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Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra' started by JESTERFIELD, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Cobra R didnt have a supercharger and I was not talking about the Cobra R not competing with the Corvette I am talking about your regular Cobra. It was not made to compete with the Corvette if it was then it would weigh less and have a larger engine. The added weight of the 03 Cobra is in the Cast-Iron block used. <!-- Signature -->
     
  2. took the words right out of my hands.
     
  3. I think six bangers are good for racing.
    It gives your engine higher revs.
    A 4-banger is more heavy duty, though.<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. Re: not good enough

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Cobra Man</i>
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    <b>The "Stripped" Mustang Cobra R was only .2 of a second faster than the 2002 Firehawk on the 1/4 Mile . . .

    Thus, I can honestly say that the Naturally Aspired Firehawk will blow this POS away!

    No Contest!

    If you Supercharge a Firehawk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I dont even want to say what would HAPPEND!!

    Just Imagine when the 2004 Firehawk is reborn!! and the 2004 SLP Camaro SS and dont even imagine about the 2004 Z06!!!

    Have a nice #$%#en day<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->LOL..... You POS!!!!!!! Face it the Fire hawk as cool as it is. Is gone and the 03 cobra will still kick ass with any stock Firebird or Camaro. (So stop bitchen)</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    Yeah maybe a stock Camaro or Firebird but not a SS or WS6. I don't care what any of you say about SVT of how they rebuild the Mustang right there in the same factory. The point is they are modding a 4.6 V8 they didn't design, create or build themselves. They modified a 4.6 V8 Mustang therefore damn Cobra is a modified Mustang. Just like the SS and WS6. So yeah I would hope this thing would beat a "Stock" Camaro and Firebird. <!-- Signature -->
     
  5. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from atlkid123</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KaNe</i>
    <b>The "Stripped" Mustang Cobra R was only .2 of a second faster than the 2002 Firehawk on the 1/4 Mile . . .

    Thus, I can honestly say that the Naturally Aspired Firehawk will blow this POS away!

    No Contest!

    If you Supercharge a Firehawk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I dont even want to say what would HAPPEND!!

    Just Imagine when the 2004 Firehawk is reborn!! and the 2004 SLP Camaro SS and dont even imagine about the 2004 Z06!!!

    Have a nice #$%#en day<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    and your an idiot
    fire hawks arent that great buddy and no has ever stripped a cobra r completely and just wait for the 04 Cobra R's I believe its safe to say that your damn firehawk is gonna be blown away as well as your z06 and sorry to burst your bubble there arent gonna be any 04 camaros and firebird or firehawks or trans ams or w/e why because they are being discontinued</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    U dumb a*s! There no being discontinued. Just there body styles are going away. They are coming back in between the years of 2004-2006.

    Oh and have u guys heard of the ZO7 thats coming out soon.0-60 time in 3.4

    All u Ford and Viper lovers be afraid very afraid!!!!!!<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from C5 R Vette</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from atlkid123</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KaNe</i>
    <b>The "Stripped" Mustang Cobra R was only .2 of a second faster than the 2002 Firehawk on the 1/4 Mile . . .

    Thus, I can honestly say that the Naturally Aspired Firehawk will blow this POS away!

    No Contest!

    If you Supercharge a Firehawk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I dont even want to say what would HAPPEND!!

    Just Imagine when the 2004 Firehawk is reborn!! and the 2004 SLP Camaro SS and dont even imagine about the 2004 Z06!!!

    Have a nice #$%#en day<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    and your an idiot
    fire hawks arent that great buddy and no has ever stripped a cobra r completely and just wait for the 04 Cobra R's I believe its safe to say that your damn firehawk is gonna be blown away as well as your z06 and sorry to burst your bubble there arent gonna be any 04 camaros and firebird or firehawks or trans ams or w/e why because they are being discontinued</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    U dumb a*s! There no being discontinued. Just there body styles are going away. They are coming back in between the years of 2004-2006.

