Re: This vs Ferrari F50

Discussion in '2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT' started by DodgeFreak, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. i like all american cars but i still have a small preference for mopars
     
  2. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">from me.
     
  3. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from DodgeMS-4</i>
    <b>Actually the Viper being the hunk of metal that it is would eat the f50's dust. heres why there is a ferrari f50 called the F50GT which has 720bhp on its mid longitudinal TIPO F130A V12 it didnt get the recognition it deserved being that only 3 exist yet it would spank the holy hell out of a viper in takeoff handling luxury and top speed. Don't talk about subjects that you guys know nothing about until you actually work with cars like the viper ferrari lamborghini and so on just shut your mouths because you know nothing but facts. Fact being that viper is the biggest pile of s h i t on the face of this eart yet too many hard headed americans beleive that its the best a viper wiht a twin turbo v10 that only produces 800bhp? LMAO thats #$%#ing hilarious just goes to show everyone that viper is crap thats the most bhp they can get out of the viper without it falling apart yet in the longrun they are destined to do just that fall apart. A friend of mine here in vegas has a 1998 toyota supra that has 850bhp and 580ft lbs of torque does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and tops out at 230mph using only 1 Turbo intercooler, etc. and it can and has spanked every viper, porsche, ferrari, lamborghini, honda, acura, chevele, corvette, nova, and barracuda form Washington to Florida and back again, basically anyone foolish enough to try and race him loses. Yet he has a 4cylinder mystifying isnt it? <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    hahaha...the only problem is that it is a toyota supra...a little stupid jap car that is gay, also the guy who made this thread is talking about the stock f50 not the f50gt...and your "friend's car" is probably just the stats from like the veilside supra or something and ill bet you are like 12 years old so shutup. also how can you talk about "all you hard headed americans" if you said "here in las vegas" so you probably live in vegas. thats all i have to say<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. hey viperMS-4 in your other post in the taurus guys thread you said the supra had 750hp so everything you say is a load of s h i t.<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. this guys a freakin' ten year old idiot, just ignore him
     
  6. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from onlymopar</i>
    <b>this guys a freakin' ten year old idiot, just ignore him</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Agree!

    Plus some of the Japanese cars are alright(some).
    I don't mind Japanese cars like the Toyota AB Flug and the Mazda Rx8.<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. Everyone knows that any Dodge Viper could take out a Ferrari, and its funny because most Ferrari's are generally more expensive than Viper's. Example.........The Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT's base price is $160,000 The Ferrari F50's base price is $487,000. Thats more than double! who would pay more than double for a car when they can get better performance on a cheaper car? Not even a Ferrari F60 (Ferrari Enzo) with its 6.0 liter V12 Engine, 650 Horsepower, and top speed of 205+ mph can handle a Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT. The Ferrari f60 (Ferrari Enzo) is the updated version of a F50 and if an F60 can't beat the Hennessey then no type of F50 is even on the same level as this Hennessey, and the F60 is even more expensive than the F50 ($500,000). So shut your mouth and run back to Italy and tell the people at Ferrari they are no competition for AMERICAN Dodge Viper's.
     
  8. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BangeR</i>
    <b>Everyone knows that any Dodge Viper could take out a Ferrari, and its funny because most Ferrari's are generally more expensive than Viper's. Example.........The Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT's base price is $160,000 The Ferrari F50's base price is $487,000. Thats more than double! who would pay more than double for a car when they can get better performance on a cheaper car? Not even a Ferrari F60 (Ferrari Enzo) with its 6.0 liter V12 Engine, 650 Horsepower, and top speed of 205+ mph can handle a Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT. The Ferrari f60 (Ferrari Enzo) is the updated version of a F50 and if an F60 can't beat the Hennessey then no type of F50 is even on the same level as this Hennessey, and the F60 is even more expensive than the F50 ($500,000). So shut your mouth and run back to Italy and tell the people at Ferrari they are no competition for AMERICAN Dodge Viper's.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    EXACTLY! All vipers are really good cars for the money.
     
  9. Yes, and that's what a lot of people don't look at, for the money!
     
  10. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from onlymopar</i>
    <b>Yes, and that's what a lot of people don't look at, for the money!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I agree, there are tons more people that would have enough money to buy a Viper than an F50.
     
  11. The viper has the best stock performance you can get for the money (STOCK!!) although that's just my opinion.
     
  12. I definatly agree with you on that one! So much speed/performance for such a low price compared to other cars with that type of performance. And all Vipers look great too!
     
  13. alright were not talking about the f50gt now are we. we are talking about the hennesy and the F50. so by pear performance the hennesy will win over all by far. if u go look at the performance the ferrai is 3.7 0-60 and the viper 2.7 and top speed, the ferrari 202 and the viper 235! and even if you do compare the "F50GT" the vipers acceleration is way faster and the F50GT topspeed is 1 mhp fast which doesnt make a difference at all. so yea there u have it. if you dont beleive me you can go check buddy.
     
