Re: more ford crap

Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra' started by 84FordMan, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Antiford</i>
    <b>Ford Sucks! Mustangs are pieces of crap, I could care less about there performance. They are ugly and poorly made. Even though Chevy's are way better quality then Ford I am not a fan of either. So, don't accuse me a being a Chevy fan for this post. But like I said I would take A Chevy over a crapy Ford any day. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You're an ass.
     
  2. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KraZ28</i>
    <b>again, for the mentally challenged ford #$%#s, i will repeat. no gt has ever been as fast as a z28. no svt cobra has ever been as fast as an ss. and lets talk cam and pushrod people. we can slap the same charger on the z and eniliate your precious piece of shit mustang....... for $15,000 less. silly little boy....</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The only one who is mentally challenged in this forum is you. Throughout the history of the Camaro and Mustang, there have been many instances where the Mustang has dominated the Camaro. Just one example would be the '87-'93 5.0 Fox-Bodied Mustangs. THEY ABSOLUTELY ANNIHILATED THE '87-'93 Z28s at the track. In more recent years, I will admit Chevy was on top with the '98 and up LS1-powered Camaro. However, the tide has turned again with the 2003 Mustang Cobra.<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. #28 84FordMan, Aug 9, 2002
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KraZ28</i>
    <b>go to www.fast-autos.net and check out the camaro zl1 they have a video of it running 9.55 in the 1/4 mile... eat my ass ford #%$git</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Hey kid, review that video, watch it a couple times in case it doesn't sink in. The Camaro inches forward about 6-7 inches, then launches. I'm sure if you let the 10L Mustang Boss get a 6-7 inch lead then launch, I'm sure it could pull 8 second 1/4 miles. 144 MPH pass? What did Moss drop under the hood to do that? A 650 cubic inch racing engine?

    What I love is, they never show the front of the car, they never show what is under the hood, there is nothing distinquishing about the rear end of that Camaro that tells you it's the one and only ZL-1. As far as anyone knows, it could be a Z28 turned dragster.

    Nice try kid, but no cookie.

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KraZ28</i>
    <b>again, for the mentally challenged ford #$%#s, i will repeat. no gt has ever been as fast as a z28. no svt cobra has ever been as fast as an ss. and lets talk cam and pushrod people. we can slap the same charger on the z and eniliate your precious piece of shit mustang....... for $15,000 less. silly little boy....</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Really kid? Let's see a 2001 SS' MSRP is $28,000. A 2003 Cobra is $29,000. A similar Eatons-Roots blower would cost about $1,400. So kid, how does:

    A 2001 Camaro SS costing $29,400 with blower

    Is cheaper than..

    A 2003 Cobra already with the blower for $29,000

    Hmmm, kid? Like I said kid, just stop while your an ass.<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. unknown by the 12 year old kid hanging arround the room is that the camaro in that run was wearing a nice set of slicks. that is how it produced that much faster of a time, a mustang with slicks would be faster than that. Just admit it son and give up the fight because mustangs are faster and better sellers and when 2004 comes arround and the new dew98 (ford talk for the lincoln ls and t-bird) based mustang comes out it will be by far the best pony car ever and the camaro will be 6 feet under.
     
  5. hey fellas, old KraZ28 here needs a reality check and needs to quit ignoring the truth. FORD IS THE SHIT! GO HOME CHEVY BOY!
     
  6. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KraZ28</i>
    <b>FordBOY, lets compare apples to apples. Your vagina on wheels, aka. svt cobra, is still not comparable to the ss. and furthermore, day in and day out??!! lets see the GT...... 260 hp. and you expect this to compete with the z28? nuttin but a tauraus with a larger engine... go by yourself a camaro and walk the sweet walk with me</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I saw a decent driver get my dad's stock 2000 Mustang GT to do 0-60 in 5.6 and waht does your Z28 do 0-60 in? 5.5? 5.4? and it has 50 more HP? Now that is pitiful numbers for a Z28 compared with the GT. 5.7 L and only 325 HP for an SS? Thats terrible! You know what Ford would get out of a 5.7 if they can get 320 out of a 4.6? We both know that the numbers would be staggering. I mean the Camaro engine is over a full litre larger and it still only makes 5 more HP? something wrong there!<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. Fact is, this car might have 390hp, but it will still handle like shit. The previous model had crap suspension, so will this one.
     