    Oh and have u guys heard of the ZO7 thats coming out soon.0-60 time in 3.4

    All u Ford and Viper lovers be afraid very afraid!!!!!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Where the hell do you get all this information from??? Unless you have credible sources to back up your information, all we can do is classify your claims as hearsay. This especially holds true for the return of the Firebird/Camaro. All you GM boys keep saying they are coming back, but I haven't seen ONE PIECE OF FACTUAL EVIDENCE that suggests they will ever come back, let alone in a year or two. Until you have evidence to back up your rediculous claims, just keep your mouths shut.<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. man if u supercharge a 350 its gonna have more power i grant u that. but u gotta realize it over a liter bigger and has been around for a while giving gm owners and performance part companies time to perfect them. the modular 4.6 is a fairly new motor which i believe has come a long way since 96' and has great potential to go further. also when your camaros and firebirds come back out in a few years dont even think that there still gonna carry the 5.7.. more than likely its gonna be the 5.3 becaused all the car companies are being forced to reduce the emissions on there heavy polluters i.e. ford 302(reborn as 4.6L 281) and the gm 350. and i believe that when they come out in 04' or 05' there are gonna be some imperfection with the motor for a few years till they can work out all the kinks, so i wouldnt get so cocky about your future camaros and firehawks, if anything you should be nervous about getting your ass kicked
     
  8. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KaNe</i>
    <b>Hell the 2002 Base Corvette will still beat the crap outta the "supercharged" '03 Cobra. If anyone disagrees on this one, then i can honestly say that you are an idiot.

    the Corvette is nearly 600 pounds lighter and its 40 HP less. It will murder this POS in a straight line but in a track . . . . it will literally whipe its ass with it!!

    The Base Corvette will beat the Firehawk. The Firehawk murders the '03 Cobra. Thus,the Corvette will eat the cobra, crap it out and throw it in the ocean then gets the water from the ocean then evaporates it. Puts the evaporated water in a glass jar blasts it out to space and blows it off in a nuclear bomb!

    What im trying to say is that the Corvette will outrun the cobra by ALOT!!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->What im trying to say is QUIT comparing The Vette to the Cobra maaaan they are two different classes! Corvette Vs. Viper, Mustang Vs. Camaro (has been) We don't care that your "Sports Car" will beat a car in another category. Did you ever see them racing Corvettes against Dusters, Chargers, Roadrunners, or Cudas in the 70s???? Noooo because they are in a different class. Quit comparing Cadilacs to a Taurus and get on with your pathetic lives. Might as well be saying my 6'7 250 lb brother can whip your 5'6 110 lb brother!!! Duuuh who cares pick on someone your own size.<!-- Signature -->
     
  9. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from hookdup</i>
    <b>man if u supercharge a 350 its gonna have more power i grant u that. but u gotta realize it over a liter bigger and has been around for a while giving gm owners and performance part companies time to perfect them. the modular 4.6 is a fairly new motor which i believe has come a long way since 96' and has great potential to go further. also when your camaros and firebirds come back out in a few years dont even think that there still gonna carry the 5.7.. more than likely its gonna be the 5.3 becaused all the car companies are being forced to reduce the emissions on there heavy polluters i.e. ford 302(reborn as 4.6L 281) and the gm 350. and i believe that when they come out in 04' or 05' there are gonna be some imperfection with the motor for a few years till they can work out all the kinks, so i wouldnt get so cocky about your future camaros and firehawks, if anything you should be nervous about getting your ass kicked</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->they don't use the 350 either. Its the 346 LS1, whcih is a relatively new unit also. <!-- Signature -->
     
  10. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KaNe</i>
    <b>The "Stripped" Mustang Cobra R was only .2 of a second faster than the 2002 Firehawk on the 1/4 Mile . . .

    Thus, I can honestly say that the Naturally Aspired Firehawk will blow this POS away!

    No Contest!

    If you Supercharge a Firehawk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I dont even want to say what would HAPPEND!!

    Just Imagine when the 2004 Firehawk is reborn!! and the 2004 SLP Camaro SS and dont even imagine about the 2004 Z06!!!

    Have a nice #$%#en day<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    and your an idiot
    fire hawks arent that great buddy and no has ever stripped a cobra r completely and just wait for the 04 Cobra R's I believe its safe to say that your damn firehawk is gonna be blown away as well as your z06 and sorry to burst your bubble there arent gonna be any 04 camaros and firebird or firehawks or trans ams or w/e why because they are being discontinued
     
