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Discussion in '2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept' started by z28infront, Aug 9, 2002.
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<b>Well the saleen beat the c5r vette by two laps in the opening race and for lemans accidents do happen and well they knocked out the two competing cars...and as for saleen they win almost every year with their saleen SR, i think its 5 championships in 7yrs not to bad and in fact the best...and as for nascar, dude do u even watch it, ford is always winning the manufactures championship, u dumb git...also if ford was so bad why was chevy complaning that it was loosing when ford came one two three in nascar with a 4-door sedan while chevy was using a 2-door...oh well i guess chevy aint nuttin but whinners, and also even after they took stuff away from ford they still win the cup aint that the shit
and ur v-6 camaro makes 200hp not 270hp as someone said earlier, wow dumb as*es realy do drive chevy's...and well a mustang can beat a vette does the word roush stage 3 come to mind...plus a vette is a two seater with a bigger engine and the mustang is a 5 seater with a smaller engine...oh well
any how yea the mustang is 10k less and only .3 secs off the camaro add 10k to mods and well the vette gets beat and add another 15k to equal a vette cost and well that 20k mustang just became a 10sec drag/street car but then again chevy has always been overpriced pos
plus the mustang saleen s396 runs the 1/4 in 11.6, the s351 does it in mid 12's and both are still cheaper than a z06 damn that sucks dont it...
the camaro is a freakin plastic dart on wheels while the mustang is true to its pony roots of the 60's
so in all catagories chevy looses and u still like them wow u are a dumb git after all arnt u, plus the c5r is a 500k mod to a z06 vette just to make it fast enough and event then the s7r beats it up and is less and doesnt need any real fancy mods like the vette needed...but then again thats why it lapped second place c5r twice in the opener and won in other races as well recks disabled it from beatin up chevy at the two races u mentioned</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->where have you been manthe rolex 24 hours was the opening race and the vettes finished 1-2 the saleens finished many laps behind because they broke.and NASCAR Im a big fan of it you on the other hand probably dont though because the last ford to win the cup was dale jarret in the 99 season sincethen its been nothing but GM and ford hasnt won the manufacturers points in several yearsand ford actually complains as much as Gm and dodge because the teams always want their cars to have an advantage over the competition. but NASCAR tries to keep it even. and the v6 with 270 hp is the 4.3 liter that is not used in camaros. and why are you comparing tuner modified cars into the conversation to compare with production chevys saleen and roush are separate from ford and the C% r is only 250 000 not 500 000 like you said and at least it doesnt break like the S7 r. and .3 second in a quarter mile drag race might not seem like much but i have an older brother who drag races and .3 second is about 2 car lengths and if you need to go to roush or saleen to find a modified mustang thats able to beat a stock chevy you have just reinforced the argument that chevy is better than ford. thanks for giving me something to talk about but I really would like it if you came bearing fact s rather than assumptions untruths and the name calling if you feel like cutting on chevys because i dont like typing this much at once.
Ultimate you just pissed me off, and I hate Ford. Wait til Brown Doggie gets back on. I'll call him.
I find this almost pathetic. Everyone is comparing the Mustang vs. Camaro/Trans Am. Ford's supposedly pony car, which can barely out run a V6 standard Camaro, has to be tuned to keep with the 350ci-ed Camaro! Saleen has to get a hold of it and drop 40k to get it to even stay within 100ft of a stock 'Vette. Come on. That is just bad. Mustang's are chick's cars...expecially the new ones. They're all looks! I also severely doubt anyone would that owned this car would actually attempt to drive it any distance. Vehicles with this kind of power are only supposed to put miles on the odometer a 1/4 mile at a time. Anything producing this much power would break down after extended running. Note: This is also only a concept!!!! Even if it went into production...it'd be for drag race use only...just like the original ZL-1! I've said my peace <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> Thank you for the time.
Who is this 93cobra cupcake?? Any idiot who knows drag racing knows that John Force's car is not a mustang!!! Its a fiberglass body of a mustang dumbass! And a couple years ago it was a Camaro body. The engines in most funny cars are supercharged hemi's(which is mopar) Anyways why dont you go buy an engine book and learn how to improve your pile of junk 5 liter so it can try to keep up with our factory 12 second LS1's!!!
CHEVY POWER BOYS!
FORD MUSTANGS SUCK! I HAVE SEEN MY FREIND SMOKE OVER 20 OF THEM WITH HIS OLD 92' CAMARO. THIS WILL NOT BREAK DOWN CUZ ITS AMERICAN MADE. EVEN IF IT DOES I THINK THEY STILL HAVE THE 10YEAR/100,000MILE WARRANTY GOING AROUND. FORD IS SCREWED CEPT THERE SUV'S. THE EXCURSION IS BAD!
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RS, how about listing some of that 17K that got your car to 400 horses? My car is well over 500 horses and pulls 11's, I doubt your 400-hp car does.
Mustangs don't suck. Did your friend race all 6-cylinder Mustangs? 'Cause blowing by somebody's mother on the highway doesn't count as a race...
