Re: it will break down

Discussion in '2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept' started by z28infront, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. THE BOTTOM LINE IS: THE Z28 IS FASTER AND CHEAPER THAN THE GT. THE SS IS FASTER AN CHEAPER THAN THE COBRA. THE Z06 IS FASTER AND CHEAPER THAN THE COBRA -R. AND ITS NORMALLY ASPIRED SO IT WILL DEF. LAST LONGER. BOTH MUSTANGS AND CAM'S HAVE TERRIBLE RELAIBLITY, BUT THE MORE POWER U MAKE, THE MORE UNRELIABLE IT IS. JUST A FACT OF LIFE. AND WE DRIVE THEM HARD TOO... HEHEHEHE... AND CAMAROS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FASTER THAN STANGS.
    AND SINCE WE GOT AN EXTRA 1.1 LITERS EVERY MOD WE DO WILL GIVE US MORE POWER THAN IT GIVES YOU.

    AND DON'T GIMME THIS CRAP ABOUT US "CHEATING" CUZ WE GOT AN EXTRA LITER... YOU HAVE DOHC! EVEN A MUSTANG MAGAZINE SAID THE SS WAS RUNNING 12.9'S IN 100 DEGREE HEAT AND HUMIDITY. IT WAS ROASTING THIER BULLIT AND COBRA AND THEY WERE "SAD TO ADMIT IT."
    MUSTANGS ARE GREAT, CAMAROS ARE JUST BETTER.

    IT DON'T MATTER HOW IT GETS ACROSS THE LINE, AS LONG AS IT DOES IT FASTER AND CHEAPER<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. well said and like i said before,in a mustang you have to shut off
    the A/C and the radio when going over a hill
     
  3. That "our tools would rust" has always been for ford not chevy, you cant turn it around.
     
  4. chevy rocks ford,dodge & you suck compar a 2002 mustang
    to a 2002 corvette then will se how suck<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. bucknutz i take that as an insalt im 13 and i know more
    about cars then you email me and find out <!-- Signature -->
     
  6. all cars have their advantages and disadvantages.... I was under the impression that the strre leagal camaro that ran 7.2 at 178 was the fastest street leagal car to date. not some mustang....

    The camaro guy that said compare any Z28 to a mustang GT of the same year and the camaro will win. ( mabye on exception in the late 80's)
    cobra VS SS same resaults. Cobra R VS Z06 same resaults. Not to mention in almost all catagories the camaro gets BETTER gas milage..

    Camaros also handle much better. anyone who wants to race a mustang on a road trach has to update their suspenstion, it would cost over 6000 just to upgrade to the double a arm / panhard setup that the camaro already has. I helped a friend write a paper and we compared the 2 cars in every way....

    Looks of course and interior comfort are a matter of opnion and cannot be rated. But the one place the mustang won. Price.

    And thats why it outsells the camaro. thats why they have stopped production till at least 2005. but the camaro will be back. <!-- Signature -->
     
  7. No bucknutz, heres a little info

    True bucknutz, in the older days the SS camaro was not a Z28. But now it is. It is the Camaro Z28 with the SS performance package. All chevy does is send a predetermined amount of Z28's to a company by the name of Berger where suspension and engine modifications are performed. So think twice before you talk Sh1T, *****.
     
  8. Damn, AtnbUSA, you beat me to it.

    Yeah bucknutz, made them readily available, invinted mass production.

     
  9. Not to mention the mustang has always been driverly friendly in mind thats why when chevy came out with the camaro to battle the mustang they used a bigger engine so they could say i go faster, but in reality all that matters in the end is sales and well sorry chevy peeps but mustangs always outsell camaros and firebirds....

    in fact in 00 the mustang sold 350,000+ by its self the camaro/firebird/corvette all combined together only sold 325,000

    so its no wonder why they have discontinued it, and as for camaro coming back im sorry to say the mustang will rape it then stock for one reason, chevy now has one sports car the vette and ford already is planning to beaf up the mustang so the gt is the base not the v-6 one the cobra will be beafed up and sold the same but for less and a new mustang is in line to sell as the ultimate mustang to compete and keep up with the vette if not beat it...so while ur camaro comes out in 2005 the mustang will be steped up and competing with the vette not the camaro

    and well a 5.7 liter should push way more than 305hp my old stock chevy 350 truck is pumping out 345hp and its a 73, looks like chevy is going backwards...and well with 1.1 more liters ford would beat the chevy for reasons of it beaing quicker from 0-30 right now and is also lighter...