  11. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from zamac_man</i>
    <b>Your are so smart the firehawk would blow it away and the 04 z06 will blow away the 04 cobra r. If the camaro, firebird doesnt come back in 04 it wont be long after</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Why would they discontinue a car in 02 and in 04 bring them back?? Or even in 05 or 06??? Just wait until the 40th anniversary you can bet that the Cobra, and Cobra R are gonna be awesome machines putting up awesome numbers. Oh and GM hasnt put a supercharger on a firehawk and never will so dont be coming in here sayin what ifs when there will never be such a thing. <!-- Signature -->
     
  12. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KaNe</i>
    <b>Hell the 2002 Base Corvette will still beat the crap outta the "supercharged" '03 Cobra. If anyone disagrees on this one, then i can honestly say that you are an idiot.

    the Corvette is nearly 600 pounds lighter and its 40 HP less. It will murder this POS in a straight line but in a track . . . . it will literally whipe its ass with it!!

    The Base Corvette will beat the Firehawk. The Firehawk murders the '03 Cobra. Thus,the Corvette will eat the cobra, crap it out and throw it in the ocean then gets the water from the ocean then evaporates it. Puts the evaporated water in a glass jar blasts it out to space and blows it off in a nuclear bomb!

    What im trying to say is that the Corvette will outrun the cobra by ALOT!!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->ohh and another thing! If If Mustangs were going to compete and be in the same class as Corvettes then they would lower the weight of the Mustangs, and raise the power by putting a larger engine in it. We all know good and well that if Ford wanted to put a 5.4L engine in the Mustangs and if they wanted to lower the weight they could do it, but they arent! <!-- Signature -->
     
  13. ok guys the original poster is an idiot , and so is the guy who said GM will not build an 04 Firebird and Camaro. They're not bringing these cars back in 2004, but in 2005 as a special commetartive edition to the 1969 Camaro Z28. The car will not have a 350, but a 305 just as the original Z28 did. so there almost all of you are idiots and look whos salty now.<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. PONTIAC SUCKS, theres not other way to put it all there cars are gay and ugly.
     
  15. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JESTERFIELD</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from zamac_man</i>
    <b>Your are so smart the firehawk would blow it away and the 04 z06 will blow away the 04 cobra r. If the camaro, firebird doesnt come back in 04 it wont be long after</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Why would they discontinue a car in 02 and in 04 bring them back?? Or even in 05 or 06??? Just wait until the 40th anniversary you can bet that the Cobra, and Cobra R are gonna be awesome machines putting up awesome numbers. Oh and GM hasnt put a supercharger on a firehawk and never will so dont be coming in here sayin what ifs when there will never be such a thing. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Ford did it with the Thunderbird, so why are you pissing on Chevy fordoing the same thing? Double standard? I think so
     
  16. HEY jESTERFIELD! R u saying that ford didnt try to create a mustang that was in the same class as the Corvette? Well what was a Cobra R? Ford stripped out all the internals, (the radio, the air conditioners) and gave it a supercharger. A 2000 Cobra R has 385 horsepower and is as light as a mutang can get. But it still lost 2 a 2001 Z06. The Cobra R was $56000 while the Z06 costed $50,000. But as far ass F-body vs mustangs, i just wanted 2 know? where does all the weight in the mustang come from? How can it weigh more than a Z28??>>??
    Damn Ford.......
    I used 2 love you
     
  17. true the 03 stang is disappointingly heavy, but the quoted weight of 1662kg is for the convertible, the hardtop will be lighter, but probs still about 1600.

    this car will have performance very similar to a stock C5, will beat a Z28/Firebird, but will be thrashed by a Z06, as for the next generations of cars....what engine will the entry level C6 run?...a tuned SSR pickup truck engine?

    no doubt the new Cobra R will run the GT40 concept engine...finally a return to the american muscle car wars of the 70s

    gotta say my moneys on Chevy
     
  18. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BrianT</i>
    <b>HEY jESTERFIELD! R u saying that ford didnt try to create a mustang that was in the same class as the Corvette? Well what was a Cobra R? Ford stripped out all the internals, (the radio, the air conditioners) and gave it a supercharger. A 2000 Cobra R has 385 horsepower and is as light as a mutang can get. But it still lost 2 a 2001 Z06. The Cobra R was $56000 while the Z06 costed $50,000. But as far ass F-body vs mustangs, i just wanted 2 know? where does all the weight in the mustang come from? How can it weigh more than a Z28??>>??
    Damn Ford.......
    I used 2 love you</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Cobra R never had a super charger dip shit.
     
