RICE ROCKETS SUCK

Discussion in '2002 Honda Civic Type-R' started by rthompson, Aug 9, 2002.

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    printing a few different name badges are pretty cheap, how old are you ?<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. ok, i look through the forums for this thing and i hate all people who worship japanese cars. my mom had a toyota camry which is very unreliable, while my dad and sister and myself own american cars which havent had problems, whiel toyota does make great cars theyre not perfect, and american companies make great cars too, so you need to shut up. about the great 100hp per litre, its on inline engines, INLINE ENGINES MAKE MORE HP PER LITRE, its a simple fact, plus those hondas use high ass compression ratios which is where they get their powert from. ok, next topic, american engines not being adavanced, i mean come on, there are advanced engines, but think about whats in the cars, you can say all you want about the camaro engine (ls1) but that camaro will smoke your civic, it gets the job done. the reason americans still use pushrod engines is because they are cheaper to produce, and give good low end torque, that is why camaros will dominate any car for the price. and cobras use 4 cam engines, which when accurately tuned make much more power than the bmw engines, OO BUT THEYRE GERMAN!!!, check out the fr500, and vipers, they dont make hp per litre, but look at the engine in real life, its not that big,it just displaces alot, but then again, it does make alot of power at all RPM, which adds greatly to the awesome handling of a viper bc it can leave a turn alot faster than say a nsx. and on to handling...mustang and camaros get the job done, they use solid axle rear ends, this makes them cheaper but not the best handlers, they can be made to handle well though, but a live axle does give them advantage in straight line accel. cobras corvettes and vipers all use IRS, and they all handle great, as some1 needs to point out, diff. cars are made for different purposes. a guy who buys a camaro is not looking to race a porsche on a back road, but when he does buy that he does whoop any car that he faces at a stoplight, which is what really matters. we dont race on paper, you dont roll up to a stoplight and brag about how much horsepower you amke per litre, its whos car is fastest. winning is winning<!-- Signature -->
     
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    i could smoke any damme ricerocket with my mustang and my crew too
     
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    all you newbies make me laugh. do you not think that PERHAPS someone has said all that crap before? are you SO original? let me answer for you so you dont have to think too hard. no. LOL you all think that you know so much. you probably will never even read my response.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>all you newbies make me laugh. do you not think that PERHAPS someone has said all that crap before? are you SO original? let me answer for you so you dont have to think too hard. no. LOL you all think that you know so much. you probably will never even read my response.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    He actually made some very good points. It's not about racing on paper, it's about driving a performance car on the street. You pull up next to a Camaro at a light, he's not going to care how much horse power per liter you have. He's going to care weather or not he can smoke you.

    Let me alaborate on his horse power per liter point. You dumb Honda people brag all the time about horse power per liter. Here's a news flash for you... IT'S EASIER TO GET HP PER LITER FROM A SMALL ENGINE!
    I've explained why in a couple other posts, and I'll explain it again. When horse power is calculated the Torque is multiplied by the RPMs. The REAL tricky thing is to get a lot of torque out of a small engine, not horse power. Honda engines STILL have very little torque, it's just higher on the RPM band. So when you multiply them together (torque x RPM) you end up with much more HP then you have torque. American cars have higher horsepower because they have more torque, it's just lower on the RPM band (which is actually a good thing). Would you rather have 350lbs of torque at 4000RPM, or 150lbs of torque at 8000RPM?
    It's much more difficult to increase the RPMs on a large V8, because it's harder to control larger, heavier components. If it were easy then there would be 1000 horse power engines everywhere.

    THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!
    The day someone is able to show me a small 4 banger, that's N/A, gets the same amount of torque as a V8, for the same amount of money please let me know.
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    jappenes cars are sweet. they can be built up more then any car (sometimes) paint, ground efects, lighting, sound systems its great what you can do with them its great. <!-- Signature -->
     
  7. #7 beliveinfiction, Aug 9, 2002
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    Of course you can "build up" japaneese cars more. They NEED body kits to give a run of the mill commuter car some "style" if thats what u want to call it. Corvettes, Comaros, M3's, porches ect. dont have any body kits because they are built with a low aggressive stance. Ulike some ECONO commuter car.

