becuase none of you knew what the hell it was until you saw F&F! You think it's a standard name morons! For anyone who responds negatively to me, here's a picture for you!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->first off, here: -1

    second, the no replacement for displacement philosophy is wrong and ignorant, and ill be glad to argue that if youd like.<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. #4 SeansVette, Aug 9, 2002
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    Attention: Japanese car tuners!

    This is for all the Honda boys who say, "My Honda has nawz and does 12s and will beat your Corvette" or "my friend has 500 horse power with turbo and nawz and can beat any American car" or "yeah your Camaro is faster but I can mod my Civic and beat your Camaro" (I say nawz intead of nitrous oxide because most sushi burners don't like to type nitrous oxide).

    By your logic, the 1989 Dodge Caravan is a badass race car. I mean here's a guy who does 12s and even smokes a Camaro Z28!

    CLICK HERE http://www.turbovan.net/

    As you can see the 89 Caravan is a badass race car, so you should run out and sell your Honda and pick up one of these badass race cars!

    Ah, but "wait" you say. "What if I also add 22 PSI of boost and run 110 Ocatane fuel? My Honda would still beat this thing!"

    Are you getting the idea yet?
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  5. u #$%#in dumass! dodge caravans suck my shit!
     
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    <b>u #$%#in dumass! dodge caravans suck my shit!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Not the one on that site, go check it out.

    It's hilarious.<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. Hey how bout ya say NOS instead of nawz? Where the hell did ya pull that spelling out of???<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Hey how bout ya say NOS instead of nawz? Where the hell did ya pull that spelling out of???</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Nitrous Oxide is the gas used.
    NOS is a brand name of Nitrous Oxide systems.
    Nawz is what many Sushi Burners like to say.
    The quote in your signature is from Fast & Furious, which was one big NOS commercial.
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  9. Nitrous oxide, great for making your car go faster for low amounts of money. Nothing will ever beat real tuning though, a car with a carb is unheard of today.
    Oh and would any of you jap tuners like to take a shot at explaining how the V-tec works in your honda, Im curious to see what you think happens in the head of that motor.
     
  10. lol, Sean; this thread is awesome. Look at 'em squirming! I especially liked, "caravans suck my shit." I see your point, but no one will ever convince me that real American sports cars are better than real Japanese sports cars. I consider real Japanese sports to be the NSX, the Skyline, the Evo VII, and the WRX STi. The RSX (Integra), Civic-R, Tiburon (lol), MR2, and even the S2000 are all just toys. They're not meant for serious racing, so they don't count. Cars like the Supra, the RX-7, and the 300ZX are nice, but they're dead, so who cares?

    The problem is that it's hard to objectively compare these cars to the Corvette, the Camaro, and the Mustang because they are totally diferent. The Skyline, Evo, and WRX are all 5-passenger cars, and some of them have 4 doors! The NSX is an exotic that was designed to go up against the F355, so the only American car that comes close is the Corvette, which, in its newest iteration, absolutely demolishes the competition. So that's the exception, I guess.

    Oh yeah, the Viper. I never consider it because I think it's a piece of trash, but I guess it does compete with the NSX. Not to sound too much like a sushi burner, but it would beat the NSX in a straight line but get trashed through the corners, assuming you were racing on a real track like Laguna Seca, not a NASCAR oval or something.<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. That's Crzy

    That it is totally cool a guy tuning his Caravan to run 12s I am totally impressed. I live in Toronto and I am tired of seeing tricked out civics and integras I got no complains but alot of ppl already have them but the caravan is something (mad props 4 that dude)
     
  12. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Gtlssrdr</i>
    <b>Nitrous oxide, great for making your car go faster for low amounts of money. Nothing will ever beat real tuning though, a car with a carb is unheard of today.
    Oh and would any of you jap tuners like to take a shot at explaining how the V-tec works in your honda, Im curious to see what you think happens in the head of that motor. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->you explain first, and then ILL tell you if youre right.<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. VTEC,which stands for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control, is an electronic and mechanical system in some Honda engines that allows the engine to effectively have multiple camshafts. As the engine moves into different RPM ranges, the engine's computer can activate alternate lobes on the camshaft and change the cam's timing. In this way the engine gets the best features of low-speed and high-speed camshafts in the same engine.
     
