Re: not good enough

Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1' started by bigrob, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    sorry corvette man but you are wrong.

    Being an avid GM fan myself i know that the vette like it or not is compared to dodge's viper and porsche and the like because it came out with such a high performance version in the z06 and strictly because it has the moniker of "America's Sports car" Soa by saying it cant be compared to the GT 40 that is dumb, yes you are right it isnt out yet but that really doesnt mean anything anyway, if chevy actually does make the next vette, or a version of the next vette have 500 hp, then it will definately be in the same league even if it isn't in the same price category.

    You will want to compare the vettes to other cars of a higher price category when the z06 beats it, jsut give the vette some competition, it needs it if you just compare it to the sme price category.
     
  2. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    for all of you guys comparing the zo6 to the GT-40 for about the same price you can get a Lingenfelter stage 2 650 Corvette and it will destroy the GT-40 this thing shouldn't be called the Mach it only has 300 hp and where is the 351, this thing should be called the GT mustang <!-- Signature -->
     
  3. I'm totally impressed!

    I am thoroughly impressed (sarcasm? Yes.) with all of the witty banter and bickering going on this topic. I suppose the people who are defending the Z06 own the impressive and expensive Vette. I am a passionate Mustang owner with a 2001 Bullitt. I don't think I've known of or owned a vehicle in a long time that has as much personality and charm as what the Bullitt posesses. I see the Mach 1 generating the same following and interest from true and objective car lovers.
    Ford Motor Company has continually made an effort year after year to improve their product and generate interest in their vehicles. The SVT lineup is a prime example. The Mustang Cobra, F-150 Lightning, Contour SVT, and soon the Focus SVT. The Chevrolet Camaro is now defunct due to poor sales and declining interest in the car. I'm sure that it will return better than ever in a few years when it's absence is noticed.
    Until then, the Mustangs will be the only domestics in it's class to challenge the import muscle.
     
  4. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    Okay, I am not a big Mustang fan but I can appreciate it`s place on the road. I also think that there is no comparison between this Mach 1 and a Z06 (because they're in different classes). If you compare a Z06, then why not a Viper? Hell, why not a n Audi S4 or a Honda S200? THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT CARS DESIGNED FOR VERY DIFFERENT PURPOSES. Why not compare it to a Corvette Coupé (which I still think is out of it's class).

    For those people who say that the Mustang is not a sports car I disagree with you. A sports car is not determined by the people who drive it (ie. soccer moms), but by the fact that it is designed more for speed, acceleration, and handling rather than transportation, comfort, and/or luxury. If nobody but soccer moms drove a 911 Turbo would that make it not a sports car?

    The thing that I wonder is why does Ford (appear to) release a different Mustang every six months? Let's list them all (note: these are not aftermarket tuning jobs, these are factory designed and released by Ford): Mustang (coupe/convertible), GT, Bullitt, SVT, SVT Cobra, Cobra R, and now the Mach 1. How many different versions of the Mustang do you need? It seems like every year Ford releases 1000 different "commemorative editions" or that every time Ford discovers a way to increase the Mustang's hp by 5-15 horses they feel tthe need to celebrate by creating a brand new car. Why not just improve the original Mustang?

    I don't mind commemorative editions or special edition cars at all, I just think it kind of demeans the value of it when you release a different one every day.

    Oh, and please don't reply to this post with things like "Shut up man! Ford Rulz!" or "How can you bring up Chevy, they suk!". If you have something intelligent to say, then please share it with the world. If you feel like making some unbased assinine remark, then keep your fingers off of the keyboard.
     
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    Oh yeah, one last thing, please don't compare this car to tuned aftermarket cars or cars that haven't been released yet (or that might be released but not in the same version) like the GT40 or a Saleen Mustang (which I'm thankful nobody has brought up yet), otherwise this is going to turn into a big chest-thumping Ford vs. Chevy (vs. Dodge vs. Euros vs. Japs...).
     
  6. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    Legacy you bring up some good points.

    The reason Ford is making the mach1 is to fit inbetween the Cobra and GT in the mustang lineup. It will stay in the lineup unlike the one year Bullitt and the Cobra R's. This will sell a lot more than the limited edition R's though. Besides this will be about a 65HP increase over the GT. And the reason they are not improving the GT, what I suppose you mean by 'regular mustang' is because in 2004 it's due for a big update, they won't do anything til then.

    So from now on the lineup will have the V6, GT, Mach1, Cobra and there will be the tuners. I guess that's a lot, but they have no problem selling them though.
     
  7. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from RX-7Guy</i>
    <b>Man, really chaps my hide when people have to go hating Ford. You drive what you like, and let others drive what they like. The Mustang is a different breed of car. Camaros, Vettes, Vipers, and the like are all two seat full on sports cars. The Mustang is not. BR>
    Chris</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    You got half of it. If you're pre-disposed to hating a brand just because you hate the brand, you aren't an auto enthusiast, you're close minded.
    By the way, the Camaro's a four seater.<!-- Signature -->
     
  8. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 3WayStreet</i>
    <b>VETTES SUCK, ALWAYS HAVE SUCKED, ALWAYS WILL SUCK

    If your gonna stick up for a car, at least stick up for one that doesnt look like its been raped by the ugly stick

    its so..........simple
    oh well, simple car for simple people</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Any reasons you can give that Vette's suck? Back it up or it's just a hollow comment. And simple designs often produce the most beautiful cars.<!-- Signature -->
     
  9. YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    The Mustang Mach 1 is no better than the origional Mustang and will still get ripped by the Z06<!-- Signature -->
     
  10. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    sure this would get beaten by a zo6 but how much does this stang cost? i would also rather have a vette but cost is also another important issue.
     