    Visit my anit honda web site FACTS not ignorant opinion:
    www.geocities.com/gohomerice/pbHondaSucks.html
     
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    your all a load of inbred yank bastards,
    jap cars are the way forward and just look @ the motor raceing scene jap cars rule
    take the pikes peak hill climb, an american race, but no american cars all japs, and the chapion is a crap jap 4x4, you can't even beat that so what chance have you got against skylines and supras
     
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    Brit racer, you state some uninformed bullshit, after Seans' over-expainatory post, you're just giving Japanese cars a worse name. But if you want to match facts to facts, here -

    The Baja 500 is the greatest off-road race in the world, won 6 years in a row by a Toyota truck - with an AMERICAN CHEVY V-8. Why? Because the little Toyota 4-banger they come with stock can't even come close to cutting it.

    I love rice rockets - Honda makes some of the best motorcycles in the world. Hell, the CBR 1000-R CVT has more torque than there cars do!!

    I hat rice BURNERS.
     
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    if vettes, camaros, porsches are so good then why do you see more civics on the roads then all of those cars combined? price plays a huge role in people buying cars these days, and civics are one of the most affordable cars on the market. i could buy a '00 civic si for less than $15G's then build that engine up to become a supercar and even with all the money invested into tuning the civic si + purchase price it still doesnt come close to the purchase price of a porsche. civic engines last a hell of a lot longer than say a vette or porsche engine, and there are facts and data to prove that. pick your wording carefully when trying to roast a civic b/c you could be very wrong, and in this case you are. i dont hate on american cars, but civics are the thing now-a-days.
     
  11. #11 beliveinfiction, Aug 9, 2002
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    You ricers just dont get it do you? CIVICS are every day run of the mill commuter cars and that is why u see more of them on the road and YES you are right because price dose pay an important part. People dont buy Corvettes, Camaros, Porshes ect. to take their kids to school and carry groceries around. As for your economical build up of a '00 Civic Si. It retails for just under 20 grand. A Z28 Comaro retails for about 25 grand. An Si is about a 16 second car the Z28 si a 13 second car. Now you could slap a 4 grand turbo in an attempt to run with a z28 and (i'm going out on a limb here) lets say it can meet it or beat it.(not bloody likely) Now that civic that could easily run for 150,000 miles (as can a comaro) would be luck to make it to 35,000 miles. That Turbo would fry that engine like popyes chicken. You would virtually have to replace every part in the engine and replace the transmission in order to get it to run realitivly trouble free for 100 thousand plus miles. To do that it would well exceed the price of a Z28 Comaro.

    Check out this site, it will shoot down about any other "quality" of a civic www.geocities.com/gohomerice/pbHondaSucks.html









    if vettes, camaros, porsches are so good then why do you see more civics on the roads then all of those cars combined? price plays a huge role in people buying cars these days, and civics are one of the most affordable cars on the market. i could buy a '00 civic si for less than $15G's then build that engine up to become a supercar and even with all the money invested into tuning the civic si + purchase price it still doesnt come close to the purchase price of a porsche. civic engines last a hell of a lot longer than say a vette or porsche engine, and there are facts and data to prove that. pick your wording carefully when trying to roast a civic b/c you could be very wrong, and in this case you are. i dont hate on american cars, but civics are the thing now-a-days.
     
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    I agree with superhonda. Honda focuses on family cars, not sports cars. And GM is for all-purpose. But for now, the economy is going down, no one would buy a sports car, not just becuz of the price, but how much fuel does the car take. Most people don't need speed, they want a car that meets their needs. And the Civic is able to do that. Just look at the fuel economy, around 40mpg. And look at a sports car, 20mpg. And look at the displacement of Civic, 1.7L, most people think the higher the displacement is, the more fuel the car would drink. That's why more people buy Civics than Cavaliers and Neons, they are all 2Ls. And civics are fast enough to do the job, around 9 sec from 0-60. It's a compact car, that's good enough. An automaker doesn't just make luxury and sports cars, but economy cars, too. That's why Honda and Toyota are so sucessful and still making money while Ford, Chrysler and GM losing money. Another thing why American automakers are losing money is because they have many duplicated cars. Like Ford Explorer( or Expedition,, I forgot which one) and Mercury Mountaineer; Dodge Caravan and Plymouth Voyageur(although it's gone), GMC safari and Chevy Astro; Camaro and firdbird, etc. In the other hand, I don't see any Jap cars that are duplicated. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    Beliveinfiction,
    That website you posted is priceless! It's already on my favorites list<!-- Signature -->
     