    also the camaro does not handle better than the mustang in fact the camaro is always known to slip and get loose in the corners while the mustangs hold true to its line...the vette on the other hand is way more stable...but thats another topic now is it...

    and yes the lightning kicks all mustangs camaros and vettes butts (except the z06), but come on guys thats a truck with a very small supercharger and it tows 8000 pounds and runs 12.8 1/4 mile times and 5.1 0-60, and oh i believe the z28 runs 0-60 in 6.7 not 5.5 becuz if it did thats a normal vettes time not the z28's and well ur only 5.1 off a porshe boxster that well sorry will kick the shit out of ur car and well lets just say its a 4 banger

    any how the mustang doesnt care if it looses by a few seconds, the fact is it outsells the camaro big time, and

    actualy the steeda q mustang went 0-150-0 in 24 secs name a camaro thats street legal and comfortable for under 40k that can do that in fact it even beat the 650 viper hennasey for 0-150-0, and the steeda q holds the fastest time at the nevada open road challenge avg speed of 193 and a top speed of 225, and yes the course has turns also

    so chevy boys start reading up on ur own cars before u knock on someone elses cars, also know alittle about the car and reason for it being before u knock it down or u will be showed up in every way possible

    "Ass Cash or Grass dont matter this rides not for free",
    FORD RACING MOTORSPORTS
     
  10. have you lost you little mind a mustang will never be fast it will still be the same big uglt road boat its been for the past 70 years oh and the vette dose the word tigershark spark anything well if you ford F&ggs thought the ZO6 was god wait till 2003. Second camaro cost 30k up a mustang cost 20k and its the slowest thing you ever driven .Third
    if your a ford fan why dosen't ford ever win le mans championchip
    mmmmmmmm i guess the saleen to slow to compete and why did chevy whopass at the 24 hours of le mans and the rolex 24 and why did chevy dominate nascar and why has ford yet to come out with a car that can crack 12secs in the 1/4 sooooooo take your horse and shuve it up your asssss
     
  11. Well the saleen beat the c5r vette by two laps in the opening race and for lemans accidents do happen and well they knocked out the two competing cars...and as for saleen they win almost every year with their saleen SR, i think its 5 championships in 7yrs not to bad and in fact the best...and as for nascar, dude do u even watch it, ford is always winning the manufactures championship, u dumb git...also if ford was so bad why was chevy complaning that it was loosing when ford came one two three in nascar with a 4-door sedan while chevy was using a 2-door...oh well i guess chevy aint nuttin but whinners, and also even after they took stuff away from ford they still win the cup aint that the shit

    and ur v-6 camaro makes 200hp not 270hp as someone said earlier, wow dumb as*es realy do drive chevy's...and well a mustang can beat a vette does the word roush stage 3 come to mind...plus a vette is a two seater with a bigger engine and the mustang is a 5 seater with a smaller engine...oh well

    any how yea the mustang is 10k less and only .3 secs off the camaro add 10k to mods and well the vette gets beat and add another 15k to equal a vette cost and well that 20k mustang just became a 10sec drag/street car but then again chevy has always been overpriced pos

    plus the mustang saleen s396 runs the 1/4 in 11.6, the s351 does it in mid 12's and both are still cheaper than a z06 damn that sucks dont it...

    the camaro is a freakin plastic dart on wheels while the mustang is true to its pony roots of the 60's

    so in all catagories chevy looses and u still like them wow u are a dumb git after all arnt u, plus the c5r is a 500k mod to a z06 vette just to make it fast enough and event then the s7r beats it up and is less and doesnt need any real fancy mods like the vette needed...but then again thats why it lapped second place c5r twice in the opener and won in other races as well recks disabled it from beatin up chevy at the two races u mentioned
     
  12. recheck your info cause its wrong
     
  13. NO STOCK Crustank can beat a STOCK equivalent GM F-Body (Camaro/Trans-am). The V6 Mustang is slower than the V6 F-bodies & the Crustank cost more than the Camaro. The GT is WAY slower than the Z28 or Trans-am & again, cost more. The Slowbra is slower than the SS or Ram-air and cost way more. The Slobra R is about equal wit a Corvette Z06 but cost almost twice as much & they only made 300 Slobra Rs. As for Ford lovers saying that GM uses a 5.7 & Ford has a 4.8, Audi has a 2.0 that pushes 300hp. Bring u're exuse sumplace else. Yes this is the last year for a great car. That just means Ford will have to work harder cause Mustang is thier top sports car, Camaro was Chevy's second. You still have the Vette to beat
     
  14. Well, in 2003, for that last model year of the current Mustang, Ford SVT will be producing a 400hp+ Mustang with a **4.6L**. So far its codename is the Terminator, that might even be its production name. After this, Ford is bringing back the 5.0L. Can't wait... too bad the "Godly" camaro won't be around. Or will it?
     
