Re: Corvette VS NSX

Discussion in '2003 Chevrolet Corvette 50th Anniversary' started by Gamer55, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from WAY2FAST4YOU</i>
    <b>oh god, guibo are you trying to scare me? Give me a break! like i said, i take vettes with pure CONSISTENCY, now im not gonna bull sh!t you guys about beating z-06 because they do waist me, BUT i am more than capable of hanging in there.


    You want a car that puts up great numbers, put 20 grand into a civic, you want a real sports car, you buy an NSX</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    No, I'm not trying to scare you.
    I can set something up with some of the guys from the corvetteforums.com or C5 Registry, if you'd like. No Z06's, then.
     
  2. Will 938, an 11.5 on a stock LS1 Camaro? I don't think so. Maybe with a tail wind, down hill. The Camaro is fast, but low 13's fast, not mid 11's fast. Thats a whole additional world of fast.<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from sparetire</i>
    <b>Will 938, an 11.5 on a stock LS1 Camaro? I don't think so. Maybe with a tail wind, down hill. The Camaro is fast, but low 13's fast, not mid 11's fast. Thats a whole additional world of fast.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You are right, and wrong. I believe that Camaros can get into the mid 12's for free (not stock) if you are a bad ass driver and come with one of the occasional incredibly powered chevys (like i have plus about ten hp, they are out ther i have seen and raced a couple down at Ennis). Every once in a while an F body will come along with 315 rwhp stock, straight out of the factory as afluke or a gift i dont which. Last year at the end of summer ar saw a Camaro with only free mods run a 12.1 at 124 mph, he is one lucky son of a *****, I dont know about a 11.5 on free mods though.

    As for WAY2FAST, i think that even non z06's will scare him, he wont race, it makes me laugh
     
  4. oh yeah and cause i figured that proof of my claims on my car would be in order (noval idea huh?) here you go, this is my dyno sheet. I have never run at Ennis I just watch so i have no timeslips sorry. I prefer stop light to stoplight racing myself even though it is retarded.

    by the way, this car is stock and is achieveing at the rear wheels what GM says that the cars peak hp at the crank is, so add on that ~14%~ power drain due to the drive train and it is jsut a bit more powerful than GM would have you believe. And the cool thing about htis is, that i am not the ony one with a car like this, thereare many many many f bodys that come from the factory "peppier" than they should be.
     
  5. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from bigrob</i>
    <b>oh yeah and cause i figured that proof of my claims on my car would be in order (noval idea huh?) here you go, this is my dyno sheet. I have never run at Ennis I just watch so i have no timeslips sorry. I prefer stop light to stoplight racing myself even though it is retarded.

    by the way, this car is stock and is achieveing at the rear wheels what GM says that the cars peak hp at the crank is, so add on that ~14%~ power drain due to the drive train and it is jsut a bit more powerful than GM would have you believe. And the cool thing about htis is, that i am not the ony one with a car like this, thereare many many many f bodys that come from the factory "peppier" than they should be.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I know what you mean. Theres a whole mess of Caprices out there that were "SSP" special service packages. You know with better cam, bigger T/B, heavier injectors, and all sorts of fun tunning. when you se a factory caprice 9C1 cooking off 285 at the rear wheels, when 260 at the flywheel was factory, its a beautiful thing. And there are factory LS1 F-bodys that run 11.5's, there called B4C Camaro high speed interceptor packages. There what they send after you once you outrun our shitty crown vics. Top end is 185 so when you see these comming you best just pull over. And yes they are available at auction when they get enough miles on them.<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. let me know when an auction is, i want one
     
  7. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Ferrari4ever123</i>
    <b>umm....lemme see...the Z06 is a POS

    how can they come out with a special edition with much less HP than the Z06....GARBAGE

    An NSX is only 3.2L and the Vette is a 5.7L..and their performance is so close.......ummmmm what does that say....Vette=TOTAL GARBAGE

    how come the viper and the vette are the only cars that are ever compared to every other car out there....

    becuase they are the only cars that can even come close to comparing to a import of half the caliber....

    ofcourse the stupid american cars have to have at least 2-5L displacement advantage and beats a car with less HP and less displacement by only .5 second ......ummmm total garbage</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You people consistantly fail to mension the SledgeHammer Corvette which has a V8 and does 254mph. It is stock, it is street-legal, it WAS production, and it could waste this. Now I know you guys are going to argue that only one was made but none the less it was production. Also, you fail to mension the Saleen S7, an American exotic. One more thing. You complain about us comparing cars with fairly large to averaged sized engines to the fairly small engines of say the NSX. Now, I've been in Corvette forums where people come in and they say "A Bugatti Veyron could waste this." Do you know how big that engine is. I don't know how many Liters but I'll give you an idea on the size. It's a W16. Do you think that's fair? Comparing a W16 to a V8? Me neither but I don't go around bitching about it in these forums. I'm sorry but displacement isn't everything. The engine is that big because the car is big enough for an engine of that size.
     