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    my dad gots a stang and it is nice an fast. but it breaks down every other day.itz a 98 stang cobra convertible. mad hot but i cant wait till he gets the rsx. Now dats da shit. stop dissin azianz. im italian but mah friends r azian and italian and we make the best damn cars on earth. think twice about rice rockets suck. it might just bite u in the azz.<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. #15 HoNdA tYpE R, Aug 9, 2002
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from beliveinfiction</i>
    <b>You ricers just dont get it do you? CIVICS are every day run of the mill commuter cars and that is why u see more of them on the road and YES you are right because price dose pay an important part. People dont buy Corvettes, Camaros, Porshes ect. to take their kids to school and carry groceries around. As for your economical build up of a '00 Civic Si. It retails for just under 20 grand. A Z28 Comaro retails for about 25 grand. An Si is about a 16 second car the Z28 si a 13 second car. Now you could slap a 4 grand turbo in an attempt to run with a z28 and (i'm going out on a limb here) lets say it can meet it or beat it.(not bloody likely) Now that civic that could easily run for 150,000 miles (as can a comaro) would be luck to make it to 35,000 miles. That Turbo would fry that engine like popyes chicken. You would virtually have to replace every part in the engine and replace the transmission in order to get it to run realitivly trouble free for 100 thousand plus miles. To do that it would well exceed the price of a Z28 Comaro.

    Check out this site, it will shoot down about any other "quality" of a civic www.geocities.com/gohomerice/pbHondaSucks.html









    if vettes, camaros, porsches are so good then why do you see more civics on the roads then all of those cars combined? price plays a huge role in people buying cars these days, and civics are one of the most affordable cars on the market. i could buy a '00 civic si for less than $15G's then build that engine up to become a supercar and even with all the money invested into tuning the civic si + purchase price it still doesnt come close to the purchase price of a porsche. civic engines last a hell of a lot longer than say a vette or porsche engine, and there are facts and data to prove that. pick your wording carefully when trying to roast a civic b/c you could be very wrong, and in this case you are. i dont hate on american cars, but civics are the thing now-a-days. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE learn to spell chumbut.italianz rule<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Italians make overpriced underpowered cars.

    Never bit me in the ass. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from superhonda</i>
    <b>if vettes, camaros, porsches are so good then why do you see more civics on the roads then all of those cars combined? price plays a huge role in people buying cars these days, and civics are one of the most affordable cars on the market. i could buy a '00 civic si for less than $15G's then build that engine up to become a supercar and even with all the money invested into tuning the civic si + purchase price it still doesnt come close to the purchase price of a porsche. civic engines last a hell of a lot longer than say a vette or porsche engine, and there are facts and data to prove that. pick your wording carefully when trying to roast a civic b/c you could be very wrong, and in this case you are. i dont hate on american cars, but civics are the thing now-a-days.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Oh geeze, well buddy the reason there are more civics on the road is b/c they are commuter cars. great for picking up groceries, and taking your daughter to soccer practice. You compare your civic si to a porsche, yeah the civic is cheaper. Well it ought to be, Nutless economy cars tend to be cheaper than porsches. Tuning a Civic takes away its only good qualities away(reliability, gas mileage). Add your turbo and nitrous, bye bye reliability, bye bye gas mileage. Also, your new turbo engine creates a lot of heat, you have big bulky heat shields that restrict air flow to the engine bay, and you have turbo lag. Compare the tuned civic to say, a camaro Z28 with a supercharger, stock, 22 g's 305 bhp, supercharger, depending on brand runs anywhere from 2-4 gs, usually boosts bhp around 40-50% Total Price:around 25 g's, for about 440 bhp. The civic would get trashed. It will never be a supercar, even with the coffee can muffler, the oversized wing, and the dragon stickers on it.
     

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