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Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra' started by Bene, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. vipers are better

    because theres a lot more prestige (sp?) involved in having a viper.
     
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    It won't be much faster than even you dual nostril TA? This goes way beyond the performance of the SS or WS6 with 75 more HP, it will accererate faster than a corvette.
     
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    <b>Just because there going to stop making them for a couple years doesnt mean the camaro and firebirds are just going to disappear.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Okay first off i wanna say that i agree with u but, But think of it like this, the camaro was here and now is gone. what can they possibly do to make it stay this time? it had a bigger engine than this stang and could whoop a stans A$$ but, chevy had the horrible reliability in the maro's and bird's. and corvettes to. so tell me what can they possibly do that they didnt do before to make it better?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Camaro and Firebird were a lot more reliable than most people thought, just check out JD Power and Associates quality tests.

    As for the Corvette, its one of the most reliable and quality built cars on the road, easily.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Hey ford boy ha ha thought I was gone didn't you? wrong retard.....
    I've been sitting here wasting my time just like you do everyday, but I was reading all the posts that you have written, and dam for a ford fan you don't know a thing about them, hahah you have your own topics about you and how dumb your posts are, last one I seen was the comparison of the vette and a cobra lol, if the cobra is that great then why isn't there a big hype about it, I don't be seeing people when someone driving up going "dam you just got a mustang......wow I'm jealous" there usually laughing hysterically at the car, but don't get me wrong they wont do it in your face, cuz they don't want there driveway full of tears, is that why ford has water proof seats? for your tears? but when someone drives up in a vette or a 3000gt peoples be like "dam that a tight car I'm jealous of it" you be walking away proud and happy unlike you crying and depressed, before I go ford boy where is your truck....?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Dude if you were reading all his posts like you said you were, you'd realize he's working on a project or plans to atleast work on an F-body. He's proud of his truck so leave him alone. He only defends this car when people make wrong or stupid comments. Shit he's even put me on the spot pointing that this isn't a supercharged car it has a Roots-Type blower, both work differently. Don't get to excited Mustang boys, I'm only defending fordman not your car, It's fast but I still hate it. But like I always say if you need help defending American Muscle just ask. Long live the Muscle car. And oh yeah, a 3000gt doesn't constitute as a Muscle car. Too damn heavy for a Japansese car if you ask me...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    talking about me not being able to read, uhh did i say anything about his truck noooooo..... i just asked where is it. wow he put you on the spot, you know how many people don't care? what do you own a chevy camero, or do you own a ford in a chevy body? if you pop your hood does it say chevy or ford, well it may say chevy over the original ford writting. don't be ashamed to own a ford, i rather own a forgien car over any american car anyday more work goes into the forgien car, not no 2 sec snap together parts like american cars are, example of a american car designer.....(look bob we have to design the mustang, how shall we do it?........ well let not worry about it just make it the same as the other one like we have for the last 5 years and call it a day........) all i gotta say is atleast forign cars come with standard brake unlike fords hahaha
    Line from "popular" commercial
    "I have crashed my Ford a thousand times, because it comes with optional brakes"
    REFRAIN
    Ohhhh how crappy you have
     
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    Why don't you shut your mouth, look at the inside your f-body, and tell me whose car is cheap, KID?

    Mustangs are more reliable than camaros, look at any consumer reports and prove me wrong.

    Ford builds the engines by hand and are very well put together. Why don't you ask 84Fordman whether he sees more f-bodies or mustangs at his shop?

