Putting 8's and 9's in a civic is damn near impossible, and improbable, and expensive. It's not like you can say: "Hmmm, let's just drop an engine in!" It's not like water! You can't just "drop" one in! And if Honda wanted that engine to be in the car, they'd put it in the car! It's not like the Prelude engine doesn't meet Jap requirements! And the term "Hardcore Civic"? That's like Vin! Vin drove a hardcore civic! Give me a break! And aren't the VTEC valves open all the time? And you need a turbocharger AND the messiah to import owners, the magical mixture, NOS!!! THEN, when you've mortgaged your house to spend all this money, you can't afford a spoiler for the downforce, so you pop two milo cans and connect them with cardboard, slap on a Type-R sticker and call it a racer, when you really mean r!cer. It's not like any other company can't produce an inline 4 2 litre engine, they just choose not to. and because of that, they have more power than your 'precious' civic with a homemade spoiler. Now, I'm not Civic bashing. Civic's are reliable, durable city cars with good petrol efficiency. But are they really worth all the money? Can't people buy a car with a bigger engine, more room, and more power for the same price as a "SuperCivic?"