Re: It's almost comedy, Mustangs are the downfall to the America

Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1' started by PGT, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. I hope the Camaro and Firebird come back! I'm not too fond of Mustangs and I dont like the idea that they might be the only pony cars left.<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. c-6 in comming out in 2004 as well.
     
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    <b>speedster must be smoking crack, for doesn't build a vehicle right now that will get into the same ball park as the Z06 C5 Corvette. and if you consider drivability, ford is severly lacking. oh, by the way speedster, sorry to hear you own a GT, why don't you try and race the next camaro, trans am, corvette, or even nissan maxima (yes, it will beat you) you pull up next to, try not to cry when they pass you.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Actually they won't be passing him they will take him off the line and rip him a new one the rest of the way unless the guy in the Trans is toying with him
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    I guess you know then that the firebird and camaro ss are around $11,000 more than right! Pretty impressive for a car that cost $11,000 more to out run a mustnag gt. Go head and give yourself a pat on the back, you deserve it. Just wait though, the 2003 cobra cost around $30,000, and it has around 390hp (really more like 420hp). Est quarter mile times are mid 12's, sorry maybe you guys really should'nt be patting each other on the back. Maybe you should go out and buy a new stang so you can keep up. Oh thats right if you want a mucsle car you need to buy a mustang cause they are the only ones left.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->But how soon you forget that the Camaro will be back in 2005 and well i hate to break it to you buddy but i own a 94 trans Am and i got it for get this 7900 and well i will smoke every new mustang gt sitting at the light. Goes to show that i can take that pat on the back i think i deserve it. I will also have you know that i own a 71 mach 1 and with mustang the only way to goes is back cuz once they hit that gay fox body style they were shitty and you can spread that around cuz im not kidding.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I own two so called shitty f-body mustangs. I bought an 86 with 57,000 miles for 3200 dollars. I have spent about 3,200 on the car including 3.77 gears headers, off road h-pipe, 2 1/2 flowmaster cat back, short throw, K&N, and upper and lower holley manifolds, and world products cylinder heads. With all this and for a total of about 6,800 bucks i gurantee i will smoke your trans am and many vettes unless you have not left it stock, and dont worry about mustangs not keeping up because it is hard to find a stock one running around. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    thats all good, but you didn't tell us any numbers? my chevelle (which I bought for 200$, yes 200) will run 0-70 in about 5 flat. I have never lost on the street, including a few mustangs, both stock (cobra and gt)and modified. The closest races I've had were with Harley motorcycles (they exceeded the speed limit alot in order to win, I won't speed too much, but I beat them to 55 or so) and a SS camaro (1996, i think). I can't wait till the 2003 'king' cobra comes to the road so i can see how that does too. I am not trying to make fun of mustangs, I think making them faster is good so I'll actually have some competition (smoking civics gets old after awhile); and I also don't mean to claim that my car is the best or anything like that, I know that there are lots of guys that can probably beat me, I just haven't met any yet.
     
  4. #4 Vette_Pro, Aug 9, 2002
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    You are so dumb like car and driver compared the Viper Vette and the Cobra R and ill admit that the Viper and Vette were better in a stright line but when they went through the road course the Cobra R won hands down, So that means that the Cobra R has better handeling.
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    It won hands down in the road course? LOL, you need to actually start reading articles. Heres a direct quote:

    "The Cobra returned the highest lateral acceleration on the skidpad (0.99 g) but the lowest lap time (1:38.7 at 92.1 mph vs. the Corvette's 1:36.3 at 95.4 mph and the Viper's 1:34.9 at 96.7 mph)."
    http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/comparisontests/2001/February/200102_comparisontest_yankeeboomers.xml?&page=2

    As you can see, the Corvette was easily superior by a good amount to the Stang.
     
  5. speedster must be smoking crack, for doesn't build a vehicle right now that will get into the same ball park as the Z06 C5 Corvette. and if you consider drivability, ford is severly lacking. oh, by the way speedster, sorry to hear you own a GT, why don't you try and race the next camaro, trans am, corvette, or even nissan maxima (yes, it will beat you) you pull up next to, try not to cry when they pass you.
     
