Re: McLaren F1 GT Forum rulez all.. even ferrari, lambourginhi,

Discussion in '1997 McLaren F1 GT' started by dusty427, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. Hennessey Venom 800tt: 830+ hp, 950+ lb-ft of torque, 1.05 on the skidpad, 0-60 in 2.7, 0-100 in 6, 0-100-0 in 9.9, Big ol' V10,$150,000, cant beat that price w/ an exotic!

    McLaren F1: 630 hp, 450 lb-ft of torque (the Vette ZO6 has that), 0-60 in 3.1, AND IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE ITS OWN ENGINE (bmw engine for those who didnt already know) and the cost (almost 7 times the Hennessey's cost) $1,000,000+ by the time your done.

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  2. Average? what are you on? the trick, people, is to make it go fast for a little bit of money, not alot of cash, any idiot can do that. The Viper ACR ($85,000) is the only car under $100,000 to go 200 mph BONE STOCK. The mclaren, and its peanut V12 doesnt put out any torque. Chevy 350's put out more torque than that, and it costs about $3,500. even the viper engine costs about $9,000 to replace. I wouldnt doubt that the cost of that BMW ENGINE costs close to $50,000 to replace once it blows up. This car has a name, thats it.<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. Ooooh, don't attack me w/ the Viper. I'm so scared. It is average, there's nothing special about the Viper except that it has a lot of horsepower. Period. I'd take a Corvette over a Viper any day because the Corvette actually has class, reliability, and handling. Does the Viper have class? Hell no. Reliability? Not really. Handling? Hahahahahahahahaha. Any company could put in that much power, the trick is to harness it for more than doing donuts and going in a straight line.
     
  4. hey, stupid, for your information, the viper pulls better time in the slalom and posts the same scores on the skidpad. In case you didnt notice my name dustyd427!!!!, im a huge vette fan. And whats this CRAP about reliability, viper engines run around in heavy duty trucks all day. im sorry if you feel the need to bash a car you know nothing about, but stick to things you know, its obviously not cars.<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. finally

    finally someone realizes what ive been saying, there are plenty of cars that are faster and are CHEAPER!!!!<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. So you're trying to tell me that Viper engines are very reliable? Next thing you know, you'll be saying that Viper engines are of the same build quality as Mercedes, BMW, or Toyota. And if they're so reliable, how come I hear of Vipers breaking down all the time from my dad's friend who used to WORK at a Dodge dealership? I don't know sh|t about cars? You're right, I don't know sh|t compared to a lot of the guyz on here. But I know the Viper engine isn't all that reliable, so you keep thinking it is. I mean, it might be, but it definitely can't handle the way most people who have Vipers drive, which is something Dodge should deal w/. Vipers aren't exactly babied most of the time, so if Dodge would actually made an engine that can take a beating every once in a while, I wouldn't be arguing. You've driven a Corvette and so have I. I've also driven a Viper. The Viper is SCARY to drive and even scarier to be a passenger in. It's got so much oversteer, you could do donuts in third(Probably, I haven't tried that). So don't try to tell me that it handles well w/ that much oversteer. Hell, I could barely keep it on the road driving the speed limit when I hit a sharp corner. Absolutely no sense of confidence in its ability to go where I want it to go. Or maybe I don't know how to drive even though I put over 55,000 km on my car last year and 90% of that wasn't from going to work and school. It was from going around on winding country roads in excess of 100 km/h in my Suzuki w/o a single accident. Ever try to make a Swift oversteer? That's how I drive on those roads. How's the Corvette to drive? Nice, right? Exactly. BTW, Slalom tests prove what can be done w/ the car, not what will most likely happen w/ the car(As in spinning, spinning, & more spinning). The Viper 800TT smoking the McLaren GT(Or any race car, for that matter)? I'd love to see that.
     
  7. #32 dusty427, Aug 10, 2002
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  8. I may be new to cars and all that but their is one thing that is common sense MCLAREN RULZ ALL their is no better car and their wont be for awhile even if it doesnt have its own motor the point is it is still the best and at 240mph the car should not need explaining as to why it is #1.
     
  9. OK, whatever, I don't know sh|t about Vipers. I only know what my dad's friend tells me. I've run out of sh|t to argue w/ so I'm dropping out. You win. I need to learn sh|t now, thanx.
     
  10. more ignorance. At least one person realized that. Hey buddy, take a look at the Venom 800tt, then come back. Thats a 237 mph car that costs less than $155,000.<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. Anyone who now doesnt believe that Vipers and Venoms are among the worlds greatest cars, is on crack. But there is one engine that i think is better, its the Chevy small block 350. Thats a great engine. Any of you who havent driven a Camaro ro a Vette (Especially Europeans), drive one as soon as you can. Those are "Great Eights."<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. I'm not on crack, but I think you are now. I said you win and you call me ignorant? Vipers definitely aren't the worlds greatest cars, but I'm not going to argue that because I don't know sh|t about Vipers. I know just enough to know they aren't THE best. Maybe in their category, but no way in hell the best overall.
     