    If you want someone to reply to your forum, you shouldn't have titled it 'I hate Rustangs' in a Mustang forum. If you want attention go to your mother and get off our forums, KID.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Don't come to me and start talking shit too Hoseman! Like I said take a look at the WS6 forum. The man who built the damn car even claims they built the Mustang Cheaply. And as far as my forum goes you dumbass, I even said that I put that topic up there to get attention it has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Why don't you learn how to read a forum more carefully. Better yet you could've gotten that on my last statement. It's obvious you know how to read, but do you know how to understand what you read? Obviously not. Don't ever try to talk trash to me you f*cking *****. Your not dealing with a kid you dealing with a man! I don't need to ask 84Fordman shit about anything. I know he knows about cars I don't need you to clarify it for me! What I do want you to clarify is how ignorant you are to even talk about something and trash talk me without even getting all of your shit straight! Read my forum, and read the statement you quote asshole! Maybe you need to write it down to help you remember what I said. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->The same thing happens to me alot, people just love blowing things outta proportion.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I'm sorry, but is anyone else sick of reading this shit? Back and forth, back and forth. After reading this shit, I feel like going out and buying a ricer. No, that's just crazy talk. It's like kindergarden in here. And no, you don't need to tell me to shut the #$%# up, that's what I'm here to tell you.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Shut the f*ck up!<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> Just kidding! Yeah I agree it get's old. But a lot of people argue for sake of personal experience. No two cars are alike. People see SS's beat Cobra's, or Cobra's beat SS's. But that's the beauty part of the argument, but of course with some actual facts. Everyone here has an opinion and I know it doesn't sound like it but I respect them all, except the ignorant statements that people don't have anything to back up with. I love cars a lot. I hate Mustangs for personal reasons. I've said it before I've seen too many people spend too much money just to say they beat a camaro or firebird with their mustang. I think that's ridiculous! But it's true, and I thin personally that this car is a big example of what I'm trying to say. People are spending a lot more money for a Mustang that can finally beat a camaro or firebird. And that's the truth. Camaro's and Firebirds have beaten the Mustang for a very long time. Finally this thing can beat them both. But it's gonna cost ya. Now all I'd have to do is do the same thing to my car and it's back to the drawing board for Ford. I seriously they do a lot of changes on the new Mustang to come.
     
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    Used to? He still is!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I saw that there was a lot or replies, so i added one......<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Why? Becuase unlike you people do respect me whether I like Mustangs or not! I only talk shit when people make ignorant comments or when they talk shit to me. I do have facts everytime I make a comment, I havent seen you say shit. Don't try to contradict me because it won't work. I have personal experiments with mustangs and I read about them too. If what I say is wrong I have no problem admitting I was, but everything I post is not made up, so F*ck off with your posts, becuase this conversation is dead and so is your humor! </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Jesus H. Christ...Friggin Chevy Fans...Full 'o hot air...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Man you don't know what my comment was about, so don't comment on it by saying I'm full of hot air! I talk shit yes but that's with everyone not just with Mustangs. I only talk about how disappointed I am with this car but me and others fight about other things so dont' try to get into this conversation, becuase like I said it's dead.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    kids please if you wanna compare these cars compare the early models such as the 67 cobra (what i own) and a 67 camaro ss those were the real sports.

    todays vehicles are good for trucks. there is no room for anymore sports cars why?
    cause the governments cannot afford tohave them beating the cops all the time and that every government #%$ has at least one of each sports car from the three car companies ie. chevy ford and dodge
    but the camaro is coming back and it might not be able to beat this but i know girls won't go near i because they know it's a real mans car. have you ver seen a purple camaro?no.....
    have you seen a purple mustang?.... yes

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    talking about me not being able to read, uhh did i say anything about his truck noooooo..... i just asked where is it. wow he put you on the spot, you know how many people don't care? what do you own a chevy camero, or do you own a ford in a chevy body? if you pop your hood does it say chevy or ford, well it may say chevy over the original ford writting. don't be ashamed to own a ford, i rather own a forgien car over any american car anyday more work goes into the forgien car, not no 2 sec snap together parts like american cars are, example of a american car designer.....(look bob we have to design the mustang, how shall we do it?........ well let not worry about it just make it the same as the other one like we have for the last 5 years and call it a day........) all i gotta say is atleast forign cars come with standard brake unlike fords hahaha
    Line from "popular" commercial
    "I have crashed my Ford a thousand times, because it comes with optional brakes"
    REFRAIN
    Ohhhh how crappy you have </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You my friend are starting shit with the wrong person in this forum. Did I say you were ripping on his truck? NO I said leave him alone...but I know what your implying so back off! Second of all you want to talk about what I have under my hood? An LT-1 *****! I hate all new Mustangs and everything they're about. I used to agree with you but you rubbed me the wrong way ***** boy! Now your not just ripping on Mustangs your ripping on American cars. Your beloved 3000gt couldn't light a candle next to this car. This car is fast, ugly but fast...no doubt about it. I still hate it, but now I hate you! Why don't you do all all a favor bend over and stick your head up your asshole, you might as well considering your talking out of your ass. Little ***** Boy! Go ahead, respond, I'd love to hurt your feelings some more. Fear the what? More like fear everyone in this forum for insulting American cars. You don't like American cars? Well tell me why companies like Mitsubishi run Monopolies over there becuase their cars sell shit so they can make more money. Call American cars crappy all you want, be we provide the largest Automobile Company (GM) and the richest (Ford). If it weren't for companies like this, are economy wouldn't be so high, we'd be stuck in a huge economic crisis like your beloved Japan is going through right now. Talk some more shit now you uneducated through opinions fool! Go ahead I'd love to tear you up some more. I bet you don't even own a 3000GT. Get off the forum boy!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Ohh i'm sorry am that i am making fun of your boyfiend ill stop, dont cry of please don't, look little boy do i care what you have under your hood.......no......... wow i can say i have all that to where is the proof huh ok then stfu .... you hate rustangs or fords in general, cuz it sure seems to me that you love them, your always defending them, i dont care about your economy ford, and all american cars suck, as much as you..... cheap car for a cheap price... what you say the 3000 is ugly look 100times better than you ford camero, what yea all ford part in a camero body ahhahaha, and it looks 3000time better than you and your man...........
     
