Re: This vs Ferrari F50

Discussion in '2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT' started by DodgeFreak, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Eactly, well put...<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i>
    <b>People in this thread make me sad. They say that the Viper can out perform any Ferrari, and that a supra with 800 hp is just a stupid jap car. Doesn't anybody even understand why they can charge so much for the F50? Oh by the way, the 360 modena, and the 550 marenello are both as fast or faster than then Viper, but they are much much much much better because they are Ferraris and not some shitty Dodge. Ok, they cost more, you want a car that destroys the viper for the same/less money? The TVR Tuscan.

    This car isn't that great, its kinda stupid actually.

    Anyone who would take this car over a F50 is either a dumb American who loves engines that are big and produce low amounts of Horse Power, or people who don't know what the F50 are.

    Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    No, the 360 Modena and 550 Maranello don't accelerate as fast as the Viper.

    Funny how you mention "pos Dodge" and "TVR Tuscan" in the same reply. Are you familiar with TVR's reliability? Obviously not. The Viper is MUCH more superior in terms of reliability. Does the Tuscan have a 7 year warranty? No, it doesn't. In fact, TVR's are known as having some of the worst reliability records.

    800 horsepower is a low amount? Uhhh, ok.

    Funny how you feel you must come to the Viper forum just to spout crap about it which is totally false. But hey, kids will be kids.<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SvSi Viper</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i>
    <b>People in this thread make me sad. They say that the Viper can out perform any Ferrari, and that a supra with 800 hp is just a stupid jap car. Doesn't anybody even understand why they can charge so much for the F50? Oh by the way, the 360 modena, and the 550 marenello are both as fast or faster than then Viper, but they are much much much much better because they are Ferraris and not some shitty Dodge. Ok, they cost more, you want a car that destroys the viper for the same/less money? The TVR Tuscan.

    This car isn't that great, its kinda stupid actually.

    Anyone who would take this car over a F50 is either a dumb American who loves engines that are big and produce low amounts of Horse Power, or people who don't know what the F50 are.

    Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    No, the 360 Modena and 550 Maranello don't accelerate as fast as the Viper.

    Funny how you mention "pos Dodge" and "TVR Tuscan" in the same reply. Are you familiar with TVR's reliability? Obviously not. The Viper is MUCH more superior in terms of reliability. Does the Tuscan have a 7 year warranty? No, it doesn't. In fact, TVR's are known as having some of the worst reliability records.

    800 horsepower is a low amount? Uhhh, ok.

    Funny how you feel you must come to the Viper forum just to spout crap about it which is totally false. But hey, kids will be kids.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Oh? They don't accelerate as fast, eh? Well I guess that is the only element of speed. I mean turning, braking, they don't count at all. Funny how you must say such a stupid thing, well, hicks will be hicks. The thing with low horse power sorta came out wrong, but you'll still be stupid to pick this before a F50 GT.

    Angus<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. Thats funny how you mention turning and braking. It just so happens the Viper pulls more g's and has a faster slalom speed than the 360 Modena and 550 Maranello. It also brakes faster than the F50! Yea, they are elements of fast laps on a track, and the Viper has the edge in that as well. LOL!

    When did I ever say I would pick this over an F50GT? I would do no such thing. I would take the F50GT, buy a Stock Viper, and with the extra $600,000 I would buy a house and keep the change.<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. Man who do these guys think they are when they come in and say this car is shit...
    U guys don't know what your talkin' about...
    and what the hell is with the whole "Angus" thing...?<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SvSi Viper</i>
    <b>Thats funny how you mention turning and braking. It just so happens the Viper pulls more g's and has a faster slalom speed than the 360 Modena and 550 Maranello. It also brakes faster than the F50! Yea, they are elements of fast laps on a track, and the Viper has the edge in that as well. LOL!

    When did I ever say I would pick this over an F50GT? I would do no such thing. I would take the F50GT, buy a Stock Viper, and with the extra $600,000 I would buy a house and keep the change.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Road And Track:

    Braking:
    360 Modena 80-0mph: 188 Feet
    550 Maranello 80-0mph: 199 Feet
    Dodge Viper GTS 80-0mph: 278 feet

    Slalom MPH:
    360 Modena: 67.4
    550 Maranello: 62.8
    Dodge Viper GTS: 63.6

    N'ring Times:

    360 Modena: 8 Minutes 9 seconds
    550 Maranello: 8 Minutes 7 seconds
    Dodge Viper GTS: 8 Minutes 10 Seconds

    Yeah, that Viper brakes really great. Just 10 feet short from 100 whole feet farther than the 360, impressive. By the way, the F-50 does it in 213 feet, and its slalom is 65.7 MPH, both superior to the Viper. So next time you come up with those numbers, don't just pull them straight from your ass.

