Re: My Viper can smoke this peice of s***

Discussion in '2000 Honda Accord Euro R' started by The El Man, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. for all the people who say domestic cars are better...
    f*ck you!
    who is beating the shit out of you on the automotive market. domestics might have started it but now there getting screwed by imports! all you F*ckers can build are trucks and imports will probably soon beat you in those too. and this bullshit about how imports only have one super car the NSX thats bullshit. Domestics can only make car with all this power but with a huge price tag. imports make cars with power people can actually afford.
     
  2. are you kidding me? you think a accord, with nos would lose to a camero? do you even know what nos is? #1 accord and a camero have about he same hp #2 with a good exhaust and good intake you could give the accord a 20-30 hp boost #3 with nos the hp doubles or triples and you think it would lose? and what is all this camero pride chevy is thinking about discontinueing it cause no one is buying it same with firebirds cause everyone knows they sux
     
  3. So let me get this straight. this forum was started by a trash-talkin viper owner, challenged my a Blitz Supra owner, later a Lancer EVO VI owner and 300ZX owner and filed with posts by dumbasses claiming 4-cyl. cars kick V-10's asses...you guys better shuttup or i'll get my best friend, Mike Tyson to kick ALL your asses!! HAHAHAHAHAHA does anyone else happen to think this whole forum was bullshit?? and by the way, if u got the full video of that neon that blew the doors off the viper u'd see that the neon was an 11-sec car or somethin ridiculous like that, i used to have the same video.<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. u can't be serious. its all about pryce. with sum tyme and monE u can have all the jap sportscars spankin' the viper. I will admit the viper will beat them all from the factory. but then agen if u have a skyGT-R, sup, 3ZX, GTO, rx-7, or an NsX chances are u are gonne put money into it as a result of the 280 hp jap law, to expierience what the car is really capable of. I have seen supras beat vipers so many tymes its almost a given now. then i see that same supra getting destroyed by a skyline. As for the dyckhed who sed the only was japs can go fast is by tuning, i hate to inform u hennesey and lingenfelter do the same. i love the viper and vettes but i would take a skylie anyday over them for a multitude of reasons. GT-R 4 lyfe. NO i dont have a skyline but i know what they can do.<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. What is your 'multitude of reasons'? I'm curious. And... I'm sorry you'd rather have slower [email protected] burners than a nice ride like a Z06 vette. Terrible, just terrible. <!-- Signature -->
     
  6. thats such an imature comment
    no sh*t the viper can smoke the accord. the accord is a sports sedan, the viper is a pure muscle car. you cant compare those two cars. a 5 year old can even notice the big diffence. its just like saying the ferrari f1 race car can smoke a pinto. comon guy be more realistic

    besides i bet you anything if i did have a euro r, i can take 3 more passengers with lots of cargo to a location faster than you.
    also i bet you anything i can drive continuously longer than you. dont have to fill up that much compared to your viper
     
  7. "My guess is that you don't, b/c in order to have enough $ to buy one, one must have a reasonable amount of intelligence, which you seem to lack. " (hsckris)

    yeah! ><IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
     
  8. hey #$%#tards... look at this pos accord 220 hp at 7200 rpms you guys are so #$%#ing stupid to EVER think this car is good, that is so horrible i cant even explain it.
     
  9. okay, whoever the hell it was that started this forum in order for a honda accord to beat a #$%#in viper is if it had like one hundred grand under the hood.Secondly this little accord only has and inline 4 vipers are equiped with v-10's. Thirdly a viper is like $150,000 atleast more then a accord. Finaly you probly dont even own a #$%#in viper.
     
  10. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from ViperDemon</i>
    <b>This car sucks big ones. I don't even know why they call it a supercar.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    Stupid, Dumb, SOB<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. I'm not sure whether you're trying to make accord lovers feel better or emmbaress yourself but what ever it is, you did it.
     
  12. IVE SEEN A CIVIC HATCHBACK BEAT A VIPER ON KAZAA TWICE! EVEN THOUGH THE VIPER HAS WAY MORE POTENTIAL FOR MORE HORSEPOWER IT WAS QUITE SAD.
     
