1. It's a FACT that Japs make more reliable cars then all the rest. 2. What's this talk about small Inline 4 turbo-engines don't give tourqe? for example a friend of mine has the VAG 1.8T engine crankind 495 hp / 670 Nm. And dont forget the Saabs, just chip a 2.3T and you got over 400 Nm. 3. I would't mind owning a C5 or a viper, becouse a would REALY need a larger penis. =)<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SkodaRS</i> <b>1. It's a FACT that Japs make more reliable cars then all the rest. 2. What's this talk about small Inline 4 turbo-engines don't give tourqe? for example a friend of mine has the VAG 1.8T engine crankind 495 hp / 670 Nm. And dont forget the Saabs, just chip a 2.3T and you got over 400 Nm. 3. I would't mind owning a C5 or a viper, becouse a would REALY need a larger penis. =)</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> "It's a FACT that Japs make more reliable cars then all the rest" ---> Not all Japanese cars are so reliable, but of course Hondas are. I've never denied that Hondas are reliable, economical cars. But when it comes to perormance cars, Honda has absolutely nothing on the United States. And when you start adding Turbos, chips, etc to your Honda, you no longer have that same reliability. "What's this talk about small Inline 4 turbo-engines don't give tourqe? for example a friend of mine has the VAG 1.8T engine crankind 495 hp / 670 Nm..." -----> Using force air induction, such as superchargers or turbos will dramatically increase both horse power and torque on ANY engine, be it large or small. Not only do small N/A 4 bangers produce crap for torque, it's even worse at the compareable RPMs. In other words a 5.7 V8 torque at 4000RPM compared to a 1.6L I4 at 4000RPM. AND even with forced air the torque on a 4 banger is still crap. Check out your beloved 2000 Honda Civic SI 1.6L DOHC VTEC with a Vortech Supercharger. http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/yourcar/99-00civic.html Increase Horsepower to 218 and torque to 142 ft/lbs. Installation time is 10-12 hours. "I would't mind owning a C5 or a viper, becouse a would REALY need a larger penis." -----> If a larger penis is what you're looking for then I think you should look on a different website. <!-- Signature -->
Richard and I built our engines, mother#$%#er. Grease means work. Grease means dedication. Grease means love. Grease means patience. Grease means pride. Grease means obsession. Grease means something you will NEVER understand. Go ahead and tell me some 1.8L turbocharged engine has 495 horses. My engine makes 438.6 horse power exactly, so I guess I lose; but I can tell you EVERY nut, bolt, bearing and freeze plug that went into my 438.6 horse power motor. What can you tell me about yours?
All this shit that you people have said don't matter, because the truth is in the US it self more people buy imports including Honda's than American cars. Rest of the world doesnÂt give the smallest shit about American cars. I would newer in hell buy and American car. Here is a true example. I used to drive a Chevy with a big bad 5L V8 in it. Well, with 127000 miles on it over heated as I was entering the freeway. After that the car got a new radiator. Still it over heated in traffic and going up hill, it sounded like shit and it felt like i was driving with a big 5L bomb in front of me. My best friend on the other hand has a Honda Prelude with around 280000 miles on it he is not sure how much exactly because the gauge broke after 254000. When he drives it he pushes it over 7000rpm and temperature doesnÂt move a bit. For some of u unaware retards, it's called QUALITY. ThatÂs why Honda and Toyota will own GM one day. And don't talk shit because this is not a bias opinion, it's a real life experience.
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from leadfoot001</i> <b>All this shit that you people have said don't matter, because the truth is in the US it self more people buy imports including Honda's than American cars. Rest of the world doesnÂt give the smallest shit about American cars. I would newer in hell buy and American car. Here is a true example. I used to drive a Chevy with a big bad 5L V8 in it. Well, with 127000 miles on it over heated as I was entering the freeway. After that the car got a new radiator. Still it over heated in traffic and going up hill, it sounded like shit and it felt like i was driving with a big 5L bomb in front of me. My best friend on the other hand has a Honda Prelude with around 280000 miles on it he is not sure how much exactly because the gauge broke after 254000. When he drives it he pushes it over 7000rpm and temperature doesnÂt move a bit. For some of u unaware retards, it's called QUALITY. ThatÂs why Honda and Toyota will own GM one day. And don't talk shit because this is not a bias opinion, it's a real life experience. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Amen to that brother!<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from leadfoot001</i> <b>All this shit that you people have said don't matter, because the truth is in the US it self more people buy imports including Honda's than American cars. Rest of the world doesnÂt give the smallest shit about American cars. I would newer in hell buy and American car. Here is a true example. I used to drive a Chevy with a big bad 5L V8 in it. Well, with 127000 miles on it over heated as I was entering the freeway. After that the car got a new radiator. Still it over heated in traffic and going up hill, it sounded like shit and it felt like i was driving with a big 5L bomb in front of me. My best friend on the other hand has a Honda Prelude with around 280000 miles on it he is not sure how much exactly because the gauge broke after 254000. When he drives it he pushes it over 7000rpm and temperature doesnÂt move a bit. For some of u unaware retards, it's called QUALITY. ThatÂs why Honda and Toyota will own GM one day. And don't talk shit because this is not a bias opinion, it's a real life experience. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Yeah, Ok. Sure. What year/make/model?<!-- Signature -->
I had a subaru with less than 100K miles on it, drove it from Mississippi to California, well tried to. It broke down in the middle of the Desert. It blew a head gasket which warped the engine, totalling the car. I have had a Volkswagon catch fire on me while driving a montain pass. The worst I have had on my American car is the thermistat needed replaced, and brakes. (Of course this isn't the worst, but the other one was my fault) so does this mean all imports suck? No. Does your experience mean all Domestics suck? No. And yes Honda does make very realible cars, but when you sup a car up its realiblity goes down. I would be willing to bet an Domestic Stock is more realible than a Honda supped up to the same HP in the same price range.