    Angus<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. Actually to sort out the supra thing that 750hp spec i gave in the other post was before we upgraded the intercooler etc yet left the turbo the same, as for your statement on japanese cars suck well sorry to have to be the one to tell you this man but guess where the designs for a viper came from? Thats right the japanese being that there are 2 head engineers which just happen to be japanese on dodge's design team. For the supra comment made by that moron about copying the Veilside Supra? LMAO thats f u c k i n g hilarious. First of all seeing as how his car has been in magazines before he would be sued instantly by Toyota and seeing as how Toyota hanst done anyhitng and it is a totally different design using different specs, parts, and tuned way differently then the Veilside Supra it isnt copying. If anyone on this forum isnt full of shit come out to vegas anytime during a car show particularly a euro car show and you will find a 1998 toyota supra with 850bhp using only 1 turbo, 580ft lbs of torque, 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and top seed of 230mph. Yes i do live in vegas as i have stated 8 times before. Take for example the time me and a member from this forum by the name of Adam Walko were going to race one on one at the Vegas speedway, his so called "Buggatti 16/4 Veyron" which only buggatti owns against my M4S never happened because when i had spoke to him last and confronted him about the fact that their is only one 16/4 veyron in existence which buggatti owns he backed down, confessed and stated that he couldnt race because all he has is a 89 honda civic hatchback. I will only say this once before any of you losers that think japanese cars suck reply to this post - take you head out of your ass and look into a few euro magazines and you will eventually find the supra im talking about until that time however dont speak about something you know nothing about.
     
  8. "Don't speek about something you know nothing about." You too.
     
  9. DodgeMS-4:
    The F50GT has more luxury than this Viper? Are you freakin' serious? Even the regular F50 is horrifically stripped down, the F50GT is even worse. Look inside the interior of any GT1 RACE CAR and you'll get the picture. Does it have a 200-watt stereo system with 6 speakers? Electric door locks (remotely controlled) and electric window lifts? Air conditioning?

    Regarding this Supra, can you post a dyno chart of it? This should be a blast!!! I'll bet it's as laggy as a '70s Porsche 911 Turbo.

    Why have 650+hp Supras lost to mildly modified Vipers at the One Lap of America races for the past 2 years in a row?
     
  10. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from DodgeMS-4</i>
    <b>a viper wiht a twin turbo v10 that only produces 800bhp? LMAO thats #$%#ing hilarious just goes to show everyone that viper is crap thats the most bhp they can get out of the viper without it falling apart yet in the longrun they are destined to do just that fall apart. A friend of mine here in vegas has a 1998 toyota supra that has 850bhp and 580ft lbs of torque does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and tops out at 230mph using only 1 Turbo intercooler, etc. and it can and has spanked every viper, porsche, ferrari, lamborghini, honda, acura, chevele, corvette, nova, and barracuda form Washington to Florida and back again, basically anyone foolish enough to try and race him loses. Yet he has a 4cylinder mystifying isnt it? <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Wait, his Supra is only a "4cylinder"? Yes, that IS mystifying.

    And no, 800 horses isn't the only thing the Viper can produce. It's what it produces with stock internals at only 8psi of boost. Besides, the Twin Turbo Stryker has already surpassed this Viper (see dyno chart below; yes, that's 850 RWHP). Viper tuning is in its infancy, believe it.
    And if you thing Viper engines are prone to failure, why is it they can offer a 7-year/70,000-mi warranty from the factory? What does Ferrari offer? 2 years? Care to wonder why this is?
     
  11. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from DodgeMS-4</i>
    <b>Well sorry to have to be the one to tell you this man but guess where the designs for a viper came from? Thats right the japanese being that there are 2 head engineers which just happen to be japanese on dodge's design team.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    And what are their names? (Don't get your Viper generations mixed up now.)
     