  15. Cars break down because thier owners cant take care of them.

    There is such a thing as bad engineering, but more often its lack of maintenance.<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. s396 was made back in 1995 or 96 cant remember but will find out for u, made for one year did 11's 1/4 miles under 4 secs 0-60 bad ass car, beat everything except the million dollar jaguar

    anyhow down here at the two for dealers who are ceritfied by saleen/roush/svt/steeda, have half-dozen s281 for 29k-32k and 2 s351's for 37-39k thank u very much and well the roush stage 3 is selling for 37-39k as well from the two dealers thank u very much and well sonny the roush they used to test against the vette was a convertible version, heavier and slower than the hard top, and lost to the vette by .1 in 0-60 and .3 in the 1/4 the hard top does the same times and if not beats it

    but since these numbers are so close it really depends on the driver and the vette z06 costs 49k-52k here

    and well saleen had accidents at lemans that prevented their cars from racing, and well they have won many times over ur c5r vette and its their first year out unlike ur c5r, first year is supposed to be spent loosing and learning for the next year the year every one really cares about

    and well for saleen winning its remarkable for a "test car", being made within 7 months not being able to full test it and well has beet the c5r in many ways

    so no my figures are not wrong, thank u very much
     
  17. sorry but you ssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
     
  18. Tubbed and narrowed, not composite body, and yes, that is street legal. And I think you're looking up the wrong class; I have a magazine here (Car Craft) in which a car enthusiast drives his low-7 second '73 Challenger to Dairy Queen w/ his daughter regularly and races at the track AS IS, no modifications.
     
  19. yea evilninja i think they might have been used i dont know i will ask the sales guy, Roush's go for cheap here, msrp is for the whole usa and well we get good deals here, and the roush 3 did the 1/4 in 12.6 by some tests but oh well thats besides the point...

    i checked on the s396 as well and nothing on the net, but i can remember a article in a car magazine mentioning it in a article about a number of tests done to over 25 "super Cars", it was 5 pages long and it mentioned the s396 as one of the contenders on the last page and the times i posted about it is wat the times i can remember, it was like 3 yrs ago,

    but i dont know it might have been a s351 and had a 396 engine put in just for this test and for all i know it could have been the only s396 out there but i get bet my life on its existence somewhere

    um...yea the s351 was a 99 i believe to the best of my knowledge had has had 5k miles put on it, i will check back tommorow for i go over there to pick up my car....god i love my car to bad it was in for a pressure plate malfunction :(, but its fixed now <IMG SRC="http://www.supercarforums.com/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

    yea the price i believe was either 39k-41k somewhere right in that range,
     
  20. Re: fords are faster

    I just read this message about John Force having the highest top speed in a 1/4 mile in a Mustang. How stupid are you? The only thing that makes that car a Mustang is the fiberglass body on top with a horse painted on the front. It being a Mustang has absolutely nothing to do with it. There are no ford engine parts in that car. Mustangs are pure shit. CHEVY ROCKS!!!!<!-- Signature -->
     
  21. i hate cock teasing cars, they should just make them, the internet u can find anything, yea right now there is a oxymoron
     
  22. all funny cars and top fuels all run 426hemi blocks there;s nothing ford about john forces car execpt the ugly mustang body



    so he can thank dodge for that record
     
  23. uhm im not on a side here...
    but I never see mustangs as beat up and run down as the camaros I see going around. Maybe its not that Chevy can't make the car hold together... maybe Mustang people are better car people. Either way, Chevy people: you're camaro isnt supposed to have red house paint on the driver door, primer on the passenger side, rust on the rear quater and the origional paint on the roof. It is supposed to be one color.<!-- Signature -->
     
  24. the red on the door from where i ran over your candy ass
     
  25. I bet this car can't turn.<!-- Signature -->
     

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