Leadfoot0001, to use one example versus one example doesn't mean that all Dometically manufactured cars are shit. My friend has a Toyota Celica GT that was leeking water from the rubber hose that goes from the intake into the head (only Toyota could think of something that asanine). My Mustang used to overheat, too, with it's old motor. My Cleveland has about 115 more Horsepower, and I have trouble keeping it up to temp. Chevy's "5 liter motor" is the 305, a de-stroked 350 meant purely for gas mileage in their bigger sedans/weaker Camaros, it hardly fits the clasification of a "big, bad motor." So I agree with Sean - what year, make, model? Here's a little FACT to splatter that bubble of "bias" you so distinctly said you didn't have. Only Americans drive American cars, huh? "Most affluent Europeans, in a position to buy a sports car, buy an American sports car, because A: they're cheaper, even AFTER shipping tariffs, and B: they've found that they work better on most of the highways in Europe" That was said to my little brother by a professional driver, an Austrian by the name of Hans, during his trip with the Central WA University honor band to Europe, primarily England and France.
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from leadfoot001</i> <b>All this shit that you people have said don't matter, because the truth is in the US it self more people buy imports including Honda's than American cars. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> I don't believe that to be true, the last statistics i have seen report that imports make up around 25% of vehicles sold in the US (European and Asian), which is up from the near 20% that pretty much held steady from the 50's to the early 90's. I don't know where you got your statistics, but i would like to authenticate your source if you have one. If you are just speculating then i pitty your ignorance.<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from rthompson</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from leadfoot001</i> <b>All this shit that you people have said don't matter, because the truth is in the US it self more people buy imports including Honda's than American cars. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> I don't believe that to be true, the last statistics i have seen report that imports make up around 25% of vehicles sold in the US (European and Asian), which is up from the near 20% that pretty much held steady from the 50's to the early 90's. I don't know where you got your statistics, but i would like to authenticate your source if you have one. If you are just speculating then i pitty your ignorance.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Unsubstantiated statements are common on the Japanese car forums. Two of my favorites are "American cars can't handle", and "Japanese cars work better with mods"<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BrownDoggie</i> <b>Wow, Sean, Lancia just completely proved your point, didn't he? I won't even get into why he's wrong, I'll let you field that one.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> You won't get into why I was wrong? You probably missed the parts where I said things like, "American cars get results," or the "Z06 is one of the best cars ever," because you don't seem like the kind of guy to disagree with those statements. Also, everything I said is true except for some clearly editorial comments. If you disagree with something I said, say so yourself; don't sick a more informed and justly opinionated person on me because you can't defend your own arguments. Next time, be more specific instead of dismissing my entire argument and making yourself look like a fool. As for me proving Sean's "point," I was arguing <i>for</i> Sean's point as much as I was against it. Read what I said again, only this time don't assume I'm a broke, 21 year-old guy with a rice rocket and a bone to pick because I lose to 5L Mustangs all the time.<!-- Signature -->
For some of u unaware retards, it's called QUALITY. ThatÂs why Honda and Toyota will own GM one day. And don't talk shit because this is not a bias opinion, it's a real life experience. leadfoot001, you, sir, are a dumbass. Honda and Toyota will NEVER own GM. You must not have gone to college to study business, economics, or why firms behave the way they do. In fact, I'd bet you dropped out of high school so you could sup your car and so people would say, "Hey! That guy must've dropped outta high school. Look at his fugly car." When it comes to stock cars, Honda makes a QUALITY car; I drive a '94 Civic. But when someone modifies a car it becomes less reliable unless the modification is well-done. Even a good mod job can leave a problem if the car itself can't handle the modification. And don't talk shit because this is not a bias opinion, it's a real life experience.<!-- Signature -->