RS, you can't beat American performance for the money. Rich's 72 GTO has less than 3k in the motor and does 11's.
it will break down
since this is a chevy it will break down but im not hatin on chevys cuz if chevys were extinct then our tools would rust so thanks chevy.<!-- Signature -->
umm your in the wrong section, your thinking of ford mustangs, or just ford in general. I saw this lisence plate that read: "I'd rather push a ford than drive a chevy". I laughed, well thats what you would be doing if you had a ford, you would be pushing it, Good Spirit! CHEVY FOREVER, FORD SUCKS<!-- Signature -->
Tru dat ford defines the phrase "piece of shit".<!-- Signature -->
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i dont mind mustangs. i really enjoy beating them in fact, the only question i have to ask of ford fans is this: what year did the mustang have more horsepower than the camaro? ( i mean equivalent models in the same price category ie a GT and a Z28, not a cobra-r and a z28)
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pick any car in the world....ford of equivalent value is worse
listen 93cobra ford sucks chevy rules camaros better mustang sucks thats that so screw off CHEVY FOREVER FORD NEVER!!!!
fords are faster
well since the fastest mile an hour in a 1/4 is by a mustang (john force) that would mean that chevy is slower and i dont care about stock hp yah camaro wins but mustang makes a 4.6 camaro makes a 5.7 that is bigger then 1 liter and they still are barely faster but souped up stangs kill souped up camaros oh yah and ummmmmmm bet u didnt know that camaros are now extinct. 2002 is the last camaro hahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
I agree that ford sucks. they used to be good with the gt40 but they've definitely gone downhill with sports cars. the lightnings are better than the mustangs for cryin out loud. Chevy is alright but the viper is definitely better than the camaro and corvettes. VIPERS!
MY Z28 '96 CAMARO HAS BEATEN THE SHIT OUT OF A '93 COBRA 7 OUT OF 7 TIMES
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY U ARE HAPPY ABOUT CAMARO GETTING EXTINCT...
WHEN IT IS YOUR MUSTANG WILL HAVE TIME TO REST IT'S ASS
just get over it, you know this or ANY CAR has your mustang beat hell i probally could beat you in my vw rabbit. And you are just mad becouse you know ford could never ever get this close with anything the only good ford is the gt40 like viper was saying.
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for one thing Ford has a V8 Mustang that makes 260 HP right and that is a 4.6 and Chevy has a 270 V6 for #$%# sakes like ford should really gets it act to gether and do something i like the looks of the stang but they are slow as #$%# and since the Camaro is DEAD THE CHEVY SSR IS STILL GONNA KICK THE SHIT OUT OF ANY STOCK MUSTANG THE ONLY WAY A mod Mustang would beat a MOd Camaro is maybe if the Mustang NOS and the vette didn't
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Fords have always sucked and they will never stop suckin My SS easily has kicked the shit out of a handful of cobras
THE GAYEST THING ABOUT THE CAMARO IS IT HAS A 350 IN IT WAIT HOW MUCH HP DOES IT PRODUCE LIKE 305 IT SHOULD BE WAY HIGHER AND MY MUSTANG I HAVE BLOWN THE SHIT OUT OF CAMAROS WHEN IT WAS STOCK SO THAT 305 HP THAT IT PUTS OUT MIGHT NIGHT EVEN BE RIGHT THE POINT IS
A 350 SHOULD PUT OUT A LOT MORE THAN 305 HP AND SHOULD BE KILLING
MUSTANGS BUT IT DOESNT
OH AND FOR VIPER THE LIGHTNING IS FASTER THAN A STOCK MUSTANG,CAMARO,
FIREBIRD, AND CORVETTE SO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT MUSTANG SUCKS BECAUSE IT GETS BEAT BY A TRUCK THAT BEATS THE HELL OUT OF ANY OF THE MUSTANGS COMPETITION YEA BUT GOOD POINT
Well I think that this 93 muskrat #%$ can go shove his little 210-215 hp. 5.0 piece of shit up his ass, I got my 1999 SS camaro about 3 weeks ago and all that i have done is exhaust, K&N induction kit, and headers. Well about a week after I got it my friend wanted to race me in his 1994 5.0 GT that has almost every bolt on part possible and has fiberglass fenders and hood. So we raced and i ended up killing his sorry ass piece of shit down the road by a good 300 feet before the road ended and turned up our hill to head back home. Back at my place even he admitted to getting his sorry ass kicked by me, kinda funny considering how much money he put into that slow rig of his when I only have a few minor bolt on parts. So a word of advice to all of the 5.0 owners or cobra owners...... Take your heads out of your asses and buy something worth your time! like a camaro. Oh and #$%# Henry Ford up the ass, he did no good with his pathetic cars......
Damn i am laughin my ass off here seriously! To say a 99 ss can beat any 5 liter out there is not only ridiculous but just plain stupid. I am a big fan of the ss but I dont know if u have noticed but ford's 302 has been around for a LONG time and the aftermarket is huge. by the way i doubt your friend has basically every bolt on possible. for far less than 20 grand anyone can put together a 5.0 that would absolutely rape your ss. buy a 6000 5.0...bolt on a vortech s-trim, a set of higher flowing heads, an intake, a higher lift cam, some steeper gears, and some sticky tires and u got a car that would easily beat your ss. maybe you should research more about the cars that u so easily insult.
stangman, i don't know what lightning you're looking at, but the ones that ford makes run 0-60 in around 5.5 if they're lucky...a stock corvette, not even a z06 runs it in around 4.75 and a camaro z28 runs it in around 5.5...and anyway, even if you were right and the lightning would be faster than those cars (like if a 6 year old was driving the corvette and mario andretti was driving the lightning), then that would just make the mustang look like more garbage because it gets beat by a truck and by all of its competition...but on the other side, mustangs are good cars because they are affordable and are very popular...plus, they will still be in production next year while the camaro and firebird will not...they just can't match up performance-wise with camaro, etc.
and for the bad ass who claims he just got his camaro ss...you gotta be an idiot...why would you put for your name, 99z28ss? an ss is different from a z28...it's not a camaro z28 ss...it's simply a camaro ss...what i'm thinking is this kid is like 14 years old and knows nothing about cars...not to mention that he thinks that henry ford is an idiot...not like the guy practically invented cars or anything (and for any other stupid people out there, i know that he didn't actually invent cars, he just made them readily available to a lot of people).