  19. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KaNe</i>
    <b>The "Stripped" Mustang Cobra R was only .2 of a second faster than the 2002 Firehawk on the 1/4 Mile . . .

    Thus, I can honestly say that the Naturally Aspired Firehawk will blow this POS away!

    No Contest!

    If you Supercharge a Firehawk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I dont even want to say what would HAPPEND!!

    Just Imagine when the 2004 Firehawk is reborn!! and the 2004 SLP Camaro SS and dont even imagine about the 2004 Z06!!!

    Have a nice #$%#en day<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Gee, don't we sound intelligent? I do not know where you got that stat, but the new Cobra will easily beat a Firebird in a drag race as well as around a track, and the Cobra R will beat it as well. Just do the math.<!-- Signature -->
     
  20. I've said it now too many times, but I'll say it again: Ford needs a Corvette. The Cobra R is a kewl car, but it just is not a Z06 equivalent. Ok, so the numbers are similar, but there's more to sports cars than numbers (although many would argue otherwise). The Cobra R is a race car that for some reason was allowed on the roads. A Z06 is a daily driver with a radio, comfortable seats, 6 mufflers (i.e. quiet), get 18/29 mpg, and just happens to have 385 hp (405 now). If you had to spend 14 hours making a road trip in one of these cars (assuming their performance difference is indistinquishable), what would you choose? Just food for thought when purchasing your next car.<!-- Signature -->
     
  21. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from CobraRBestCar</i>
    <b>PONTIAC SUCKS, theres not other way to put it all there cars are gay and ugly.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Gay and ugly??? I guess thats why the pace car of this years Daytona 500 was a Trans Am WS6 Ram Air. Yeah, they picked it because it's gay and ugly. You can't honestly tell me that you wouldn't love to drive a Ram Air or a Firehawk. If you love to look good, drive fast, and have fun, these are some of the best cars to do it in.
     
  22. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Air</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from CobraRBestCar</i>
    <b>PONTIAC SUCKS, theres not other way to put it all there cars are gay and ugly.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Gay and ugly??? I guess thats why the pace car of this years Daytona 500 was a Trans Am WS6 Ram Air. Yeah, they picked it because it's gay and ugly. You can't honestly tell me that you wouldn't love to drive a Ram Air or a Firehawk. If you love to look good, drive fast, and have fun, these are some of the best cars to do it in.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    They picked it because Pontiac (GM) put up the cash for them to!!<!-- Signature -->
     
  23. I saw a ram air trans am on the street and let's just say it's a good thing I had a bag in my pocket.
     
  24. The 03 Cobra is awsome. Mustang fans have been bitchin about a 6 speed, functional air scoops, and more power since the birth of the LS1. Now we have it. It has always been Camaro vs Mustang; but to mention the 'stang in the same class as a C5 (NOT a Z06!) is a big step for Ford. This 'stang will run 12 sec E.T.'s where a '01 Z06 pulls 12.8 & 12.7's; not in the same class??? The C5's are a bit lighter but have less power (35 less than an 01 Z06) which makes for a damn good race.

    Notice I didn't mention the Firehawk....or WS6....ask any SS or Firehawk owner how they do against C5's or Z06's. A 01 WS6 pulled 13.6 & 13.5 @ 103mph at the track last week, STOCK. Don't even say that a Firehawk w/ SLP exhaust and lid would beat the 03 Cobra b/c you are just WRONG!!!

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  25. #25 84FordMan, Aug 9, 2002
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    Even though I have always been a big fan of the Firebird, especially once it moved into it's current bodystyle, the Cobra is outside Firehawk's class. If you want to know who's in who's class, go to Edmunds.com, it will automatically pick cars in it's own class:

    http://applications.edmunds.com/products/vc/VehicleComparison?year=2002&make=Pontiac&model=Firebird&trim=Trans+Am+2dr+Hatchback+%285.7L+8cyl+4A%29&midyear=1&checkbox1=2002%3BChevrolet%3BCamaro%3BZ28+2dr+Hatchback+%285.7L+8cyl+4A%29%3B1&checkbox2=2002%3BFord%3BMustang%3BGT+Premium+2dr+Coupe+%284.6L+8cyl+5M%29%3B1&fullcompare=See+Full+Comparison

    For the Firebird, it picked Mustang GT Premium and Camaro Z28. Notice that it's not the Mustang Cobra or Camaro SS.<!-- Signature -->
     

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