  6. It's almost comedy, Mustangs are the downfall to the American Ec

    My question is why? Why does Ford continue to roll out with this retarded designs? Has anyone every driven the new Mustangs? Yes, they are an improvement, but what car now a days doesn't improve upon itself. I can't even explain my annoyance I have with Fords idea of so called "sports car". I am an owner of a Corvette C5. I went to look at the new mustangs and get over my discrimination state with Ford. I knew that that car would measure up to my Corvette. The sales person said, "Give her for a spin, you'd be surprized". So I did. And yes i sure was surprized. It just added fuel to my raging fire against Mustangs. It didn't even hold a candle. Not in any sense! It was exactly the same feeling I get when I drive my Dodge Ram. Not fun at all!! Your cramped inside, the windshield is hard to see out of if your tall like me, and it is so underpowered, that you just want to not give it any gas and save yourself the embarrassment.<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. bullshit__ the cobra will stomp the corvette, i bet you havent even drove one because if you have youd sure remember the sweet powerful ride it provides . Im not saying the mustang is complete crap im saying its nothing compared to the vette. It sits down with the dodge viper...another disgrace.
     
  8. It will beat a vette, thats what ford said with the cobra R, and did that work? nope not even close. The stang, if it is faster than the vette, will get its ass stomped on the track because it cant handle like the vette.

    But like any of this matters, the two are not even in the same class and the vette is getting a entirely new face in 2004 anyway.

    The comparison between vette and mustang isnt the smartest on e to make, but it is an interesting one. BUt i do believe that the weight difference and better drag coefficient, along with other factors will result in a win for the vette anyway
     
  9. the vettes faster but twice as expensive, this car rocks, yall just dont like it because it would kill your vw golfs an holda civics.
     
  10. Re: It's almost comedy, GM loses their Camaros/Firebirds and now

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    <b>My question is why? Why does Ford continue to roll out with this retarded designs? Has anyone every driven the new Mustangs? Yes, they are an improvement, but what car now a days doesn't improve upon itself. I can't even explain my annoyance I have with Fords idea of so called "sports car". I am an owner of a Corvette C5. I went to look at the new mustangs and get over my discrimination state with Ford. I knew that that car would measure up to my Corvette. The sales person said, "Give her for a spin, you'd be surprized". So I did. And yes i sure was surprized. It just added fuel to my raging fire against Mustangs. It didn't even hold a candle. Not in any sense! It was exactly the same feeling I get when I drive my Dodge Ram. Not fun at all!! Your cramped inside, the windshield is hard to see out of if your tall like me, and it is so underpowered, that you just want to not give it any gas and save yourself the embarrassment.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Mustang isn't a sport car, you know that.

    The REAL american sports car is called VIPER.

    But any of them (Mustangs, Vettes, Vipers) have their own price cetegory. I'm sure you know that, too.

    The best price/performance is a Mustang

    Now with the 2003 Cobra and Mach 1 you'll see what will happen..GM will be forced to put down Vette prices...or build a better one.

    Mustangs were never made to beat vettes...but since camaro is out...watch out GM ! I think we're really close !!<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. 0-60 in 1.9? I smell bull sh*t, a big crock of it. I love mustangs and vipers and vetts too, i love any performance car. You guys need to remember thats like comparing a mustang to a civic, of course the mustang will win, nut there not in the same catagory, a mustang and a camerro, but not a vett. <!-- Signature -->
     
  12. The best bang for the buck is by far the Corvette; ask anyone who knows anything about cars. But the mustang is just fine for the guy who wants a nice cruiser with decent performance. It cannot, however, be placed in the same class as the 'vette, not even the Mach 1 or the massively over-hyped Cobra R. I mean hell, even though they weren't selling very well the Camaro and the Trans-Am were better sportscars than the 'stang. They were faster and handled better, hell even the Civic Si was almost as fast as the Mustang in '98 (the 'stang GT had the 215 hp V8 and went 0-60 in 6.9 while the Civic Si went 0-60 in 7.1). I have some respect for the Mustang just because of what it was in the past and what it's trying to be again, but Ford has yet to get the pieces all right since the late sixties. It definitely can't be put in the same class as the 'vette, that's for damn sure.
     