  11. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    Man, really chaps my hide when people have to go hating Ford. You drive what you like, and let others drive what they like. You can't go comparing a Mustang to a Z06. They just aren't in the same class. Would you compare a Miata to a Mazda RX-7? No, they aren't comparable. The Mustang is a different breed of car. Camaros, Vettes, Vipers, and the like are all two seat full on sports cars. The Mustang is not. The closing thing I could possibly think to compare it to might be Mazdas new RX-8. They both have a back seats and are sporty. Maybe the Pontiac Gran Prix Coupe. But even then not really. Anyways, just my two cents. You gotta appreciate the car for what it is. 4 seats, and not bad performance to boot. Still cheaper then a Z06 too!

    Chris<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    I agree completely except for one thing, the camaro is in the same class as the mustang, both pony cars (2+2, 2 door, v8, rear drive) jsut a little correction there
     
  13. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from USRACING</i>
    <b>The Mustang Mach 1 is no better than the origional Mustang and will still get ripped by the Z06</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You are an idiot. The Z06 costs almost twice as much as this Mustang. Therefore, the two can't be compared.<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    I agree with FORD4EVER because the mustang and the Vette are two totally different vehicles. The vette ZO6 is a high performance sports car and the Mustang is just a Mustang.<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    USRACING, your a moron<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    The next time you moron Chevy fans open your mouth about how great the Z06 is and how it dominates anything Ford has to offer, just remember the GT-40.

    Enough said.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    Big Rob, Thanks for the correction. I think I remember a Camaro with room for 4. But the back passengers were kids in my uncles "old" camaro. Sorry bout the over sight. I try to be a thorough with what I put out there. Thanks for the correction. Between defending the Mustang and defending the RX-7, I have my hands full. Nice to see a few others that realize just what the Mustang is. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
  18. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from FORD4EVR</i>
    <b>The next time you moron Chevy fans open your mouth about how great the Z06 is and how it dominates anything Ford has to offer, just remember the GT-40.

    Enough said.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You are a moron.

    Enough Said.


    The GT40 isnt compareable to anythig but LaMans cars, + It will cost over $100,000. Do you think a $100,000 car is compareable with a $50,000 car? <!-- Signature -->
     
  19. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Chris Draper</i>
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    <b>The next time you moron Chevy fans open your mouth about how great the Z06 is and how it dominates anything Ford has to offer, just remember the GT-40.

    Enough said.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You are a moron.

    Enough Said.


    The GT40 isnt compareable to anythig but LaMans cars, + It will cost over $100,000. Do you think a $100,000 car is compareable with a $50,000 car? </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    He was making a point dumbass. It's just as comparable to compare the 50,000 dollar car to the 25,000 as the 100,000 dollar car to the 50,000.

    Chevy fans compare the z06 to everything no matter price/class, but they forget that Ford will make the GT40 and GM's flagship will sorely lose to Ford's flagship.

    Chris, you are the moron.
     
  20. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Hoseman</i>
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    <b>The next time you moron Chevy fans open your mouth about how great the Z06 is and how it dominates anything Ford has to offer, just remember the GT-40.

    Enough said.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You are a moron.

    Enough Said.


    The GT40 isnt compareable to anythig but LaMans cars, + It will cost over $100,000. Do you think a $100,000 car is compareable with a $50,000 car? </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    He was making a point dumbass. It's just as comparable to compare the 50,000 dollar car to the 25,000 as the 100,000 dollar car to the 50,000.

    Chevy fans compare the z06 to everything no matter price/class, but they forget that Ford will make the GT40 and GM's flagship will sorely lose to Ford's flagship.

    Chris, you are the moron.</b></blockquote><center><hr
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    The only people that "WILL" buy a GT40 are the ones that will race them, or the colectors.

    So actualy GM's flagship will still fly high!!!
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  21. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    Or the people who would buy Porsches, Ferraris, Vpers, NSX's.....
    So no, there is a group of consumers who will fall in love with the '40<!-- Signature -->
     
  22. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    What are you thinking comparing a z06 to a mustang mach1. Theirs a 100hp difference between them, youre a moron.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from FORD4EVR</i>
    <b>The next time you moron Chevy fans open your mouth about how great the Z06 is and how it dominates anything Ford has to offer, just remember the GT-40.

    Enough said.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Ya, like people will buy the GT40. Ferraris,Porsches and Lamborghini will always be able to smear shit all over the Ford's face.<!-- Signature -->
     
  24. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    Some poeple on here are stupid. They compare the Z06 to cars teice as expensive as it and say "it's better becasue it's cheaper". But when it loses they say "Z06 isnt even in the same class".

    Seriously though, about the GT40, I can gurantee you if and when it is released, it will be definately be compared to Viper and Corvette. Viper by the way, the ACR costs like 80,000 US which is alot more than the Vette, but still it's closest market competitor. If GT40 costs 100,000 then whats the problem then?

    GT40 better be good though, I read Corvette will get a 7 litre engine with 500hp and the Viper is getting an 8.3 litre v10 with over 500hp. All I can say is wow.<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. Re: YA! IT WAS SHAKEN AFTER IT GOT BURNED BY A ZO6

    All you Ford punks should shut up with this shit about the Mach 1 being better than the ZO6 because of price! These are the reasons The ZO6 is more expensive,

    Bigger engine

    105 more horsepower

    very nice interior (ex. full leater dashboard, H.u.d.- all you 2002 ZO6 owners know what im talkin' bout'!)

    legendary

    etc.( to much stuff to list!)<!-- Signature -->
     

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