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    <b>i'm not going to get really in to this so i'm just going to say what i'm going to say:.....i'm a Ford guy, and mustangs are my fav. car. mustangs have 280cid. engines and have performance like camaros.
    mustang-280cid.-260hp., 0-60- 5.6/6.0sec.
    camaroZ28-350cid.-285-300hp,0-60- 5.2/5.6

    (and don't say a damn thing about the camaro z28 doing faster
    i'm not including camaro SS's.)
    mustangs are on the rise even as you read this. getting faster,
    lighter(need to get a whole lot lighter,LOL),quicker,sleaker.
    all with 280 cid. engines. chevy uses 350's and is doing damn well, damn i have 2002 corvette z06, and it kicks ass. i beat mustangs all the time!...but lately i have found it's getting harder to beat them.mustangs are starting to bring back that old fashioned performance.if Ford decides to start putting 351 windsor engines in
    (which i heard their planning on doing),it will get even harder for chevy. i hav'nt said that mustangs are better,but sooner or later,chevy is going to be play'n the catch up game.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The z06s are tight. However this and the cobra R are the only two mustangs that can actually do anything, and this car still can't beat a normal Corvette coupe, because its too heavy. Don't worry the Corvettes will get stronger and faster every year. Besides the only mustangs I ever see on the road are the v-6 ones and those suck. I smoked a Mustange GT on saturday too, and it was all too easy.
     
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    What have i told you over and over again, i don't care about your car, and you must have a ford camero because you have not said anything about not having ford parts in your car with the chevy body. you are talented on that part, what did you and your man help to put it together, since you care so deeply for him (fordboy), shut up, until you can proof what you have and can proof there no ford parts i don't want to hear your jibberish...........
    do me a favor look at my picture and know it's for you.........


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    You are contradicting yourself again! You obviously care about my car if your gonna try to talk shit about it. Do you know what an LT-1 is? It's a chevy, not ford. There's nothing ford about my car dumbass! My god, what a f u c k i n g idiot you are! Why don't you prove to us that you have a 3000gt. That car in my Avatar is mine you dipshit! Do me a favor ***** boy and look at my picture and know it's for you...<!-- Signature -->
     
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    What have i told you over and over again, i don't care about your car, and you must have a ford camero because you have not said anything about not having ford parts in your car with the chevy body. you are talented on that part, what did you and your man help to put it together, since you care so deeply for him (fordboy), shut up, until you can proof what you have and can proof there no ford parts i don't want to hear your jibberish...........
    do me a favor look at my picture and know it's for you.........