Oh heavens to betsy, we can't get grease on our hands from doing maintenance on our cars!!!!! We'll just take it to the shop, I'm sure they can put the windshield wiper fluid in for us. Someone made a point about a good stereo in a crappy car. My brother drove a beat up old 1965 Barracuda in high school. Blue book value 250 bucks. He spent 500 bucks on the stereo. Why? Cause it's fun!!!! Are only people in 50000 dollar cars allowed to have tunes? It was a fun car. (not too quick, but those old cars are just fun) I had the same stereo in my ultra-gay Jetta for a couple years too. Also slow, also fun, and most of it was because I had tunes. Somebody in here said that the WRX would be a corvette, and I love that car probably more than any other car, but let's be serious. The Corvette would smoke it on any piece of pavement. (The C5 might be in my top 5 favorite cars too) The most important thing is, however, the Hemi Cuda. <!-- Signature -->
Wow, Sean, Lancia just completely proved your point, didn't he? I won't even get into why he's wrong, I'll let you field that one. I drove a Chevette for 75,000 miles, paid $450 bucks for it, never had to work on the engine (total mileage: 190,000, no stereo, AC, 3 starters, new points, plugs, wires, 2 blown speakers, 3 turn signals and a partridge in a pair tree). That's like $0.70 per mile, isn't it? It gets 32 MPG, too, which is a far cry from my 'Stang's 8 or my Mercury's 15. Can't beat American dependability!! TMB - the Hemi 'Cuda is the Ultimate Musclecar, and anyone who says American cars can't handle has never driven one. (PS - I've never driven a Hemi Cuda, just a '70 318-powered little brother, but it handled well!)
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BrownDoggie</i> <b>Wow, Sean, Lancia just completely proved your point, didn't he? I won't even get into why he's wrong, I'll let you field that one.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> You won't get into why I was wrong? You probably missed the parts where I said things like, "American cars get results," or the "Z06 is one of the best cars ever," because you don't seem like the kind of guy to disagree with those statements. Also, everything I said is true except for some clearly editorial comments. If you disagree with something I said, say so yourself; don't sick a more informed and justly opinionated person on me because you can't defend your own arguments. Next time, be more specific instead of dismissing my entire argument and making yourself look like a fool. As for me proving Sean's "point," I was arguing <i>for</i> Sean's point as much as I was against it. Read what I said again, only this time don't assume I'm a broke, 21 year-old guy with a rice rocket and a bone to pick because I lose to 5L Mustangs all the time.<!-- Signature -->
That's such crap, Jadotch. In most cases with high performance cars, it is true that the driver is the limiting factor in the performance of the car. However, the driver also has to have feedback from the car to make decisions well. For example, if the suspension is too loose, a lot of the signals that the car sends out at its limit will not be sent to the driver soon enough for him to make a decision before the car is out of control. Other things like the response time of the car are also factors. A McLaren F1 has incredibly quick response time because the bulk of the mass is concentrated around the center of mass (creating a lower polar moment of inertia, for everyone into physics out there). The Camero has slower response time because it has a huge engine mounted in front of the front wheels giving it a high polar moment of inertia. No matter how fast the driver reacts, the he still has to wait for the car to do its thing. I could go on and on like I usually do, but what I'd end up concluding is that the driver is only as good as the car allows him to be, and the car can only perform as well as the driver can manage. PS-I realize that you said "the most to do with the driver," not "everything to do with the driver," but I think it's closer to dead even between the driver and the car.<!-- Signature -->
Whoa, all my posts are gone...what happened? I haven't been booted because I can still log on and post, so.....?<!-- Signature -->
The '71 Hemi Cuda is not "perhaps the greatest muscle car ever created." It is the THE greatest muscle car, period. The only one on par with it was the late, great GTO Judge - and both of these 30-year-old masterpieces would stomp this piece of kamikazi trash into the ground.
goat - eloquently written. i was unaware that you were a racist goat. muscle cars and this car are very different. let's hope you are more intelligent than your post suggests.
Those cars are all about big noise, bad fumes, and smokin' your buddies in their pop's Chevvy. They couldn't have less to do with the Honda. What is nice about those is that you can do ANYTHING to them and it's totally legal. No one cares if they emit 27 times the CO2 as the California EPA regulations allow, just keep them from rusting and you've got a free ticket to kick ass on the drag strip. PS-Nicely stated about the "kamakasi trash." Do you wear a cap and gown when you burn crosses or do you just show up for the bi-monthy lynchings?<!-- Signature -->
That's funny, boys... since Richard is Mexican. Man, you just have a dumbass way of trying to bring people down, don't you?