  13. mayan this is an on going thing in supercars.net and im tired of fighting a reading ignorant peoples quotes my gosh get your #$%#in facts straight. a v6 camero is a horrible excuse for a car even the v8 ss is crap. corvette cr5 and the new z06 is the best things that ever came from america. the veilside supra is the best car in the world and nobody will ever top that...viper sucks even tuned 800tt by hennessy yes i kno my dayam facts its sucks a hatchback beating vipers is true and yeh there not in the same class the civic is in a way lower class than it and it beats it. viper $80,000 civic $10,000 with $20,000 under the hood hmm lemme think wtf would i go for? the skyline is a beautiful car i dont think you can say that about a firebird or a camero...dont come up with sayin bmw can beat jap cars because you guys arent european you guys are american...patronize your own dayam car...juss stick to your over weight big blocks while we smoke you with 4bangers<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. no s**t your viper can beat this and if it cant than well buddy you just wasted 80grand on dodge your such a dumb ass to make such a stupid post. I have to admit for as long as i have been on supercars.net website and seen all the forums this is the most stupidest one
     
  15. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from icedupracing</i>
    <b>mayan this is an on going thing in supercars.net and im tired of fighting a reading ignorant peoples quotes my gosh get your #$%#in facts straight. a v6 camero is a horrible excuse for a car even the v8 ss is crap. corvette cr5 and the new z06 is the best things that ever came from america. the veilside supra is the best car in the world and nobody will ever top that...viper sucks even tuned 800tt by hennessy yes i kno my dayam facts its sucks a hatchback beating vipers is true and yeh there not in the same class the civic is in a way lower class than it and it beats it. viper $80,000 civic $10,000 with $20,000 under the hood hmm lemme think wtf would i go for? the skyline is a beautiful car i dont think you can say that about a firebird or a camero...dont come up with sayin bmw can beat jap cars because you guys arent european you guys are american...patronize your own dayam car...juss stick to your over weight big blocks while we smoke you with 4bangers</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You are a moron, you talk of tuned Civics beating stock Vipers...what the hell does that prove? Nothing, absolutely nothing.

    I could take a Geo Storm and turn it into a drag racing monster if I wanted too...so whats your point?

    The Skyline is a beautiful car, you know what they say, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and looks are subjective...how else do you explain your parents getting married?

    The one thing that isn't subjective is the acceleration times...Skyline R34: 13.8 seconds to clear the 1/4 mile, while a Trans-Am hits the traps in 13.2 seconds, enough said.

    You say overweight big blocks...tsk tsk. A knowledgable car person like you should know that no American car has recieved a big block V8 since the late 70's...the modern Vettes and Camaros/TA's all use a smallblock 350...in the 80's some of them used a 305. Ford uses smaller blocks than that...

    I find it funny that you say "overweight big block" You should do a little research on that...I believe you would find that GM's LS-1 is lighter and more compact than say, Toyota's Turbo I-6 that was used in the Supra...


    By the way, if you actually knew anything at all about the past big block muscle cars, you would know that back in the days of skinny cross-ply tires, everything was a lot slower...and everything handled poorly...not just muscle cars. In fact, Camaros and Corvettes were considered some of the best handling cars around... <!-- Signature -->
     
  16. americans are doing great with v8`s nowdays... but japs are doing even better with i4`s... i mean camaro.. suck..period..viper is nice but .. honestly.. how many non turbo.. or supercharged.. I mean naturally aspired... have 220 hp...now.. 220 hp hmmm thinking...some euro cars have around 200 .. but wait most of em are i5 and v5`s.. 220 hp in a 4 cilinder is actually pretty good.. thats as for my personal opinion..<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from speedracer2000</i>
    <b>The thing people who dis Japanese cars don't understand is that Japanese carmakers are restricted by laws as to the size and horsepower of the vehicles they design. Name one Japanese car that comes stock with more than 280 bhp. There aren't any. It's not because they can't do it, it's because they have no choice. Either way, Japanese engines are generally extremely reliable and quality built to the smallest tolerances, and produce very impressive amounts of horsepower for the small size of their engines. Furthermore, with relatively low horsepower, many Japanese cars are just as fast, often faster and better handling than American cars producing the same power from engines three times the size and not nearly as reliable. This is pathetic considering America has been producing cars considerably longer than the Japanese and is the richest, most powerful nation on the planet. One would think they would produce better vehicles.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Perhaps you're refering to the gentlemans agreement between the Japanese car manufacturers...that set the HP limit at 276?