  8. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from chevykiller</i>
    <b>hey fellas, old KraZ28 here needs a reality check and needs to quit ignoring the truth. FORD IS THE SHIT! GO HOME CHEVY BOY! </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I know, he's over in the McLaren F1 forums talking about how a Camaro could easily beat it. ROFL!<!-- Signature -->
     
  9. Okay KraZ28 put an 01 Cobra against a 02 SS or 02 Z28 on a road course and lets see who would win. We both know that the Cobra would spank both of them thanks to its great suspension in both front and rear including that nice IRS. Even on a strip the 01 Cobra would beat a Z28 and would be right there with the SS. Put an 03 Cobra against any of those and well you know what would happen. All you would see are the words COBRA on the rear bumper and maybe the license plate if you have good eyes and can see a good distance. <!-- Signature -->
     
  10. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from FORD4EVR</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from KraZ28</i>
    <b>Act like a 12 year old!!?? My friend, is it not true that the svt was supposed to compete with the ss? then why can't they compete well with Z28's? Ford, by the way, is a company whose stock value is close to Enron. As all great things, they all have to come to an end. Ford has yet to perfect their sacred piece of shit. They sound like a riding lawn mower with headers! Lets not talk about ford transmissions now. Downshifting is easier in a neon. And please, lets not ever dispute that factory stock, camaros ARE FASTER!!! oh yeah, our high end cars come with radios and air conditioning... and, um... more HP. ZO6 vs cobra r. so put your foot in your mouth and never, ever talk shit to your master, you backwards ford maggot!!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The NEW Cobra does compete with the Chevy SS. Pick any year, shithead...even the 2002 Aniversary edition. I don't care. Although the real performance numbers haven't been released yet I EXPECT THIS CAR TO BEAT ANY CAMARO, ESPECIALLY YOUR SHITTY '97 Z28. Hell, you don't even need a new Cobra to beat a '97 Z28. Everyone knows that the stock LT1-engined F-Bodys are no better than 13.9 in the quarter mile. A 1999 and up MUSTANG GT will be able to take your shitty ass Z28 in the quarter mile. It goes 0-60 in 5.5 sec and a quarter mile time of 13.8 RIGHT OUT THE SHOWROOM DOOR. Now get the hell out of here.
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    I have actually seen a stock-engined lt-1 run a 13.7, that's besides the point.. you're comparing a 99+ gt mustang against a 93-97 camaro z28 and you're happy the mustang(in your numbers) is .1 of a second faster than a car that is 2 years older than the gt... you call the z28 shitty, yet this gt only beat the camaro by(again in your numbers) .1 that is the worst arguement ever... I remember reading an article from an old magazine once where they put a 96 z28 against a 97 mustang cobra and this camaro you bag on soo much beat the cobra by your incredibly huge margin of .1! wow... not much to brag about there.. my point is, ford can do better, but it takes them so long, and they eventually lose out and have to build a car that costs 35k+ to compete against a showrooom stock z28 and doesn't do much of a job of it at all... ford in my opinion is highly overpriced when it comes to their svt vehicles...

    (when the camaro is gone, the ford mustang will have to compete with the honda civic... doesn't look too good for the mustang)<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JESTERFIELD</i>
    <b>Okay KraZ28 put an 01 Cobra against a 02 SS or 02 Z28 on a road course and lets see who would win. We both know that the Cobra would spank both of them thanks to its great suspension in both front and rear including that nice IRS. Even on a strip the 01 Cobra would beat a Z28 and would be right there with the SS. Put an 03 Cobra against any of those and well you know what would happen. All you would see are the words COBRA on the rear bumper and maybe the license plate if you have good eyes and can see a good distance. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    the cobra wouldn't 'spank' the z28, let alone the ss, it may be close between the z28 and the cobra, the ss would come out on top... anyway, in the world of normal people with normal money, the z28 and ss are both worth their money considering the price of the cobra being so much higher and no much of a better performer..<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from pointman4000</i>
    <b>Fact is, this car might have 390hp, but it will still handle like shit. The previous model had crap suspension, so will this one.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    That's about as funny as your name there pointy. I love how people that know less than nothing about SVT will go and say they handle like shit, when every single magazine editor that drove and tested it
    said it handles great. Better than an SS and the Camaro with extra plastic formerlly known as a Firebird Trans-Am. And as a matter of fact the new 2003 Cobra handles even better, and the '04 Cobra with teh new Lincoln LS platform will handle even better than that with a much better weight disribution and more firm body.
     
  13. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from jcarothers</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JESTERFIELD</i>
    <b>Okay KraZ28 put an 01 Cobra against a 02 SS or 02 Z28 on a road course and lets see who would win. We both know that the Cobra would spank both of them thanks to its great suspension in both front and rear including that nice IRS. Even on a strip the 01 Cobra would beat a Z28 and would be right there with the SS. Put an 03 Cobra against any of those and well you know what would happen. All you would see are the words COBRA on the rear bumper and maybe the license plate if you have good eyes and can see a good distance. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    the cobra wouldn't 'spank' the z28, let alone the ss, it may be close between the z28 and the cobra, the ss would come out on top... anyway, in the world of normal people with normal money, the z28 and ss are both worth their money considering the price of the cobra being so much higher and no much of a better performer..</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    And they came in droves...