  13. How am I ignorant exactly? I said you win, phuck. Maybe you're just ignoring my white flag which would make you ignorant.

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  14. not you thugz, that speedviper guy, he needs to look at the car his name is named after, speedviper, look @ the 800tt, then come back.<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. Hey thanks dusty427, you knocked a little sense into me but i still like the Mclaren GT BUT IT IS NO LONGER NO.1 it is #3
     
  16. now about that car that you told me to check out, who is it made by?
     
  17. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Mikeyouse</i>
    <b>The Viper's 0-60 time is WITH SLICKS ON A RACING TRACK. You couldnt go out on the road and pull off a sub-3 second 0-60, but with this car, its not only possible, its easy.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Even though I still say this is better than the Viper 800TT, it wouldn't win in a drag. And it would almost definitely pull off sub 3-second 0-60 times on the road w/ street tires.

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  18. Speedviper, its made by Dodge and Modified by Hennessey Motor Sports. And for the other guys Info, the Venom has the edge IN EVERY STATISTICAL CATEGORY EXEPT PRICE. Even with street tires it goes in 2.7, the McLaren in 3.2. I'll give you the price, and there isnt anyone on this site who can honestly say that price doesnt matter, unless Bill Gates is on this site, and he drives a Cadillac, not a McLaren. I dont make that much in relation to Doctors, Lawyers, etc. but i have driven the vast majority of these Cars. Next week an 800tt comes in because the guy wants us to increase the pressure of his turbines, why he would want more power is beyond anything my wildest dreams. Im extremely exited because I have never driven one before. This guy WILL be driving a faster car than John Hennessey himself, but i guess the customer is always right ($5,000 USD on top of the $ he already paid for the car)!<!-- Signature -->
     
  19. Inform us of how it goes afterwards, you lucky bastard. I'd work on cars if I could to get to drive the sweet ones. Oh well, I'll just stick w/ systems.
     
  20. Hey can you guys give me some tips on becoming a mechanic like what courses, ect. because right now im pretty much devoting everything i got to cars and learning how to fix them so i decided to go for being a mechanic.
     
  21. i remember a quote describing the McLaren GTs acceleration in comparison to the Venom 800tt, the Viper is Fast but is nothing compared to the Mclarens warp drive, i doubt the Viper is as fast accelerating as the Mclaren F1 GT or even within a footbal pitch of the TVR Cebera Speed 12, that car is just sick

    talk about power to weight ratio and acceleration, it is just nuts

    PWR(power to weight ratio)
    Venom 800tt............503bhp per ton
    Mclaren F1 GT..........514bhp per ton
    TVR Cebera Speed 12....800bhp per ton

    who do u think will win????????????????????????????????????<!-- Signature -->
     
  22. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from snyper</i>
    <b>i remember a quote describing the McLaren GTs acceleration in comparison to the Venom 800tt, the Viper is Fast but is nothing compared to the Mclarens warp drive, i doubt the Viper is as fast accelerating as the Mclaren F1 GT or even within a footbal pitch of the TVR Cebera Speed 12, that car is just sick

    talk about power to weight ratio and acceleration, it is just nuts

    PWR(power to weight ratio)
    Venom 800tt............503bhp per ton
    Mclaren F1 GT..........514bhp per ton
    TVR Cebera Speed 12....800bhp per ton

    who do u think will win????????????????????????????????????</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->ME
     
  23. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from speedviper87</i>
    <b>Hey can you guys give me some tips on becoming a mechanic like what courses, ect. because right now im pretty much devoting everything i got to cars and learning how to fix them so i decided to go for being a mechanic.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I can give you tips on building a sound system in your car, but that's about it. Meh-can-iks? What's that?
     
  24. THE SPEED 12 IS NOT A PRODUCTION CAR, GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. THE 800TT IS FASTER IN EVERY ASPECT OF PERFORMANCE THAN THE US VERSION MCLAREN.<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. listen up dustbin427, the viper is fast,with slicks. you would take a supped up $70,000 twin turbo AMERICAN car over a BMW V12 in a McLaren? The only good american cars that are hookes up are made by lingenfelter, the vettes are 8 times better. put the viper on the track, it would get eaten alive by a McLaren. the viper has barely if any handling to begin with, and by dropping a turbo and bigger brakes it is not going to get any better. I like Vipers, but not when you try to compare it to the KING OF ALL CARS EVER. FU(K BUGATTI! That is another car which was made only to beat the McLaren. It's garbage. The Venom is good, but not that good.

    Show some respect where respect is due.<!-- Signature -->
     

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