What year is your Civic? I don't think I've EVER seen one without a tachometer, Honda quality is at the top of its game for an econo passenger car, look at the seats in the EF Chassis Si - they're only made of foam and cloth, and yet they're so good that people buy the seats from junk yards to use as a racing seat when operating on a budget. Hell, I've even seen a Toyota off-road racing truck with 1989 Si seats in it. Yes, Civics are just economy cars, however they're economy cars with just a little more balls than most economy cars, and the handling is a bit above par as well, on top of that, they are economy cars that have amazing performance potential when modified right. I dunno what Civic whutz-iz-nutz was thinking of, but the least power I've seen from a Civic was 93 hp, and that was from a 1987 Cx, the slowest Civic model (I know before then most Civics had less power), and yet, that's one more hp than the Celica GT of the same time (there's Toyota's superiority for ya....<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>), out of the 1987-1991 Civic Si, its 1.6 litre engine put out 108-130hp, pretty impressive, considering. Since 1992, its 1.6 litre engine pumped out 125-160hp, also much more than your quoted 80hp.