    Honestly, tell me, when was the last time you saw a Z28 running mid-4s in 0-60? Whoopsie me, I forgot Z28's are still stuck in the 5s. The SS just barely skirts under 5 at 4.9. Oh, did I forget to tell you the 2001 Cobra runs 0-60 in 4.7? And 2000 Cobra R runs 0-60 in 4.4?

    Use logic, the 03 Cobra will be doing 0-60 in about 4.5. No production Camaro can touch that, only dream of it. So if the Camaro can't touch it... that leaves the Corvette. C5 Corvette does 0-60 in 4.8, the Z06 does it 4.3. If you cannot see it already kid, the 03 Cobra is a Camaro Slayer and Corvette Chaser. So let's compare...

    C5 Corvette Hardtop - $38,000
    03 Cobra Coupe - $29,000

    Better performance for near $10,000 less... yeah that's a hard choice...<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. V6 against V6 the Chevy comes out first. Z28 goes with GT, and comes out on top. SS goes with Cobra and does a better 1/4 mile. If you want to compare times either compare best to best or avg. to avg. because the Z06 can run a 3.9.
     
  15. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 84FordMan</i>
    <b>Cheapest
    Heap
    Ever
    Visioned
    Yet

    1997 Chevy Camaro Z28

    0-60 in 5.8 seconds (Edmunds.com)
    285 HP
    325 ft-lbs of torque

    1999 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra

    0-60 in 5.5 seconds (Supercars.net)
    320 HP
    317 ft-lbs of torque

    2000 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R

    0-60 in 4.9 seconds (SVT.Ford.com)
    0-60 in 4.4 seconds (Road & Track)
    385 HP
    385 ft-lbs of torque

    2001 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra

    0-60 in 4.8 seconds (CarandDriver.com)
    320 HP
    317 ft-lbs of torque

    2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra

    0-60 in 4.5 est.
    420 HP
    390 ft-lbs of torque

    You were saying kid?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    84Fordman, don't compare a Cobra to an SS. The SS is a "stock" car meanwhile the Cobra is modified by SVT you idiot!<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. Is someone mad that the camaro is going bye bye.....lol<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 84FordMan</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BMW M</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 84FordMan</i>
    <b>Cheapest
    Heap
    Ever
    Visioned
    Yet

    1997 Chevy Camaro Z28

    0-60 in 5.8 seconds (Edmunds.com)
    285 HP
    325 ft-lbs of torque

    1999 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra

    0-60 in 5.5 seconds (Supercars.net)
    320 HP
    317 ft-lbs of torque

    2000 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R

    0-60 in 4.9 seconds (SVT.Ford.com)
    0-60 in 4.4 seconds (Road & Track)
    385 HP
    385 ft-lbs of torque

    2001 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra

    0-60 in 4.8 seconds (CarandDriver.com)
    320 HP
    317 ft-lbs of torque

    2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra

    0-60 in 4.5 est.
    420 HP
    390 ft-lbs of torque

    You were saying kid?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    84Fordman, don't compare a Cobra to an SS. The SS is a "stock" car meanwhile the Cobra is modified by SVT you idiot!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    It's a modified Mustang that's built by Ford, not an outside tuner, therefore it's STOCK! Jesus Christ BMW M when the #$%# will you learn such a god damned simple concept?! If it's built at a factory, it's stock.. learn that simple fact......</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Anyways SLP tunes the camaro SS, so BMW_M you are wrong as always
     
  18. Big #$%#ing deal look what your comparing those ShitSTangs to. One freakin model. Who really cares about 0-60 time! You couldn't get those times even if Saleen was in the piece of crap next to you! 0-60 is all about the same. Give me 1/4 mile times baby! And you'll see for the more horsepower the Mustang has it's not even a second faster than the SS or WS6! Not to mention it's all about the driver, your a stats guy, it's obvious, why don't you actually learn hands on what your talking about and realize you too are full of shit!
     
  19. KraZ28. Wow I've never seen a new member runs his mouth off so much and never seem to say anything intelligent. First of all the Cobra looks 10 times better than SS. second the only reason the SS not the Z28 has an advantage is that chevy put their 5.7L vette engine in the Camaro.(The 2001 cobra 0-60 in 4.8sec / 2001-2 SS 0-60 in 4.9sec) Now adout the sound that the cobra makes. That is the best sound to come from a V8 today ( What a dum comment "sound like a law mower"). You chevy fans are just sor looser and can't accept the fact that the ponycar wars are over & guess who won. *THE MUSTANG*( One more thing the 2003 svt Mustang Cobra is going to slay the SS oh and it will be you whos trying to keep up)<!-- Signature -->
     
