Re: camaro ZL1 could beat its ass

Discussion in '1999 Blitz Skyline GT-R R348' started by Will938, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. 1. The 350 (while still a pushrod V-8) had its configuration changed.

    2. "There is no way in hell that a domestic can beat a beauty like this. Inline 6 baby, it rules over all. " Someone did say that, and yes I agree that pussy is the best. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

    3. Yes it is AWD, not one person here worked out that one. Every single person that commented on that said it was RWD.

    4. I never said pump, I said it was capable.

    5. Go check the stats on the Bel Air, NA street legal. No NOS.

    4. '88 Vs. ??? '00/'01?

    5. VTEC is a bad thing, WTSHTF and something blows how are you gonna fix that? Tell ya what, take the difference between VTEC and non-VTEC in price and performance #'s. Then put that into worthwhile performance options and see how much of a difference that is.

    6. Ok, it ran 260, so what record does it hold?

    CORNERHO - I never said I hated imports. Infact I own a couple. What lie did I make, and what are these magazines sites with the superfast times?
     
  2. Will938
    I hope you aren't talking about us, cause you aren't showing me any more "real life" stats either.

    1. How exactly did Chevy change the 350? You mean when they finally converted it to fuel injection from carburation? Still a pushrod V8 buddy!

    2. I don't believe anyone said the inline 6 was the greatest thing out there. Pussy on the other hand is.

    3. The ZL1 is AWD? Big deal, so is the Skyline.

    4. The 350 is not capable of 1200HP NA on pump gas, stop lying.

    5. 55 Bel Air with what, a 500 cu.in motor with a 1000hp shot of NOS?

    6. In 88 Callaway did make a 880hp Twin Turbo engine which passes emissions, but Skylines make over 1000 emission legal hp.

    7. Since when were things like VTEC and variable valve timing a bad thing. Oh yeah, it's bad because the Americans can't do it right.

    8. The JUN 300ZX made a high speed run of 260 some odd mph at the Salt Flats.<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. "will396....you failed your history test.i'm trying to tell all these foriegn car haters to atleast do some research b-4 you just react when you can't believe what you see. why lie?"

    I don't know if I'm reading that right, but it seemed to say I was lying.

    Meah, I never really invested too much in brakes. Well when I talk about the real street factor I just like to think in the price difference between import and domestic. I like domestics because it's cheap, usually easy to work with, and powerful. I like my imports because they're a little more nimble.
     
  4. I have been brought up around American cars all my life, and I think that most suck. I have a 460 C.I. bored out .006 of an inch in my pick up, It will run at 150 miles per hour all day, every day. But my 2.0 Liter Honda with a compression ratio of 10:1 and gets 35 MPG runs at 160 MPH without anything but the raised compression. Pretty good for a car with 280,000 miles on it isn't it. The 460 was rebuilt last month and it will get its ass kicked by my honda any day.
     
  5. HAHA... The day a stupid american car would b able to beat a japanese car like the GTR is the day i will stop driving my BWM!!!! There's no way in this world that an american car like the camero could beat a well made jap car. What Japanese car makers do is take an American car, improve on it every way possible, and then just release it!
     
  6. I saw that firebird you were talking about it was tuned by lingenfelter or callaway and went nearly 300 mph in a stock body, that would be scary.
     
  7. oh, who gives a shitt, both the camaro zl1 and this skyline can beat the cars that we drive. so everybody just shut up!
     
  8. Its like this, the ZL1 wins in acceleration and top speed.. the Skyline will win on the track..oh yeah and that 55 Chevy<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> awesome car..and if you want to say that american cars only go straight? talk to anyone that owns or has driven a Z06 Corvette..Wait, didn't the 88 Callaway have turbos? and passed emissions? and pulled something like .94 on the skid pad? I think thats pretty impressive... oh ya, and the 800TT Viper, pulled 1.02 or something like that on the skidpad, and 0-60 in 2.4 in the rain..230mph top speed..But this IS a nice car nomatter what anybody says..<!-- Signature -->
     
  9. Im tired of all this....... Buick GNX will KILL a stock skyline, plus the fact that skyline sucks makes skyline look even worse than it is!


    skyline vs z06 in(speed and accelaration and handling) = Zo6 KILLS
    Buick GNX vs stock skyline= Buick RIPS apart skyline in speed and handles almost as well and has the body of a luxury car!
    Cobra Top speed vs skyline top speed= Skyline loses again!

    Highly modified skyline vs Corvette Lingenfelter= Corvette Mutilating and Brutally beating it in speed and accelaration, (I dont know about handling , because cars with that much power cant really handle well, even If they are something like a porsche or cars made for handling!)