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    <b>the vettes faster but twice as expensive, this car rocks, yall just dont like it because it would kill your vw golfs an holda civics.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Put me in a 1992 GTi 16v Golf, and give me the price difference and we will see what happens.<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. Don't worry about GM, they're still going strong. Camaros are going away, but thankfully, they're coming back in a few years. The Camaro plant is out of date and needs to be re-tooled, then they'll be back out strong. Firebirds are staying as far as I knew, and the Corvette is still a huge hit. There's a C6 prototype in the works right now, look forward to seeing it an three or four years. Ford will never get the hang of it, never. They've been chasing GM since the 60's and keep falling farther behind. You'd think that this multimillion dollar company would just get tired of falling short that they'd just go all out and whoop on GM, but...<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. hey cruisin101 your #$%#en wrong, a mustang does not compare to the viper. A mustang has around 300 hp and the viper as around 460.
     
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    <b>Don't worry about GM, they're still going strong. Camaros are going away, but thankfully, they're coming back in a few years. The Camaro plant is out of date and needs to be re-tooled, then they'll be back out strong. Firebirds are staying as far as I knew, and the Corvette is still a huge hit. There's a C6 prototype in the works right now, look forward to seeing it an three or four years. Ford will never get the hang of it, never. They've been chasing GM since the 60's and keep falling farther behind. You'd think that this multimillion dollar company would just get tired of falling short that they'd just go all out and whoop on GM, but...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Sadly the firebird is dead with it's broter the camaro. We won't get another 'bird, not for a long time. But the GTO is coming soon, via holden monaro,(spelling?). Holden's will be imported to the n.a. market in quite a few gm forms. Thank goodness. We need more ass wheel drives. Listen, for now, the mustang is the best thing ford has for us. and I'm sorry to say it's way behind the best of the other two from detroit, but the gt40, now that it's approved for production, will be kicking a few vettes and vipers. Ford needs a real sports car.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Speedster</i>
    <b>Well, as the proud owner of a 2000 Mustang GT I can truthfully say that you obviously dont have a clue. Ive driven many different cars before and this mustang is one of my favorites. I like corvettes but you might want to check out the 2003 cobra. That will stomp the living crap out of you puny vette. Only little boys wear bowties!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Oh my god,

    What in the blue hell is the matter with you??
    Did you know that the GT in the cheapest and weakest mustang there is?
    The mustang wont stand a chance against ANY vette.
    I doubt that it can even beat a camaro.
    If anyone on this forum has read the forum I put out a few weeks ago, it's people like this guy that started my little argument. The mustang cobra is a piece of shit. I see about 40 of them each day. The only mustang that comes anywhere near the Vette is the Roush Premium Stage 3 mustang (which is the only mustang i like)<!-- Signature -->
     
  18. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from CorvetteZO6</i>
    <b>The best bang for the buck is by far the Corvette; ask anyone who knows anything about cars. But the mustang is just fine for the guy who wants a nice cruiser with decent performance. It cannot, however, be placed in the same class as the 'vette, not even the Mach 1 or the massively over-hyped Cobra R. I mean hell, even though they weren't selling very well the Camaro and the Trans-Am were better sportscars than the 'stang. They were faster and handled better, hell even the Civic Si was almost as fast as the Mustang in '98 (the 'stang GT had the 215 hp V8 and went 0-60 in 6.9 while the Civic Si went 0-60 in 7.1). I have some respect for the Mustang just because of what it was in the past and what it's trying to be again, but Ford has yet to get the pieces all right since the late sixties. It definitely can't be put in the same class as the 'vette, that's for damn sure. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I have to agree with you on that. Mustangs and Vettes are not in the same category. If you have the kind of money to buy a $50,000 car then the corvette is the best bang for the buck. But if your spending margin is in the $20,000 margin, then a mustang is a good choice. And then again there are those die hard mustang fans that have a $50,000 spending budget. For those guys there is the Steeda Mustang which pushes well over 400plus HP. or the Saleen S351 with 495 HP or the saleen S281E which pushes the HP envelope up to 425HP.
    I must admit that the new SVT Cobra pushing 400HP is a really good deal for just $30,000. Its not just a HP increase but also suspension and overall performance. I really do hope that the Corvette does not go down under like the camaro/firebird/trans did.
     