    They have all broken it...it doesn't exsist anymore.

    The only thing holding Japan back is the taxes they place on engines for having a higher displacement...

    What I find "pathetic" is when a Z06 Corvette has much more power than an NSX, a much bigger engine, yet still gets better gas mileage......which one is really more efficient?

    The Japanese cars you speak of that match American cars in performance are often more expensive as well...simply because high revving turbo engines are more expensive to produce than a pushrod V-8, and import fees raise the price even more.

    As to the guy who said "V5" I apologize, I don't pay much attention to the European market, and when I saw him say V5...I didn't think anyone would try and make an engine like that...one bank having an extra cylinder and all...that coupled with his poor typing and ebonics...well, I jumped to conclusions.

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  18. Alright, the Corvette (a very nice car that I like alot) is one of only a few good American cars, I was talking about American cars in general. In other countries American cars cost more than Japanese cars because of import taxes. Even in the U.S. Japanese cars don't cost a hell of alot more than domestic cars, and Japanese cars are usually better built and last longer dispite having high reving, forced inducted engines. As for braking the 276 horsepower limit, not very many Japanese cars have done this and when they do, it's not by very much.
     
  19. furious858
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    are you kidding me? you think a accord, with nos would lose to a camero? do you even know what nos is? #1 accord and a camero have about he same hp #2 with a good exhaust and good intake you could give the accord a 20-30 hp boost #3 with nos the hp doubles or triples and you think it would lose? and what is all this camero pride chevy is thinking about discontinueing it cause no one is buying it same with firebirds cause everyone knows they sux


    Really, a camero, is that anything like a CAMARO. Learn your cars you dumbshit.<!-- Signature -->
     
  20. Imaginary cars can't beat real ones. But lets say that you do have a Viper, if you were bracket racing, this car could have a chance at beating "your" Viper.
     
  21. (Read the whole thing, I promise you won't be disappointed. You might be disillusioned, but not disappointed)

    I'm going to get to everything I disagree with on this forum, but I'll start with the most annoying and stupid things people said.

    Someone mentioned a video of a Civic Hatchback beating a Dodge Viper, that's great, I've seen the video too. But:
    1. The Viper had a bad start.
    2. The driver didn't seem to know how to clutch.
    3. The Civic was not stock, so the race determines only that if you raise a car to it's peak, it might beat a STOCK sports/exotic car.
    4. Did you watch those cars go passed 130mph? It is more than likely the Civic couldn't stand up to the Viper in higher speeds.
    5. So you saw a Civic beat a Viper, what's your point? I've seen lots of Civics that couldn't beat a Viper.

    I was personally at a street race where a Civic Hatchback beat a Viper, of course it was a stock Viper vs. A Civic/JDM H22 TT, which means the Civic wasn't an actual Civic, it would be something like a Civic/Prelude Hybrid TT.

    Someone mentioned the price comparison between Civics and Vipers. That's not much of a comparison...

    1. Cost is relative; all of the Viper owners I know (ALL 2 OF THEM!) think I am very weird for wanting to pay 15x the cost of the car on performance upgrades (Thank God I can do all the installations/removals myself or it'd be 25x the cost). The point is that they are more than willing to shell out that 50,000 (USD) to get an SVSi Stryker TT, since it is relatively cheap compared to the car.

    2. I hope my Civic/B18AV-TEC can stand up to a Viper in the 1320 after I'm done with it, but I'll know it can't stand up to a Viper in all purpose. So I can beat it going in a straight line for a VERY limitted distance, a Viper will kick the crap out of me at speeds beyond 130mph. The Viper would beat me in handling (VIPERS HANDLE LIKE A DREAM! It's not the Vipers fault that people can't handle it...), it'd look a hell-of-a lot better than me, and it's interior would be like that sweet new 2002 Lincoln Continental compared to my own, since I stripped my car of every last ounce of weight that wasn't necessary.

    After-market mods are VERY cheap and easy if you know what you're doing.

    Some people are bringing up market dominance as a comparison of how good a car is, this is a pretty stupid measurement...

    1. Have you ever heard that phrase "People will like what we tell them to like"? It's the truth. Want proof? Pet Rocks. Marketting is more dominant in sales than quality.
    2. Boy bands dominate the charts nowadays, doesn't mean they're better singers than say... Frank Sinatra.