    But im sure Corvette will still handle better, because Zo6 handled better than a reg skyline r33 and r34

    Bottom Line AMERICAN CARS RULE AND WHOOP SKYLINES @SS!!!! and for that matter v8s RULE!!!!
     
  10. HEy whats a Buick GNX?
    Your worst Nightmare!!!

    Camaro ZL1 What a Beauty!!!!....get the ZL1 and run it against the Blitz Skyline!

     
  11. PLEASE MAN THE ZL1 SUCKS! IT WOULD LOSE TO A BLITZ! BECAUSE IT CAN TURN BETTER THAN THE CAMARO! PLUS IT BEATS IT ON THE TRACK AS WELL AS OFF ROADING! THE DIABLO T50 WOULD RUN LAPS ON THE ZL1!
     
  12. Maybe this camro could beat a Blitz Skyline but there is no way it can touch GTR 700. For those of you who dont know this car has over 1500 WHP out of the RB26DETT engine a 2.6 liter engine. Not only does the GTR 700 run 8.2 seconds in the 1/4 mile, but it is also the third fastest AWD car in the world. Yeah nowe you are thinking, so what the camaro is street legal where the skyline is a dedicated drag car. Actually the GTR 700 is street legal (in Australia) but it is no longer street driven due to the choice of the owner. The owner of the GTR 700 doesnt even drive his skyline anymore because it scares the crap out of him. The argument that a V8 could make the same power for less money is true but a car that comes with the V8 costs much more to but originally.
     
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    Mate you are on drugs, if nissan built a huge shit heap motor like the Chev it would waste those figures it would probably fly, i've said it before and i'll say it again american cars are total shit heaps. If Chev had a 2.6Litre 6 to work with they'd most likely #$%# it up and produce less horse power than a daewoo. Then they'd cry about their small cocks and realise that they cant make cars and that would (hopefully) be the end of american cars all together. Just look at the GT90 they wanted to challenge MclarenF1 they needed 4 #$%#ing turbos, c'mon and it still did'nt do #$%# all Mclarens fart gay yankee cars like that in fact so do all other car makers even Kia. So #$%# off.
     
  14. ZL1 would kill
     
  15. Diablo T50 would own both.
     
  16. good call
     
  17. Yeah, I know, I'm still a "new member," but here you are callin' out an experienced car expert and a poster on this site for quite a long time. Goddamnit! He has 1290 times the amount of posts you have! 1290! Not only that, but you've even gone so far as to attack him personally, refusing to simply refute the opinion of your superior. Did you even read his post? Or are you just blindly defending your favorite car without considering his valid points. I've read his posts for a long time, and you can trust me when I say that he's one of the most honest and informative members on this forum. Where's the respect?

    Anyway, back to the forum. This question is relatively simple to answer. The skyline and the camaro are very different cars. The skyline is a light, agile, 4WD, low displacement tubo tuner from Japan, intended for time attacks and road courses (although they do make great drag cars if properly tuned). The camaro, on the other hand, is a big, heavy RWD drag racing sledgehammer with a big V8 and lots of American muscle. Both cars have the capability to dominate their respective areas of motorsports, but a camaro will never beat a skyline on a good road course such as Tsukuba, Suzuka, or the 'ring. Also, the camaro will usually beat a skyline at the dragstirp if both are tuned to their maximum potential. It is a matter of opinion and personal preference.
     
  18. First off you saying iron block pieces of junk is the most ill informed shit I've ever heard because hhhmmmmm let me see I think an Evo runs an iron block and on top of that I think the Supra runs an iron block hint:that's why these cars are able to take massive amounts of boost and yeah an american V8 engine turbo'd can pass emissions just use an engine out of the 50's (Grandfather clause) it is emissions exempt because it's so old so don't diss American engines because they're iron blocks because that's the reason alot of engines are so strong no matter where they're from
     
  19. First off you saying iron block pieces of junk is the most ill informed shit I've ever heard because hhhmmmmm let me see I think an Evo runs an iron block and on top of that I think the Supra runs an iron block hint:that's why these cars are able to take massive amounts of boost and yeah an american V8 engine turbo'd can pass emissions just use an engine out of the 50's (Grandfather clause) it is emissions exempt because it's so old so don't diss American engines because they're iron blocks because that's the reason alot of engines are so strong no matter where they're from
     