  20. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Cobra Man</i>
    <b>KraZ28. Wow I've never seen a new member runs his mouth off so much and never seem to say anything intelligent. First of all the Cobra looks 10 times better than SS. second the only reason the SS not the Z28 has an advantage is that chevy put their 5.7L vette engine in the Camaro.(The 2001 cobra 0-60 in 4.8sec / 2001-2 SS 0-60 in 4.9sec) Now adout the sound that the cobra makes. That is the best sound to come from a V8 today ( What a dum comment "sound like a law mower"). You chevy fans are just sor looser and can't accept the fact that the ponycar wars are over & guess who won. *THE MUSTANG*( One more thing the 2003 svt Mustang Cobra is going to slay the SS oh and it will be you whos trying to keep up)</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Your so full of shit! The 2003 doesn't even run 0-60 in that time! I don't know where your reading those stats, but I've seen your baby Cobra run 13.8's in the quarter mile, while SS's run 13.1's. So keep that in mind, yes the new Cobra has about 50-60 more hp than the SS. But it's also about 10 grand more and only cuts the quarter mile time 2 tenths of a second. Put that extra cash to even out the price in a SS and I'll guarantee an 12low 11high car! Get your facts straight, no wait get some experience driving!
     
  21. Eeeesh....quite an argument we got here. I personally like Both F-Bodies and Mustangs..except for the V6 option on either. My friend has an 01' Cobra...handles great and is extremely fast. Has anyone else read the Motor Trend article a few months back where they pitted the '01 Cobra against the '02 Camaro SS? Their verdict was that the Cobra has a slight edge in handling whereas the SS had the slight edge in speed. In fact, the stat differences between the two weren't even all that different. They summed it up by saing the Cobra was a better sports car but the SS was a better muscle car. They also said the mustang was more practical cuz the SS has such long doors and the driver sits too low...which is actually why I think the Mustang beats the Camaro in sales and ultimately why the F-Bodies are being killed in sales and thus being discontinued. The bottom line is that it's not the performance of the Mustang that's offing the Camaro, it's the practicality. but I guess you sacrifice practicality for aesthetics. In my opinion, the F-bodies look better, but that's a subjective thing. Keep in mind I'm not favoring either one, I'm just trying to straighten things out instead of throwing performance numbers around. Hope this ends this kinda lame debate...<!-- Signature -->
     
  22. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Iverson</i>
    <b>From the past 10 years about 90% of Ford trucks are still on the road, the other 10% made it home.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->HAHA<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> It's true<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
  23. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from I Hate RustStangs</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Cobra Man</i>
    <b>KraZ28. Wow I've never seen a new member runs his mouth off so much and never seem to say anything intelligent. First of all the Cobra looks 10 times better than SS. second the only reason the SS not the Z28 has an advantage is that chevy put their 5.7L vette engine in the Camaro.(The 2001 cobra 0-60 in 4.8sec / 2001-2 SS 0-60 in 4.9sec) Now adout the sound that the cobra makes. That is the best sound to come from a V8 today ( What a dum comment "sound like a law mower"). You chevy fans are just sor looser and can't accept the fact that the ponycar wars are over & guess who won. *THE MUSTANG*( One more thing the 2003 svt Mustang Cobra is going to slay the SS oh and it will be you whos trying to keep up)</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Your so full of shit! The 2003 doesn't even run 0-60 in that time! I don't know where your reading those stats, but I've seen your baby Cobra run 13.8's in the quarter mile, while SS's run 13.1's. So keep that in mind, yes the new Cobra has about 50-60 more hp than the SS. But it's also about 10 grand more and only cuts the quarter mile time 2 tenths of a second. Put that extra cash to even out the price in a SS and I'll guarantee an 12low 11high car! Get your facts straight, no wait get some experience driving!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    That's for the '01 0-60 in 4.8, the 2003 will be faster, 4.5 or less
     
  24. man oh man I was laughing during this hole thing, I bet if this car was made by chev they would be saying how cool it was. judge the car by its statistics and performance not by the brand. and for those chev guys saying ford sucks, tell me this how many models did chev (not the hole damn general motors) bring out that started a craze by other manufacures, and how many number one selling cars do the have in even north america, we won't go to other continents it all be to hard.
     
  25. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mariowrc</i>
    <b>man oh man I was laughing during this hole thing, I bet if this car was made by chev they would be saying how cool it was. judge the car by its statistics and performance not by the brand. and for those chev guys saying ford sucks, tell me this how many models did chev (not the hole damn general motors) bring out that started a craze by other manufacures, and how many number one selling cars do the have in even north america, we won't go to other continents it all be to hard. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    FORD sucks because they have one dam sports car Their god car MUSTANG.... Thats it, the probe is a POS. Ford just makes different versions of the mustang , but they all look the same, "like SHit".
    Also why throw chev into this they make the z28 , camaro and the Corvette , which this POS car cant touch.

    FRENDS DONT LET FRIENDS DRIVE FORD...
     

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