  19. i don't really see how ppl can start comparing things like saleens...its tuned ffs

    z06 vette stomps all over the top of the line ford mustang.. even the svt's (which is semi tuned..probly comparable to wot GM did inhouse with the z06..)..which is why the GT40 needs some balls (which i think its got to have, since ford are trying to produce it at all.. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
  20. I dont see the Vette goin under anytime soon. They have been recognized as one of the best bangs for the buck a few years running. Its a great overall car for a great price, GM has their crap together w/ this car. As far as the SVT Cobra, is still dont think it could take a vette, but for the price it should do allright. Maybe Ford can steal some of GM's cookies when they release the GT40... we shall see<!-- Signature -->
     
  21. #21 TASwim05, Aug 9, 2002
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    Well, even though I do think Mustangs are pretty good, and have a great heritage and all, there aren't any that can compare to the Corvette. I don't think they pose any threat to the Corvette Z06, because, let's face it, this is a car that performs better than the Porsche 911 Carrera, and Acura NSX (if you don't believe me, go to http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/roadtests/articledisplay.asp?articleid=55). And I believe that the Camaro will come back in a couple of years, something I'm personally looking forward to.
     
  22. This is for the numb nuts that was comparing vettes to a viper, and saying that the viper was crap. Are you insane, a viper would kill a corvette, hands down. I know that the price difference is pretty great, but dont compare them jack ass. The highest level corvette would get smoked by a viper, and a hennessy viper would wipe its ass with any corvette.

    And for the people comparing civics and shit to american muscle cars, that is retarted. They are all supercharged. Hell, ill got supercharge a metro, wut do u thing about that.
     
  23. first, the z06 does not wipe the vipers ass, sorry. It does get beat though. But if you want to talk about the hennessey vipers then talk about the lingenfelter vettes, then you have a comparrison. As for mustang vs vette, vette vs viper, none of them are eaqual, but they (all three) are what we americans have in the sports car mainstream market, and there for are comparable, and the comparison goes like this (for the 2003 market year -excluding camaro/firebird in otherwords):

    List of American sports cars in order of performance levels:
    1. Dodge Viper
    2. Chevrolet corvette (Z06 and otherwise)
    3. Ford Mustang (all variations)

    List of American sports cars in order of price:
    1. Dodge Viper
    2. Chevrolet Corvette
    3. Ford Mustang

    Does everyone understand the trend? OK!
     
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    <b>Well, as the proud owner of a 2000 Mustang GT I can truthfully say that you obviously dont have a clue. Ive driven many different cars before and this mustang is one of my favorites. I like corvettes but you might want to check out the 2003 cobra. That will stomp the living crap out of you puny vette. Only little boys wear bowties!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Dum ASs, do some research before you post. The 2003 svt, can't beat the corvette coupe model. LOL The svt is like 400 lb heavier then the vette. While it does have 390 hp the weight of the car, holds it down.
    Also it will never handle like the vette. Dude, all I have to say is STFU , if you don't know what your saying. Another thing, the 2003 svt has a supercharger in it, its not raw power like the vettes 5.7 v-8.

    2003 svt - 0-60 4.8-4.9
    2002 Corvette coupe-0-60 4.4-4.5
     
  25. The 2003 Cobra is awsome with 390hp but it can't hang with the new Corvette Z06. The Z06 is a true world class sports car. My Cadillac ETC with 300 hp now up to 330 with a K&N filter charger and Bosch P 4 spark plugs can take a new Mustang GT. I think ford will get it right with the next generation car. Hell! they are going to build the GT40 how sweet is that!?
     

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