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    You are contradicting yourself again! You obviously care about my car if your gonna try to talk shit about it. Do you know what an LT-1 is? It's a chevy, not ford. There's nothing ford about my car dumbass! My god, what a f u c k i n g idiot you are! Why don't you prove to us that you have a 3000gt. That car in my Avatar is mine you dipshit! Do me a favor ***** boy and look at my picture and know it's for you...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    look at your ugly fat self just babbling away about nothing again, poor dude, hey whats with the smile are you beating it, while looking at 3000gts? Well since you are make sure you wash up before you babble on with another responce, hey i even know what you will say, I OWN A CAMARO IT IS BEST CAR I HAVE WITH A LT-1, I HATE MUSTANGS I'M JUST TO EMBARRASED TO ADMITT I HAVE FORD PARTS IN MY CAR, AMERICAN CARS RULE, BLAH BLAH BLAH FORD BLAH BLAH BLAH FORD) shut up no one cares, just continue you beating it, i know it your motto........ok i don't need to prove to you what i have and why beacuse i don't have to prove anything to someone that hate a brand of cars so much ( so she claims,.....i meant he claims ) the he has it in his car hidden by chevy body, ahahhaha, what your girl leave you if she knew you had a ford, opps i meant your boy, sorry, stupid americans ( you) buy stupid cars.............
    and i have already proved i have a 3000gt to fordboy your perverted freak...........


     
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    Little Boy? Try 6'5" 230lbs of big boy all up in your girlfriends pussy every f*cking night, cuz you can't hang with the big boys! You've proved you can't hang with the big boys by buying a Shitsubishi! So tonight when you get up in your girlfriend and you fall through cuz her pussy is too tight, think about us, cuz if you race any of us she's bound to go home with bigboys little man! I think nothing I just said was taken from you...so go ahead come back, I dare you! Don't ever come up here insulting American cars, are you even American? If so get the f*ck out, if your not happy!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b> You are an idiot Lingenfelter, face it. Comparing a Z06 to this? TO THIS?! The Cobra is more aimed to compete with Corvettes, NOT THE DAMN Z06! Since your feeling so insecure, why don't you go over to the BMW Issetta forum and talk about how much your beloved Z06 can smoke that BMW and how it just cannot compete with the sheer power of the Z06. God damn your an idiot.

    Want to know the reason why the Mustang sells better? Lower price and comparable, if not better, performance. Why don't you compare Corvette Coupe (NON-Z06 and NON-C5R) STOCK to this 2003 Cobra STOCK.

    Price:

    Corvette Coupe: $48,380
    Corba Coupe: $29,000

    Winner: Cobra

    Horsepower:

    Corvette Coupe: 350 bhp with a 5.7L
    Cobra Coupe: 390 bhp with a 4.6L

    Winnner: Cobra

    Torque:

    Corvette Coupe: 360 ft-lbs
    Cobra Coupe: 390 ft-lbs

    Winner: Cobra

    Weight:

    Corvette Coupe: 3212 lbs
    Cobra Coupe: 3664 lbs

    Winner: Corvette

    Better Bang Per Buck: Cobra

    Winner Overall: Cobra

    When will you Chevy boys stop bringing out your biggest guns to compare it with someting not in it's league?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Fordman some of your specs are off again.
    The corvette coupes cost $40,000 not $48,000 that's the price of the z06. Also this car will cost $35,000 not $29,000, Duh it has a supercharger in it. Does it make any sence for ford to throw a supercharger in this car, and not raise the price from the pervious model. God for a super car guru you sure are off with specs. Also this car still can't beat the coupe, because it weight too much.
    Corvette 0-60 = 4.4 to 4.5 sec
    Svt 2003 0-60= 4.8 to 4.9 sec

    Get your gt40 yet fordman ?
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    Where'd you get 0-60 is 4.8? The current Cobra with 90HP and torque LESS gets that. You think the times went down?

    For all you idiots: This is the Convertible. It naturally weighs more and costs more than a coupe. COMPARE THE CONVERTIBLES #S to this. Corvette convertible still cost 40k? Still weighs 3100lbs.? Geez you chevy guys.