    "are you kidding me? you think a accord, with nos would lose to a camero? do you even know what nos is? #1 accord and a camero have about he same hp #2 with a good exhaust and good intake you could give the accord a 20-30 hp boost #3 with nos the hp doubles or triples and you think it would lose? and what is all this camero pride chevy is thinking about discontinueing it cause no one is buying it same with firebirds cause everyone knows they sux"
    -furious858


    So this 500bhp shot of NO2 you speak of, how do you intend on your little 2.2litre engine, that's under enough stress already by the way, living beyond this explosion? How do you plan on living beyond it? Do you plan on living beyond it? Can I have your estate after your death? Can you even get that much NO2 into an engine that small? Have your testicles dropped yet? Can you even drive? Am I pissing you off? Are my questions making you realize you should think before you state something as a fact? Are penile implants really what you're looking for? Maybe Enzyte can do the trick? Maybe extension surgery will be better?



    "u can't be serious. its all about pryce. with sum tyme and monE u can have all the jap sportscars spankin' the viper. I will admit the viper will beat them all from the factory. but then agen if u have a skyGT-R, sup, 3ZX, GTO, rx-7, or an NsX chances are u are gonne put money into it as a result of the 280 hp jap law, to expierience what the car is really capable of. I have seen supras beat vipers so many tymes its almost a given now. then i see that same supra getting destroyed by a skyline. As for the dyckhed who sed the only was japs can go fast is by tuning, i hate to inform u hennesey and lingenfelter do the same. i love the viper and vettes but i would take a skylie anyday over them for a multitude of reasons. GT-R 4 lyfe. NO i dont have a skyline but i know what they can do."
    -SupraIV13

    I feel like a unique approach to this one, I'll quote him and mention the IDIOCY in his comments.

    "u can't be serious. its all about pryce."
    - If it were all about price, we'd all be roaming the highways on mopeds.

    "with sum tyme and monE u can have all the jap sportscars spankin' the viper."
    - WAIT A FRICKIN' MOMENT HERE! Isn't this the guy saying "it's all about pryce"? So it's only about money when it benefits you?

    "I have seen supras beat vipers so many tymes its almost a given now."
    - Around where I live, there is a 697rwhp Supra owner. He has spent more money on his car than any of the local Viper owners, partly due to his inability to work on his own car. And guess what, he fears the turbo-charged Viper (not sure what turbo is in it). I've seen so many Vipers smoke Supras, that it's almost a given now; I must be watching the REAL races.

    "then i see that same supra getting destroyed by a skyline."
    - BULLSHIT! I doubt you've even seen a Supra race a Skyline in person. You can't trust what you see on a video that has been circulating around the internet, especially when facts say otherwise.

    "As for the dyckhed who sed the only was japs can go fast is by tuning, i hate to inform u hennesey and lingenfelter do the same."
    - LOOK! He's trying to sound smart but missing the entire point of the comment at the same time. He said ONLY WAY ama. Lingenfelter and Hennesey make good cars great.

    "i love the viper and vettes but i would take a skylie anyday over them for a multitude of reasons."
    - Have you ever been in a Skyline? I've been in a R33RV and (once) in a R34RV, and let me tell you: those were the worst two rides I'd ever been on. The flashy meters and fancy gizmos distracted me from the headache and backpain while I was in the car since I am easily distracted by flashy lights and high-tech doohickies. Everyone says they want an R34RV, yet few of them have even seen one, and even less know them as the pieces of crap they are.

    "GT-R 4 lyfe."
    - There are two types of GT-Rs smart guy.


    "mayan this is an on going thing in supercars.net and im tired of fighting a reading ignorant peoples quotes my gosh get your #$%#in facts straight. a v6 camero is a horrible excuse for a car even the v8 ss is crap. corvette cr5 and the new z06 is the best things that ever came from america. the veilside supra is the best car in the world and nobody will ever top that...viper sucks even tuned 800tt by hennessy yes i kno my dayam facts its sucks a hatchback beating vipers is true and yeh there not in the same class the civic is in a way lower class than it and it beats it. viper $80,000 civic $10,000 with $20,000 under the hood hmm lemme think wtf would i go for? the skyline is a beautiful car i dont think you can say that about a firebird or a camero...dont come up with sayin bmw can beat jap cars because you guys arent european you guys are american...patronize your own dayam car...juss stick to your over weight big blocks while we smoke you with 4bangers"
    -icedupracing

    "the veilside supra is the best car in the world and nobody will ever top that..."
    - "and I base this entirely on nothing"

    "viper sucks even tuned 800tt by hennessy yes i kno my dayam facts its sucks"
    - "and I base this entirely on nothing". And if you did know your facts, you would know of two little companies that tune Vipers far beyond Hennesey's 800TT; SVSi and GIWASA. Look them up and see how you stand with the whole "Vipers suck" thing.