  14. not to be a dick or anything but please clairify your theory of the replacement for displacement? thanx
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  15. Hey Buzzbomber in a way the theory is right. I mean like I said before the only way for a small engine like a 4cylinder to make up for the torque and horsepower is to add more money. That is what I think is the only replacement, however if you think about it, if you add the same type of mods to a v8 as did with a 4-cylinder the V8 will have more power still. I understand what you mean by saying it's wrong but I don't necessarily would say it's ignorant becuase there's some truth behind it.<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. no replacement for technology my good men. see here:

    point 1) an old mercedes auto (the sporting model) had something like an 8 litre V12. remember this is in the 1920's. the thing had a whopping 26 hp and got to 60mph in 28 seconds (something to that effect). nowadays, if you had a 8 litre V12, would it not perform a little better than this? id think so, and it is because of technology.

    point 2) look at formula one racing. out of a 3.0 litre V10, a car propels itself to 150mph in 6 seconds. the quarter mile comes in 9 seconds flat. it revs high, and only has about 240 lb-ft of torque. however, it does have 800+ hp. it also achieves a 1.09g on the skidpad. this should be the model of all cars, in my opinion. high revving, lightweight. by comparison to nascar, F1 is like a falcon to a turtle. there IS no comparison.


    the no replacment for displacement theory is well founded, but has some flaws. i agree with it if you want lots of torque. but the only reason id want lots of torque is if i had a truck. if you supercharge a 350ci chevy, youll get a lot more power than if you supercharged a 1.6 litre honda, but the fact of the matter is, a better performing track, and maybe even road, car will be of smaller displacment. examples: RX-7, NSX, Integra, F1, etc.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. Another good point by bozzbomber. But my point is this...with my theory in mind I'm talking about money. Sure you can get those small engines to get good power and torque, but it'll cost a pretty penny. Like I said in the other forum you quoted me on, "It'll cost ya your house mortgage to get a civic to beat a viper" Now of course I was being sarcastic so I hope you didn't take me literally. However that would be stupid, plus a waste of money. Sounds like a good project but all those mods to put on the civic, put the same type of mods, "OF course integrated with the right model" and the car with the V8 such as an F-Body would tear it apart! The higher displacement starts off higher with more power becuase it can take the stress better than a 4-cylinder. Of course you can get a 4-cylinder to meet that type of power, but it'll probably peek out before the V8 will.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Another good point by bozzbomber. But my point is this...with my theory in mind I'm talking about money. Sure you can get those small engines to get good power and torque, but it'll cost a pretty penny. Like I said in the other forum you quoted me on, "It'll cost ya your house mortgage to get a civic to beat a viper" Now of course I was being sarcastic so I hope you didn't take me literally. However that would be stupid, plus a waste of money. Sounds like a good project but all those mods to put on the civic, put the same type of mods, "OF course integrated with the right model" and the car with the V8 such as an F-Body would tear it apart! The higher displacement starts off higher with more power becuase it can take the stress better than a 4-cylinder. Of course you can get a 4-cylinder to meet that type of power, but it'll probably peek out before the V8 will.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->no of course i didnt take you seriously. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> yes i understand what you mean by money. and thats a very important aspect to most people in the world, and i agree with you. its much easier to put a 350 in the 10's than a honda. no doubt at all.<!-- Signature -->
     
  19. do yall have any idea how this ricer craze started in America
     
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    <b>do yall have any idea how this ricer craze started in America</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Really it is no different than the customizing craze in the 50's where people would take a 39 Ford (or other similar car) and chop the top, cover it in velvet and cram a huge engine in it. There really is no difference.<!-- Signature -->
     
  21. The way I see it, who cares what you have to do to tune your car. If your car, import or domestic, is capable of running good et's. handles well on a track, and smokes cars out on the streets, then it's respectable. Whether it be a good ol' American muscle with huge displacement, or a modern day import with a big azz turbo. I could care less. A win is a win, no matter how it was done. Even if it meant NOS also.
     

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