    And how about the Corvette hardtop vs. Roush 360R

    0-60 Corvette 4.5, Roush 4.3
    1/4 Corvette 13.x?, Roush 12.3

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    Hey Homan you Dumb ShiT,
    Get you dam facts right, before you open your Fat mouth. 84Fordman compared the 2003 svt to the 2002 corvette coupe, not me. I just corrected his facts. Since when am I a Chevy Guy ?????? You Ford guys are so full of yourselves, that's why people are always correcting every single one of you, ford fans. Say some more Shit Homan. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I know that fordman compared the '03 Cobra to the '02 corvette coupe. The point is for 10k less the '03 Cobra will be very competitive with the '02 corvette, that is the point. My comparison is actually fair, they both are around the same costs, and the vette gets cleaned up. But I guess you can't do nothing but talk shit. Look at what I say I refute everything you say and you just run off your mouth as it is obvious that you know nothing. I tell you to back up a comment (the 0-60 times you quoted) and you don't.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    How many times will you prove your self-a dumb Ass, Homan? What you can't accept the fact that your GOD 84Fordman made a mistake. Also the 2002 corvette coupe cost around 42,000 not 50,000 like 84Fordman said and he started the comparison. This 2003 svt will most likely be a $36,000 dollar car, if it won't then prove it. Also this car does go 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, again prove me wrong. Your the dumb ASS comes out here and says, no it won't cost that much and its faster than 4.8 sec with no proof. However instead of saying what the correct 0-60 time and proving it. ITS YOU that comes out here and opens your Fat aSS mouth, and start blurting out nothing but Shit, to me and does not even prove the correct 0-60 time. Then you go blaming Chevy guys for being dumb. You also know nothing, because its so obvious that you only know shit about Fords, and its not much. 84Fordman #$%#ed up and you're going to talk shit to me! Also just because I corrected 84Fordman, does not make me a Chevy guy Homan. However they are all a lot smarter than you are, by far. Well, now I am going to talk shit to, you Acid-Crack addict freak, who jacks-off to a POS Ford focus. Your nothing but a hypocrite. You can take this Fucked up looking Car and shove it up your FAT aSs. You FuckinG pig. Say some more shit, crack baby.


    The truly stupid should be banded from posting à HOSEMAN (Who only knows shit about Fords) I won't correct my GOD 84Fordman, because he will **** me in my Fat Ugly ASS.


    http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/index.htm
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    Okay.....

    First, I never claimed the corvette was 50k, if you actually look in the long list of quotes you'll see me use the 42k that you agree upon.

    Second, as this site and motortrend said, the '03 Cobra convertible will be 35k, which means the coupe will be 29-32k.

    Third, I never claimed any specs on this car. Only you did. I'll ask you again for the link of how you found the 0-60 time of 4.8. But of course you can't explain why the times didn't improve from '01 despite the 70HP increase.

    The only information on performance that we know, Coletti said it himself, is that it will trap in the 110s in the quarter, that isn't corvette #s?
     
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    Oops ! and I forgot to say.... This is KICKING the '03 Vette !!

    Happy 50th birthday, vette !!!

    I hope you remember this date for years !!! LOL !</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> WHOA there kid!! You have a lot of guts thinking that the cobra will ever be in the same class as the vette. sure it has more hp, but weighs a ton in comparison. The 03 vette of which you speak, is a coupe. Not (mind you) the Z06. In fact, given the weight and weight distribution of the two, id say even a stock coupe would take out a new cobra. Nobody can say for sure intil the match is don, but that is just my opinion based on hard facts. Im not doggin the new cobra. in fact id say its nice to have a car with so much hp for less. But trying to put it down by saying its a POS for 03 is devine ignorance on your part. Sure the mustang is a legend, but the vette was a legacy way before the first mustang concept was even thought of. being in buisness for half a centry.......now thats a tru legend.
    P.S. If i hurt your feelings concerning anything you have said before.....cry a river......build a bridge......and get over it.
    P.P.S.i hope the date comes when people like you stop trying to make enemies out of fellow american car manufacturing fans. But ill tell you this...makeing enemies out of us is not helping your cause.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Alright buddy, you think you are so smart, so let's do the math, shall we??? We all know by now that the new Cobra is SEVERELY UNDERRATED in terms of its flywheel horsepower. This was documented in 5.0 Mustang Magazine this month with a write up about the dyno results of the new Cobra. The new Cobra spun the dyno to the tune of 360 rear wheel horsepower, which is equivalent to about 420 horsepower at the flywheel. Anyway, now that we have that litte fact out in the open, lets calculate power/weight ratios of the two cars:

    2003 50th Anniversary Chevrolet Corvette Coupe:

    Curb Weight: 3214lbs.
    Horsepower: 350

    Power to Weight Ratio: 350/3216 = .10889

    2003 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra:

