Re: Why don't they put a turbo/twin-turbo

Discussion in '2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R V Spec' started by Dark Jedi BDB, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. the spec v is a great car tho just needs more balls
     
  2. Why don't they put a turbo/twin-turbo

    The looks might kill, but the horses wont.
    Come on add some power to it to not waste the 6 speed transmision
     
  3. u deserve to die, mother#$%#er
    "let's make all the damn honda civics, mitsibishi mirages, nissan sentras, toyota corollas, and mzda proteges twin turbo!!!!"
    the companies made their money selling cheap cars(not necesarily bad cars, like the honda civic and the corolla)
    they know how to runn they business, and they know what they are dealing with, ASSHOLE, u better post something intelligent really fast<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. unless you own a pro drag team (ie. team apex integration) i think your gonna have i pretty tough time of twin turbocharging a 4 banger
    and then you wanna put in a front wheel drive car......have fun turning even the most expensive road tires to smoke while i walk the 1/4 faster
     
  5. I saw a site (izoom.com) where they had rigged up a testing mule with a bolt-on Eaton supercharger. It may be coming soon to a dealership near you.
    As far as z28vette's post, I'd say you should re-evaluate, man. For one thing, there's obviously a calling for performance 4's. Explain this car, the new civic si, and the subaru WRX. Some people enjoy fast, small cars, and a turbocharger on this car is a great idea. If you don't like it, you're welcome to keep driving a "cheap" car. Go drive a Kia.<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. ummm.....as for you saying the WRX is a 4 cylinder well thikn again its a 6 cylinder turbo charged AWD. Now the Spec V is the best bang for the buck in my mind. I got mine for 18k fully loaded and I have smoked a 2002 Nissan Maxima SE, Camaro RS, Mustang *v6* CRX's, Civics, Eclipses, Integras, and the list goes on. BuUt now for all the guys who actually know that they are talking about....how about this. I am oying with the idea in my head to make my Spec V even faster. 1 problem...THERE IS NO AFTERMARKET FOR IT YET!!! Now to compensate for that I am thinking of throwing in the Nissan Silvia's inline 4 *SR25DET engine* in my Spec V. Now here's the question...The 2001 Nissan Sentra SE came with the inline 4 SR25DE engine so that means that engine will be able to fit in the Spec V's engine bay since it has a 2.5 liter not the 2.0 liter compared to the 2001 SE. Now is there really a big difference between the SR20DE enigne out of the Sentra SE and the Nissan Silvia's SR25DET engines? According to one website the only difference between the two is that the Silvia's engine is turbocharger with an intercooler while the SE's is normally asperated. So you think it will fit? I would like ot hear your feedback about this because I am serioulsy thinking about doing this if it works. And then the Spec V will dominate all who comes near it!
     
  7. SHOboy get your facts straight. The WRX has a turbo flat 4, not a 6 cylinder.
     
  8. opps....sorry about that 6 cylinder thing about the WRX I thought that was what came with it
     
  9. Isn't your sentra a lease?
     
  10. Yes my Spec V is a lease but i have the thing for 39 months and by the time i get out of school I will have enough to buy it so I will own my Spec V by September this year. Which is good because by then Nismo will finally be in america so then it will be time to start playing around.
     
  11. Sounds good..this engine seems great for putting a turbo on, probably get it into mid 5s 0-60 at low boost.
     
  12. Well sorry to say I did beat a 2001 Maxima SE and if you want to ask the kid yourself his screen name is KCO31 he has aol. But yes I beat him in a race and once again you could have the fastest car out there but if your not the best driver then oh well sucks to be you. But the reason whhy the Silvia's engine's internals are better then the stock SR20DE engines is because it has the turbo on it meaning they need to build a more durable engine to keep up with the turbo so the engine doesn't melt down on you. because thats one reason why it fun to watch kids and adults alike throw on superchargers or turbo's or throw on NOS. In order for you to be able to those performance products to their max is that you need to have the engine rebuilt to support the extra hp and tq. because if not bye bye engine and hello meltdown
     
  13. hey man id like to see your spec v beat a 6 speed 2002 maxima se,it aint happenin
     
  14. JUST REMEMBER THE SPEC Vs' THAT WERE TESTED WERE NOT BROKEN IN YET
    THEY WERE UNDER THE 1000 MILE RANGE,
    HOW EVER THE ONE THAT I HAVE, HAS 867 KM. ON IT AND I MADE 0-60 IN 6.3,
    AND THE Q.MILE IN 15. FLAT.SO THINK ABOUT WHEN THAT ENGINE BREAK IN WHAT I CAN DO.
    AND IT IS TRUE THAT THIS CAR CAN RUN WITH MAXIMA SE.
    I DID IT,NOT OUTRAN IT BUT I WAS RIGHT THERE WITH IT.
    THEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHO'S DRIVING THE CAR. RIGHT!