    "a hatchback beating vipers is true and yeh there not in the same class the civic is in a way lower class than it and it beats it."
    - Ummm... Civic Si's have 1320s of over 16 seconds. Boy I hate these little kids that don't realize how cars work and why certain cars aren't in the same class.

    "viper $80,000 civic $10,000 with $20,000 under the hood hmm lemme think wtf would i go for?"
    - What would YOU go for? The Viper of course! Post Script: I once saw a used '93 Viper RT/10 for just over 30,000 (USD) (I was wishing I had a house to put up for mortgage at the time), put an SVSi super-charger under the hood for 24,000 (USD), and by golly, 782bhp and 821lb-ft sitting at your crank for just over 55,000 (USD). Isn't that the cost of a stock Supra? You see, one car doesn't make the model. Unless it's a prototype or something... And I doubt a Civic could match up to a Viper with just 20,000 (USD) under the hood. MAYBE if it had an engine swap, which is cheating.

    "the skyline is a beautiful car i dont think you can say that about a firebird or a camero..."
    - Oh yeah. The firebird and camero are beautiful cars. What do you think of that?

    "dont come up with sayin bmw can beat jap cars because you guys arent european you guys are american...patronize your own dayam car"
    - I'm Japanese... ... ... By the way, I patronize cars that deserve it. Not according to their manufacturer.


    I'm growing sick of this and I hope you're getting sick of reading it, so I decided I am going to deal with the entire "Jap engines are better" thing.

    The reason why Japanese engines are "better" pound for pound is because smaller engines are more efficient than large ones. It's part of physics and chemistry, it's the way engines work. Smaller engines have smaller and lighter components and will therefor work better since they use less energy overcoming friction, weight, etc... but they don't have as much power to begin with. It has very little to do with better engineering, though Americans tend to avoid putting much technology into their cars, they could just put in a few components and make little engines that match up to Japanese and European ones. Of course those lighter materials can't take as much as the heavier American beasts, so you end up with monstrous turbocharging and supercharging potential in American engines.

    I want to be an engine tuner, I know I have a better chance tuning smaller engines since they don't need as much energy as a big engine. They are easier to work with, and I can rip off stupid r i c e r s with "custom" supercharger fits and stuff like that. I have estimates for a B-series engine that can produce 300-400bhp while staying naturally aspirated. I really doubt I'll get to the upper half of that estimate, but I can be delusional.

    In closing, I'd like to leave you with a humorous quote from Mitch Hedburg (BUY HIS CD! IN STORES NOW!)
    "I haven't slept for 10 days because that would be too long"
     
  22. Holy crap! Nice essay. You actually did prove your point quite well.
     
  23. Why the Hell Is there Honda's on this website.
    It's SUPERCARS....not....SUPERSHIT!


    Ferrari rules
     
  24. Accords Aint That Bad....My Brother Is Running Over 500hp on 1 Here Are Mods..

    Custom Turbo kit by Paisley Automotive, Cast Exhaust Manifold, Polished Turbo Piping, Turbonetics T-66 Turbo, Spearco Front Mount Intercooler, HKS Intake, HKS Super Sequential Blow-Off Valve, HKS Wastegate, 3-inch down pipe, HKS Hiper Exhuast, HKS Super AFR
    HKS Spark Plugs
    18" Volk Racing TE-37s, Yokohama Paradas

    So Just To Let Y'all Know...Accord Can Do Damage It Just Depends How You Manipulate Them
     
  25. shoot, you guys are still talking about this? i thought it was pretty clear a month ago that the person who wrote this is an idiot and that stock vs. stock, the viper would kill the accord. plus, this person saying they have a viper is impossible, noting the word "piece" is spelled wrong in the title(if you had money for a viper, you probably went to school).
     

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