  12. Thank you Guibo, excellent posts! This guys an idiot!
     
  13. #14 VenomFlowsThroughMyVeins, Aug 9, 2002
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    This is fricken hillarious! Do you all know who the LEAD designer on the Dodge RT team was for the first viper? Wait a second... was he really Japanese as DodgeMS-4 claims? NO! He was from TEXAS! Holy s h i t. It was the one... the only... Carroll Shelby! Don't believe me? Go to his website: http://www.carrollshelby.com/ Is this guy, DodgeMS-4 a total f u c k face? K.. the Ferrari's sweet... I'll admit it. But really... I don't know of any Ferrari that get's 0-60 in 2.7 seconds... do any of you? Also... about your fricken supra.. a supra has high end horsepower... it's like the comparison of a 2 stroke motocross bike to a 4 stroke. An 80cc 2 stroke can whip a 125 4 stroke's ass, but not off the line, and not in all ranges of the spectrum. Just like a 4 cylinder supra. The Viper has the horses, AND the torque. Your g a y supra (which all of a sudden went from 720 to 750 to 850hp) will have a nice top end of each gear, but off the line it will suck big fat c o c k, cuz it isn't an American thumper.. it's a R I C E BURNER!!! Torque will make all the difference in the world for someone serious in racing. I've never seen a Supra win the Le Mans... but has a Viper? Ya! I think it was the 1st year it raced it too. Anyone else here getting sick of people not knowing stuff about cars, and spouting off about random useless bits of nonsense??
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  14. #15 DodgeFreak, Aug 9, 2002
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from VenomFlowsThroughMyVeins</i>
    <b>This is fricken hillarious! Do you all know who the LEAD designer on the Dodge RT team was for the first viper? Wait a second... was he really Japanese as DodgeMS-4 claims? NO! He was from TEXAS! Holy s h i t. It was the one... the only... Carroll Shelby! Don't believe me? Go to his website: http://www.carrollshelby.com/ Is this guy, DodgeMS-4 a total f u c k face? K.. the Ferrari's sweet... I'll admit it. But really... I don't know of any Ferrari that get's 0-60 in 2.7 seconds... do any of you? Also... about your fricken supra.. a supra has high end horsepower... it's like the comparison of a 2 stroke motocross bike to a 4 stroke. An 80cc 2 stroke can whip a 125 4 stroke's ass, but not off the line, and not in all ranges of the spectrum. Just like a 4 cylinder supra. The Viper has the horses, AND the torque. Your g a y supra (which all of a sudden went from 720 to 750 to 850hp) will have a nice top end of each gear, but off the line it will suck big fat c o c k, cuz it isn't an American thumper.. it's a R I C E BURNER!!! Torque will make all the difference in the world for someone serious in racing. I've never seen a Supra win the Le Mans... but has a Viper? Ya! I think it was the 1st year it raced it too. Anyone else here getting sick of people not knowing stuff about cars, and spouting off about random useless bits of nonsense??
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    Thank God, someone with some actual FREAKING SENSE, and love the name dude, and correct, Vipers forever!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. Well for a topic i thought would end rather quickly this has gone a long way...

    Plus the Viper Venom is way betta then the F50 fool!!!<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. This vs Ferrari F50

    This is a close race...
    i'm a big Viper fan, but...the Ferrair does come damn close...

    What do u think...?<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. I think this viper will still stomp the F50.
     
  18. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from onlymopar</i>
    <b>I think this viper will still stomp the F50.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    same here
     
  19. Really...damn.

    Does every 1 else think the same<!-- Signature -->
     
  20. Actually the Viper being the hunk of metal that it is would eat the f50's dust. heres why there is a ferrari f50 called the F50GT which has 720bhp on its mid longitudinal TIPO F130A V12 it didnt get the recognition it deserved being that only 3 exist yet it would spank the holy hell out of a viper in takeoff handling luxury and top speed. Don't talk about subjects that you guys know nothing about until you actually work with cars like the viper ferrari lamborghini and so on just shut your mouths because you know nothing but facts. Fact being that viper is the biggest pile of s h i t on the face of this eart yet too many hard headed americans beleive that its the best a viper wiht a twin turbo v10 that only produces 800bhp? LMAO thats #$%#ing hilarious just goes to show everyone that viper is crap thats the most bhp they can get out of the viper without it falling apart yet in the longrun they are destined to do just that fall apart. A friend of mine here in vegas has a 1998 toyota supra that has 850bhp and 580ft lbs of torque does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and tops out at 230mph using only 1 Turbo intercooler, etc. and it can and has spanked every viper, porsche, ferrari, lamborghini, honda, acura, chevele, corvette, nova, and barracuda form Washington to Florida and back again, basically anyone foolish enough to try and race him loses. Yet he has a 4cylinder mystifying isnt it? <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
     
  21. that is a very interesting post.
     
  22. i like ppl who give us interesting info about mopars!
     
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    <b>i like ppl who give us interesting info about mopars!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Yeah, it bothers me when people make crap up though, just cause they can't find anything wrong with em'.
     

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