  8. And that's a rap!!! We should end this thread now as it's become endlessly long. One thing that NOBODY can argue is the fact that the NSX and the Corvette are both amazing cars and BOTH should be praised for their strenghts rather than critisized for their weaknesses. Who ever says that the Corvette is garbage is only ignorant and idiotic and deserves major hostility towards him/her. The Z06 is an awesome performer in terms of braking, handling, and acceleration. Whoever says that the NSX is slow and is not worth the $90k price tag is also ignorant and moronic because the NSX is exotic, built with quality, offers luxury, is reliable, and offers great performance. Please let the NSX and the Corvette exist side by side as they are both amazing driving machines. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
  9. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from ch666</i>
    <b>GM do put the crappiest materials in all their cars, even the Corvette. I've even got an admission from them that they put low-quality discs in, most Vettes are never braked hard&heavily so those owners never notice but they're the cheapest you can get.
    Compare that to NSX or BMW, I've never so far heard people having problems like that? Reason most people don't notice the thing I have may be that if you only cruise on the highway with the occasional redlight/street-race and 1/4-mile you won't have a problem but it sure as hell ain't a real sportscar, if it was it'd be made with higher grade materials!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    It's funny that you say it isn't a real sportscar because it performs as well as the Ferrari 360. hmm... I guess that's not a real sportscar either.
     
  10. #260 Will938, Aug 9, 2002
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from sparetire</i>
    <b>Will 938, an 11.5 on a stock LS1 Camaro? I don't think so. Maybe with a tail wind, down hill. The Camaro is fast, but low 13's fast, not mid 11's fast. Thats a whole additional world of fast.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    http://xs-fx.com/raughammer/

    11.562 @ 115 mph. Ex-Fastest internally stock LS1 Camaro.

    Right here in Houston, Texas.
     
  11. Oh god sparetire, enough of the word play, it depends on the corvette on the driver, the weather, ETC.... but id say that ive taken the vette 6/8 times, 7 of those corvettes were different. and twice raced the z06 and both times got waisted, but was able to keep up.

    Guibo im ready to race any vette on my home turth (qualcomm stadium) any time bro, im very confident in my and my car's ability, i can take a vette... Im not stock, but i can take a stock vette<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. I agree with BMW M. This is done. I'm done here. I liked the way this one turned out...not that it will benefit the morons running around in general, but thats their problem. See ya.<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. To the people who hate the corvette or camaro. Just think if GM would build a dual overhead cam ls1. They still use technology from way back with a pushrod V-8. If you don't know what that is, that means it has one camshaft in it.
     
  14. DDDAMMMMNNN i havent sseen a post mo than this shit!!!!!!!
    all i g2 say is that no mata wut a vette cant beat a NSX
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  15. Why the hell dies hp per liter even matter in this case? So what the NSX has Vtech and all that DOHC crap which makes its engine more advanced the then ZO6 but it doesnt make the car better. Chevy makes power with more cubes while Honda makes somewhat less power will Vtech and and technological things, but bottom line Chevy makes more power for alot less money. And one thing that Honda doesnt seem to understand TORQUE ! Hondas got a lead on the technology but they still dont have a car that competes with the Z06 or the stock Corvette for the price. Look at the specs. A c5 runs very low 13s and pulls about .9 gs on the skid pad, and tops out at over 170 mph. Z06 does a mid 12 1/4 mile. Also pulls 1 g in the skid pad. All comming from a car that costs 40 grand !! less then the NSX. So theres no comparison when it comes to bang for the buck the Vettes a winner.
     