  20. Shutup shutup shutup!!!! Im tired of listening to how these amazing Japanesse cars out perform American and European cars. accordsirf: V8s will pass emissions with turbo chargers, aftermarket companies (credible ones) have there products certified to be street legal (they pass emissions) There are current Corvettes and Viper in production that come turbocharged from their factories. oh yeah between these tuned cars one runs 9s the other 8s. OFF THE FLOOR!! And what were you saying something about the ZR1 not being in production? I belive this forum is under a skyline thats not in production either, isnt it? American cars dont generally use turbos, they use superchargers, they give you low end power instead of focusing just on the peak end of the powerband. Superchargers pull through all gears at all rpms in all speed, turbos lag, and then they slowly pick up more and then they pull hard. And how dare you say that American engines are too weak to be turbo charged. Do you know that for strip purposes HEMIs are the only engines strong enough to run certain alcohol fuels without destroying themselves. Hemi engines are the strongest street engines ever built.

    And for American cars not being able to perform with the rest of the world. I found this car searching through the supercars.net's top accelerating cars. This was the first Japenese car... number 18. Spot one - held by a viper. I scrolled through about 7 cars built in the united states and the rest were from several different European countries. Country for country the United States is the best in this catagory (none of the Europe being the lable for every car made in one of its countries that produces top performance cars.) As far as top speed and acceleration go America will always be on top or occasionally passed by ...yes a "European" can. Never by a production Jap car. As far as handling goes Japan will never pass Europe so you dont have that either. Oh yeah - number on handling car in the world is American too: Saleen S7 and the Twin Turbo modle is even faster. Wait... whats that... more proof that American engines cant withstand the power of turbos and cant pass smog with them? Big block V8s will always be more powerful than these inline 6 Jap cars without using NOS or forced induction.
     
  21. #46 supra for life, Jun 4, 2006
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    There are current Corvettes and Viper in production that come turbocharged from their factories (Their factories??? U mean like lingenfelter and Venom hennesy? well those are aftermarkets)

    Hemi engines are the strongest street engines ever built(Well engines like RB26(Skyline GTR R34) or 2JZ GTE (Supra rz) can be tuned to 900 hp without any internal modifications)

    I found this car searching through the supercars.net's top accelerating cars. This was the first Japenese car... number 18. Spot one - held by a viper(If u wanna see top accelerating skylines check here www.exvitermini.com)

    Big block V8s will always be more powerful than these inline 6 Jap cars without using NOS or forced induction.(Well it might be more POWERFUL
    but not faster)
     
  22. #47 supra for life, Jun 4, 2006
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    There are current Corvettes and Viper in production that come turbocharged from their factories (Their factories??? U mean like lingenfelter and Venom hennesy? well those are aftermarkets)

    Hemi engines are the strongest street engines ever built(Well engines like RB26(Skyline GTR R34) or 2JZ GTE (Supra rz) can be tuned to 900 hp without any internal modifications)

    I found this car searching through the supercars.net's top accelerating cars. This was the first Japenese car... number 18. Spot one - held by a viper(If u wanna see top accelerating skylines check here www.exvitermini.com)

    Big block V8s will always be more powerful than these inline 6 Jap cars without using NOS or forced induction.(Well it might be more POWERFUL
    but not faster)
     
  23. #48 supra for life, Jun 4, 2006
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 25, 2016
    There are current Corvettes and Viper in production that come turbocharged from their factories (Their factories??? U mean like lingenfelter and Venom hennesy? well those are aftermarkets)

    Hemi engines are the strongest street engines ever built(Well engines like RB26(Skyline GTR R34) or 2JZ GTE (Supra rz) can be tuned to 900 hp without any internal modifications)

    I found this car searching through the supercars.net's top accelerating cars. This was the first Japenese car... number 18. Spot one - held by a viper(If u wanna see top accelerating skylines check here www.exvitermini.com)

    Big block V8s will always be more powerful than these inline 6 Jap cars without using NOS or forced induction.(Well it might be more POWERFUL
    but not faster)
     
  24. #50 gtrowns, Oct 2, 2006
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    have a look at this video , this video is a supercar race with

    MINES Skyline R34 GTR vs. Formula 3000 vs. JGTC GT300 Porsche GT3 vs. Ferrari F40 vs. JGTC GT500 ARTA NSX @ Tsukuba



    the mines skyline rapes all except the formula 3000.oo and the car that over takes the skyline is the JGTC GT300 ( honda NSX)
    lets make new thread "JGTC GT300 could beat Camaro zl1's ass"

    also hav a look at this http://www.skylinesdownunder.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=54&Itemid=66

    info on the most well knwn modifiers. jun,hks,veil etc.

    and even if the camaro is faster then ne jap or euro car ,why the hell would u buyy it -_- ,its just a piece of american trash ,im not taking sides either cause im from australia.
     

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