  14. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from snobrd4life303</i>
    <b>alright were not talking about the f50gt now are we. we are talking about the hennesy and the F50. so by pear performance the hennesy will win over all by far. if u go look at the performance the ferrai is 3.7 0-60 and the viper 2.7 and top speed, the ferrari 202 and the viper 235! and even if you do compare the "F50GT" the vipers acceleration is way faster and the F50GT topspeed is 1 mhp fast which doesnt make a difference at all. so yea there u have it. if you dont beleive me you can go check buddy.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Very good but we all now how to get that information and even if it were the F50GT we were talkin' about the Hennessey Viper would still kill it!!!<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. Yep, this is one of the best cars of all time, yep.
     
  16. Now here are some comparisons that are a lot more fair than this stupid one. Here the model years are close etc.

    1996 Dodge Viper RT/10 - 410bhp@4600 rpm, 0-60 - 4.6 seconds, 170 mph
    1995 Ferrari F50 - 520bhp@8500 rpm, 0-60 - 3.7 seconds, 202 mph

    2000 Dodge Hennessy Viper Venom 800TT - 800 bhp@5500 rpm, 0-60 - 2.7 seconds, 235 mph (with a twin turbo, LMAO)
    1998 Ferrari F50 GT - 720 bhp@10500 rpm, 0-60 - 3.3 seconds, 236 mph

    Now those are some sad stats for Viper considering a two year technology and twin turbo advantage. And for those people arguing money and value, each Ferrari is HAND BUILT not mass produced thats why they are more expensive.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Ferrari F50 GT</i>
    <b>Now here are some comparisons that are a lot more fair than this stupid one. Here the model years are close etc.

    1996 Dodge Viper RT/10 - 410bhp@4600 rpm, 0-60 - 4.6 seconds, 170 mph
    1995 Ferrari F50 - 520bhp@8500 rpm, 0-60 - 3.7 seconds, 202 mph

    2000 Dodge Hennessy Viper Venom 800TT - 800 bhp@5500 rpm, 0-60 - 2.7 seconds, 235 mph (with a twin turbo, LMAO)
    1998 Ferrari F50 GT - 720 bhp@10500 rpm, 0-60 - 3.3 seconds, 236 mph

    Now those are some sad stats for Viper considering a two year technology and twin turbo advantage. And for those people arguing money and value, each Ferrari is HAND BUILT not mass produced thats why they are more expensive.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Err...Vipers are handbuilt too. Mass produced? LMAO!
    The really sad part is that the 800TT doesn't cost anywhere NEAR the price of the F50. To speak nothing of the regular Viper GTS, which as of '97 BTW, has the following stats:
    0-60: 4.0
    Top Speed: 193 mph.

    Do you have a road test where the F50 actually hit 60 in 3.7 AND topped out at 202 mph? Do you have an actual road test of the F50 GT?
     
  18. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from onlymopar</i>
    <b>Yep, this is one of the best cars of all time, yep.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I agree, this with the Giwasa and Stryker Viper.
     
  19. Do you think you could provide any info on the Giwasa Viper? I already have plenty of info. on the Stryker, but I'd like a little on the other one, if you can.
     
  20. #46 Ferrar F50 GT, Aug 9, 2002
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  21. get rid of that ferrari.thx
     
  22. If you took a stock Viper, and took the rest of the money it would take to equal the price of a Ferrari, and put that into performance parts on the Viper, it would stomop anything under the sun! This thing is only $160,000, and the Venom 1000TT will be about $190,000. So why not buy a Viper, put the rest of the money into it, and show the Ferrari your taillights?
     
  23. People in this thread make me sad. They say that the Viper can out perform any Ferrari, and that a supra with 800 hp is just a stupid jap car. Doesn't anybody even understand why they can charge so much for the F50? Oh by the way, the 360 modena, and the 550 marenello are both as fast or faster than then Viper, but they are much much much much better because they are Ferraris and not some shitty Dodge. Ok, they cost more, you want a car that destroys the viper for the same/less money? The TVR Tuscan.

    This car isn't that great, its kinda stupid actually.

    Anyone who would take this car over a F50 is either a dumb American who loves engines that are big and produce low amounts of Horse Power, or people who don't know what the F50 are.

    Angus<!-- Signature -->
     
  24. To give you an idea, here is an overview of the Viper's handling potential.

    Slalom- Consistently over 70 mph. The personal best I've seen was I believe 73.6 mph, tested by Motor Trend, while declaring the Viper the record holder for the fastest production car through the slalom.

    Skidpad- Consistently pulls 1.0 g's. The best was 1.01 I believe for the GTS. The Viper GT2 may have pulled 1.02 g's, I'm not quite sure.

    The Viper does not brake faster than Ferraris (except the F50, for some strange reason). This is because of no ABS. I have never seen the Viper being tested with ABS (2001 and up), I don't know if such a test exists. With ABS it should be close in braking with its massive tires if not brake faster.

    Now, can the Ferrari 360 Modena, F355, 550 Maranello, 456 pull any of those handling numbers??

    If you question those times, don't take it up with me. I can't prove it to you because I don't have a scanner, however I am sure someone will clarify these numbers. These numbers are correct.

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