  16. You guys always say that nsx is faster than this that's bs. man look at the specs at the begining of the forum it proves that the corvette has better acceleration and topspeed. Also the corvette has better handeling it has as good of handling as a porsche(it says so in the new issue of car and driver). You import fans always say that Americans only buy American cars, because of patriatism, but you import guys are always in imports not american cars that means you have some sort of patriatism to imports. don't say, because they're better, because we just proved to you that stock corvettes are faster than thsi nsx.
     
  17. ok well i dont care wat ne one says......americans r just overly obsessed with cars from their own countries: vettes vipers and mustangs that cant even turn corners. all yank cars r about is muscle muscle muscle

    how do u think ur corvette would come up against an r33 nissan skyline gtr that is even cheaper than the chevrolet

    when you are comparing cars, how bout u think about their handling as well as 1/4 mile performance for a change

    wats the point of owning a car when you cant turn it??

    if i had the money (and im not being unrealistic and saying id buy a mclaren F1)....but if i had the moneyi would easily head towards a skyline

    if ne one has driven this car they would understand wat i mean. wat other car besides maybe the most exclusive porsches can lap under 8 minutes around the nurburgring???

    please guys think b4 u say something is an awesome car

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  18. You know what pisses me off most about you people??? Most of you have never ridden in a Z06 or a NSX and as soon as someone starts comparing them EVERYONE has been in one or knows someone who owns one. I've been to Corvette shows throughout Florida and I've never heard anyone complain about their cars. Course, these people are obviously Corvette biased. People complain about the Corvettes cheap interior and how it's all plastic......have any of you ever seen a NSX's interior??? ALL PLASTIC!! Let's face it, the only reason the NSX is so damn expensive is because it's the best the Japs could do with a 6 cylinder and the closest they could get to a mass produced supercar. Not only that but it cost money to export cars. The Corvette would probably be more expensive overseas. Why do you think that Japan can afford to ship all these little 4 and 6 bangers over here?? Because they're built CHEAP. Dosen't mean they're not reliable. They are. I'll be honest with you. I don't know shit about the NSX other than all the numbers make it sound like Corvette's little ***** for $40,000 more. I do know that the Corvette's tranny and it's LS1, 5, and 6 engine are all tried and proven to be reliable. I travel all over south and central Florida and see Corvettes on the road all the time. See a few NSX's but not many. I doubt that people put the miles on NSX's like they do Corvettes. No magazines ever check reliability of cars over 60 or 70 grand because they know they won't be driven. As for performance, you people call the Corvette a muscle car. It's not. The Vette has always been built to compete. Why do you think all the driving schools throughout the country are using Vettes? Could it be because they're reliable and the closest they can come to a stock real performance car? The muscle cars are Camaros and Trans Ams which still handle pretty damn well today and would probably rape an NSX in the quarter. Bottom line is that the NSX needs a bigger engine with more hp and it sounds like it will be getting one soon. Until then it's an overpriced piece of shit!! Go buy a ZO6 and shut up.
     
  19. I hate assholes that won't admit that a car is nice just because it's American. Jealous pricks that don't like that an American car can show up ANY Japanese cars and most European cars for a fraction of the cost. I'll admit there are nice European cars and Japanese cars. Don't think the NSX is one of them. So in short, we rule, you suck, get over it, and go buy a real car. Go buy a Z06.
     
  20. simply put you are full of shit. ford and chevy are probably the 2 best companies in the world. their cars give a lot more power for the money and they have concepts that could blow your jap and euro cars out of the water. and just think... a mustang cobra could smoke your little NSX so just shut all your traps
     
  21. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BMW M</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from ch666</i>
    <b>I still maintain that C5 is crap quality. I know a car-company that also uses them for endurance-racing and they've told me about the millions of mods I should do just in order to have something that'll last more than 2-3 years. For example the gearbox/differential overheats very easily which will sooner or later give you some expensive repairs, I've already noticed that several times my gearbox-temperature is into boiling mode.
    Update from post 2 pages back I think it is, today my F45(electronically adjustable suspension) gave up on me, stuck in softest mode, and also the Active Handling is completely done for, as soon as I push it the littlest bit through a curve the damn thing locks so heavily that it's impossible to drive decently for several seconds, had to turn it off.
    FYI, I use it for hobby-racing so the wallowing&locking is 100 times more annoying than on a normal road, still doesn't explain the massive problems with EVERYTHING. If for example the engine was having problems, or the gearbox, or the suspension then I could accept it as a one-off but now practically all things are falling to pieces and it's barely 1 year old. I will definitely get rid of it before it hits 3 years and factory-guarantee stops, get something with better reliability like BMW or Porsche or Honda.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    It's no wonder the vette recieved a poor rating in Consumer's Report Auto Magazine in terms of RELIABILITY. I have a friend who also regrets paying $50,000 Canadian for his vette. He told me that he's had problems with the gear box, alternator, and the brakes and that he thinks that GM put the crappiest quality parts and materials into the car. He recommends buying an S2000, Boxster, and an M3 instead of the Vette. He loves the vettes awesome handling and performance but he says that its simply not worth the mechanical headaches and the huge pay cheques he's had to forfeit to his mechanic. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    a corvette is a race car not no luxery car. If you want something loaded out get a 600sl. Boxters and s2000 are cheap. A m3 would be nice but a corvette would be better.<!-- Signature -->
     