    AND FLAT OUT I GOT ABOUT 153 MPH.
    NOT BAD FOR AH STOCK 4 CYL RIGHT!! AND FOR THAT PRICE... <!-- Signature -->
     
  15. Because this car is already good. 4-cylinder hitting 60 in 7 seconds flat, bone-stock is good! It'll probably hit 135+ mph in the top end and with the 17' 215/45 Z rated tires it'll grip the road like nobody's buisness. Besides, they have companies like Stillen to do that for them.<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. There are plenty of ways to tune a inline 4, and the most succesful interms of pwer output is a turbo. But putting a turbo on an NA built engine is a big deal. The engine bay had better be able to acomadate a hell of a lot of plumbing changes, and yes, the internals are almost certanly not going to hold up under anything more than weak boost which does not do much for you. Go to the vtec.com site and read about peoples stories of turboing thier car with out a packaged kit. They often do a real half assed job, with no intercooler, stock rods and pistons, and stock fuel system. Basicly they pump way too much into an engine that can not keep up. Thus it runs lean, on hot air (no intercooler), detonates alot, and melts pistons and throws rods.

    Basicly, unless you really want something to race and chase times with, don't get a turbo 4. They are more expensive new than this. This car is probably great fun for the money. Like the RSX or the Celica. Personaly, I'm getting a DSM (Talon TSi or Eclipse GSX 1st egn)<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> Not excactly an F-body killer, but it will keep up with an SS when I'm done. Faster than most of the imports out there and it will hold its own against Mustangs, GTP's and the low end euros no problem.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. Oh and the only way to do a twin turbo in an inline engine is with a sequential setup like in the Supra. Because there is only one manifold. Sequential turbos are not really neccesary on I-4's.<!-- Signature -->
     
  18. Ahem: If you're too stupid to realize, the spec-v is 6-speed. And from what I could tell, it'll smoke a maxima.

    Ciao!
     
  19. "ummm.....as for you saying the WRX is a 4 cylinder well thikn again its a 6 cylinder turbo charged AWD"

    uh...hate to bust ur bubble but the Impreza WRX is a turbocharged flat four. the legacy is the one with the six cylinder engine.

    but anyway...i still think nissan should've used the SR20VE or SR20DET instead of this motor. seems to me like they're repeating what they did with the 240SX. it would've made more sense using a motor that's already in production to save R&D money. first thing i'd do if i get this car is scrap this motor and put in the real motor, the SR20DET. nissan need to fire the guy that made the decision not to put in the SR20 motor.
     
  20. dude, you don't need to. It has plenty of power! Why would you even waste your time??
     
  21. yes SHOboy did beat a 2001 maxima se, i know this because i was the one that he raced, unfortunately i have an automatic otherwise it would have been a completely different story, so dont get such a big head dave. next time we will take it over 100 and then see who is behind who. one other thing, dave you know 2 people with wrx's, why in the world did you think they had a 6?
     
  22. spec v #'s
    unbroken engine:

    0-60: low 7's
    1/4 mile: mid 15s
    top speed: either 130 or 143mph.
     
  23. hey i don't know much about these because in australia we don't get them. they sound like a good car, but are they? Can some one say tell me some info on the car? Is this quicker then a RSX?
    I am a GT-R fan, and if Nissan put a R on this just to sell it and not by its performance someone should be shot.
    Info plz.
     
  24. The SR20DET engine is one of the best engines of any inline-4. The internals of this engine are able to withstand power of up to 400hp. Now with this all said the power to the wheels will be around 220 to 230 under stock conditions of that motor with an intercooler, fuel system and exhaust. However, the States or Canada never saw this motor in the 240SX or the new SPEC-V like Australia and Japan not because Nissan is "stupid" or "wasting their time with R&D" as some have said but because North America tends NOT to buy turboed cars. NA prefers larger displacement. Hence, the success of F-body and Mustangs. Any person from N.A. wants big displacement NOT turbos. That is the sole reason why there are no turbos coming out of GM, Ford or Chrysler. Yah, GM uses the supercharger and has done very well with it but only on select models and on a very reliable and with help from the large displacment of the 3800 Series II V6 engine. And Chrysler always looks to Mitsubishi for turbo power.
    For the potential buyers or already owners of the SPEC-V, you've been had by North America's tendancy to want big engines. The aftermarket for the SPEC-V will be small because Nissan doesn't use that engine (QR45) in Japan or Australia and, my friend, that is where all the aftermarket parts will be coming from. Do yourself a favour, pick up a nice last gen 240SX and drop in a SR20DET engine. The conversion is simple (240SX's from Japan/Australia came with the turbo engine stock) and the damn car is rear wheel drive! Don't you know that any decent performance car needs it! Now stop your bragging of beating a damn heavy and automatic laden Maxima because last time I checked that was a FAMILY car. Try to keep your Jap tuner cars up with the V8 big boys to impress true car guys.
     
  25. the motors that would be good in this car would be the SR20DET from the pulsar gti-r and the SR20DE from the G20 or primera. of course the ones from the silvia would not fit. the amount of after market parts for these engines are amazing. i just can't understand why nissan would put any other motor in this car.
     

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