    Curb Weight: 3664lbs.
    Horsepower: 420

    Power to Weight Ratio: 420/3664 = .11463

    Well, well, well...what have we here??? If I'm not mistaken, I believe the COBRA has the advantage in power to weight ratio!!! This means that, given two equally skilled drivers behind the wheel of both cars, the Cobra will win. Let this be a lesson to you not to open your mouth before you know the facts.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> This match between the cobra and a stock vette has not been done yet. All you can do is speculate as i have said before. Sure the math is on your side, but it isint fact intil its done. Im not disputing the fact that the cobra is a great car. But in my opinion, the vette has a lot more class and prestige than the cobra. Class and prestige may not mean anything to you, because your argument is based on preformance in a straight line. The cobra would probably win in a drag, but the vette would kill it on a track course. You may argue that who would pull up to a stoplight and yell,"hey lets go to the track and race" This is true but also in my opinion, for a car to be great, it has to preform well on both the strip and the track. Due to the mustangs strange weight distribution, it would be prone to fishtailing on turns. You can dispute that all you want because just like you, i have no control of what the other person can say. And let that be a lesson to you.

    P.S. im not trying to start a fight between chevy and ford here okay. I just get annoyed when people try to bash the vette by saying it is a peice of ----. If it has been around for 50 years, then there has got to be somthing good about it dont you agree? Same with the mustang. Been around since 64 so there has got to be somthin good about too. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 428cjpower</i>
    <b>Dude, chill out, im not tryin to start shit with u.Correct me if im wrong but as far as i know chevy also makes a v6 camaro. How come people dont go out and buy that. I agree with u taht ford should put a bigger engine in the mustang and for '04 they will. I like the older mustangs from teh 60's and early 70's, those were the true muscle cars.i just dont get why u say that the only reason people buy mustangs is becasue of the v6. In some ways it is true that people buy mustang cuz of the v6 but why dont people go out and buy the v6 camaro??and my id does stand for cobra jet cuz its a badass engine.they are very fast</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    That's all fine, and I knew it about your name, anyway, just like you guys I'm defending my car, so naturally when people talk shit I talk shit back. But the reason why the Mustang was so successful in sales is becuase of the V6. GM boys know better, ford women don't. If a GM boy's woman goes out and gets a V6 camaro then she's no longer his woman! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> I'm not saying the V6 is the only reason people buy the Mustang, I'm saying the V6 is what made it's sales so successful. And Mustang boys, that's really nothing to brag about! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Dude, chill out, im not tryin to start shit with u.Correct me if im wrong but as far as i know chevy also makes a v6 camaro. How come people dont go out and buy that. I agree with u taht ford should put a bigger engine in the mustang and for '04 they will. I like the older mustangs from teh 60's and early 70's, those were the true muscle cars.i just dont get why u say that the only reason people buy mustangs is becasue of the v6. In some ways it is true that people buy mustang cuz of the v6 but why dont people go out and buy the v6 camaro??and my id does stand for cobra jet cuz its a badass engine.they are very fast</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    That's all fine, and I knew it about your name, anyway, just like you guys I'm defending my car, so naturally when people talk shit I talk shit back. But the reason why the Mustang was so successful in sales is becuase of the V6. GM boys know better, ford women don't. If a GM boy's woman goes out and gets a V6 camaro then she's no longer his woman! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> I'm not saying the V6 is the only reason people buy the Mustang, I'm saying the V6 is what made it's sales so successful. And Mustang boys, that's really nothing to brag about! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I'll tell you whats to brag about ford selling lots of v-6 mustnags...THEIR STILL AROUND!! That means that the people who want a v-8 stang will still be able to buy one. Maybe if the camaro could have sold some v-6 models (any model really), they might still be around. I'm not saying that I like v-6 stangs or camaros, but if it keeps my favorite car alive then what the hell, I hope they keep selling millions of them. As far as camaro women leaving a guy with a v-6 camaro theirs a simple reason for that. Women like style more than power in a car, so when he brings a v-6 camaro home he has nothing really, no style or power. Where as a v-6 stang at least has the style left in it.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    American HP come on now! You know I like you man, so calm down. I hate the both V6's and as far as styling goes it's a matter of preference. I was just saying that shit earlier as a joke. You may think the Mustang has style but I don't, but again that's your preference. I think the looks is dull, you might not, you think Camaros have a dull look, again that's just preference. I do hope however when the new Stang comes out it looks like the first Gen Mustangs and not this. I think this look is getting old, especially since you can turn a corner without seeing one. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I wasn't trying to be mean their Ihaterustangs, I was just stating that because of the v-6 model the stang as a whole lives on. I wish that the camaro would have lived on to. While I do like mustangs better with thier styling, it dosen't mean I don't like the camaros. That would be sweet if the new mustang looked more like the old ones. But even the 99-02 stangs have a lot of little things that go back to the late 60's stangs styling. I also hope that chevy doesn't screw up the camaro like they did the monte carlo!
     