  22. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BMW M</i>
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    <b>All this baloney about Corvette's poor reliability is getting on my nerves now.

    BMW M, the Corvette's interior isnt nearly as bad as your bashing it to be. That "cheap plastic" is just normal paneling used in most cars non-luxury cars, which makes sense since the Corvette... *gasp* isnt a luxury car! This poor reliability you keep talking about from Consumer Report Magazine, is a bunch of BS if you ask me. What exactly is it thats so poor? Your free to say that foreign cars are built better, but to say that GM's cars are the WORST because they arent at the highest possible level makes you just as ignorant as the American car fans you claim to hate so much.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I never said GM is the WORST. GM ranks higher than Ford in terms of reliability but lags behind when compared to VW, Honda, Toyota, BMW, Mercedes, and Nissan. I have nothing against GM and I love how they have such a diverse lineup of vehicles that cater to the demands of every auto seeker. But you must face the fact that their reliability could be much better (especially if you're paying $50,000 USD) for a Z06.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> sonny, why must i ***** you repeatedly? show me ONE reliability report on the LONG TERM and maybe I'll listen. <!-- Signature -->
     
  23. Too bad your NSX import POS can't even match up to the performance of this car. Your car is only a V6 with 200 some odd hp this has 350, so in all reality your car would get smoked by a good old GM product not to mention a 50 year old car.
     
  24. Well, actually, I've looked inside the Corvette, and it does have cheap plastic. It's better than GM's other cars, but still not as good as a 911's (which even isn't that good).

    But hey, we're talking about SPORTS cars, and not luxury cars. (Altho. in England at least, and I;m sure in America, a huge majority of Vettes are sold with autos. People use them as status symbols).

    Even EVO mag. said that true the plastic sux, but that's the LAST thing on your mind when that torque is propelling you forward.
    They have a pic in that mag of the Z06, and the back is so compressed to the ground, that it looks like the car's doing a wheelie!

    EVO said that the Suspension setup for the Z06 is way better than that of the normal Vette, and it's a credible sports car. In fact, the NSX, Tuscan S, all tied for second, as four-star EVO cars.

    However, only the NSX, made people question the need for a 911. One staffer, John Hayman, who usually rides a Ducati sportsbike said that the NSX made him reevaluate his need for a 911.

    Speaking of that, Y don't people compare the 911 and the Z06? It's only because the NSX is Japanese and it's easy to rile up people with anti-Jap comments. <!-- Signature -->
     
  25. If We Compare These Two Cars Together Its Hard To Say Which Is "The Best". In Terms Of Performance, They Are Realitively Equal Depending On Your Tastes. But You Have To Compare Them In The Most Important Factor, Performance Per Dollar, Or PPD. The Average Corvette Costs Between $45,000 And $50,000 Depending On Options And Which Model You Choose. While On The Other Hand, The NSX Is Selling For CLose TO $100,000 And Still Only Utilizes A VTEC V-6? Cummon Now! For That Much Money It Is Insane To Buy Something Like That. With Only 260HP In The NSX, The Only Thing Saving Its Behind Is Its Styling And Overall Performance In Handleing, Breaking, And Realitive Speed. For Almost $52,000 I Can Get A Band Spnking New Vette Z06 And Blow The Doors Off Of The NSX. Hell, I Could Own Both A Z06 An A Coupe Vette For The Price Of One NSX. Its Pitifull, Now With The C6 On Our Hands And Possibly A V-8 NSX In The Works The Tables May Turn, However Im Gonna Stick With The Good Ol Yank Powered Vette.
     

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