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    <b>OK, I noticed someone in this board and couldn't resist replying. I only read a few of the first and last pages, but could no longer take hearing all the BS. What's the deal with the V6 junk that American car manufactures are making (let alone the V8's)? I mean, the Mustang V6 5spd runs the 1/4 in what, a high 15? I can get a V6 powered automatic Accord to do that much, and be 50 times more reliable and last about 200,000 miles more and still have a higher resale and look better. Let's not mention the TypeS CL and TL, or the new Nissan Altima, ok. TypeS or TypeR RSX/Integra would humiliate these cars (both Camaro V6 and Mustang V6) with 1/3 the engine, hell they are all but keeping up with a GT with a little 4cyl! And don't break out Cobra this and Cobra that, then I'll just hit ya with the NSX and S2000. S2000 would humiliate a Cobra on the track, and the NSX..... well Ford doesn't even have an exotic to compete with it. Where is the styling in the Mustang? There is none. They are trying so hard to copy off anything foreign, and it's not working well. They even have black housing headlights now, which Jap car makers have been using for years now. What's up with the fake hood scoop?? Then you get to the V8 powered cars. Ford can't make a DOHC engine to save their lives, and Chevy needs to get out of the 50's with the pushrod single cam V8. All this talk about this new SVT will do this and that and blah blah blah. Didn't this same type of shit talking happen when that CobraR (R? hhmmm, did someone take that from the Japs again?) came out? The Mustang will NEVER compete with a Corvette or Viper though, I will say that. When I see Mustangs in LeMans races with Vette and Viper, then I will applaud you on competition with the Vette. And don't sit there and tell me that Saleen is in it, that car is no where near a Mustang. Final note to the guy that says the Vette has been copying the NSX since 1953, in his signature. Since when was the Vette a hand built all aluminum, mid-engine V6 powered, exotic car that runs 12.9 @ 110mph in the quarter stock NA? Honda did their own thing with the NSX, so don't think so highly of the Corvette that you would actually think Honda would copy anything from it. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Let me start off by saying that the s2000 will get blown away by a mustang cobra (2001 or 2003), both in the quarter mile and on a road course. Don’t say anything about them being in different classes, cause the s2000 is just as much money as the cobras. The nsx may win a race with some twists, but on the drag strip it will get beat. That’s not so good for a $85,000 car. Now though the z06 will beat the nsx in every performance category out there, and for $30,000 less, how’s that for your great little jap car. Moron.
    You say that ford cant build a dohc engine to save their lives, yet they are getting 420hp out of one. You say that chevy needs to get out of the 50's and stop using pushrods. It's sad that a 50's technology will whip your advanced nsx everytime. Oh but wait, the nsx has sparkplugs, I guess because of that it has a technology out of the 30's. Idiot.
    You say that American cars are trying to copy imports? When did imports have v-8s under the hood? How in anyway does the camaro, vette, mustang, or firebird have any styling taken from imports on them? Moron.
    You talk about the stang competing with the viper and vette, it was never meant to! Idiot.
    I can tell you know little about cars, so I'll stop, because idiots like you are really starting to bother me.
     
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    You don't get so cocky because 2004 is a long ways away and how do you know its gonna be 500+HP???? Before too long it will be like it was before when the Vettes got really hott and then they were forced to stop making them with that much performance. If they are gonna bring the F-bodies back then why did they stop making them completely? Couldnt they just re-design its look and motor and keep on going like Ford has done in the past? If Vettes keep getting higher in perfomance then they will have to jack the price up and before long it will be as much as a Viper and tell me how many Vipers do you see cruisin around the town? <!-- Signature -->
     

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