Should I wait X850 PE AGP Ver. or go 6800 Ultra

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by El Toro Furioso, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. I've got a GF4 Ti 440 at the moment.

    What CPU/Mobo/RAM are you running and how much of a performance increase did you see going up to a 6600 ?
     
  2. P4 2.4 GHz(not 2.4B, 2.4, which means 400Mhz FSB, not 533...sigh). Intel D850EMV2 mobo, 1GB PC800 RDRAM.

    3dMark 2001 SE score went up by only about 2000(10000 to 12000). Probably means my CPU is much more of a bottleneck than I though it'd be. 2003 score is in 8000, though I've never ran 2003 before with Ti. HL2 FPS probably went up by about 10-20 FPS, now with DX9 graphic instead of DX8. HDTV support much better with out of box resolution/refresh rate support across all resolution instead of only 2-3 working one on GF4. I think I must say overall the jump is not as significant as I expected, but I am very happy about the HDTV support, and the gain in performance is appreciatable.....I guess it's a testiment to how good the GF4 was, compare to the whole FX series.....
     
  3. Yeah, thats why I'm not sure what to aim for when I get a new card, it's crazy to think that in raw number crunching a GF4 Ti is as good or better than many of the current mid-range cards.

    Until games NEED the newer features I think I'll just keep looking and not jump in unless there is a very good deal on a top end card.

    I'm in no big rush to upgrade, I was just curious.
     
  4. 6600GT now is dirt cheap....can be had for under 250 cdn....which is annoying as I bought it for tad over 300 cdn.....lol
     
  5. Ouch, Uk prices for AGP cards are:

    PNY GeForce 6600 GT 128MB GDDR3 - £140 ($330 CDN)

    XFX GeForce 6800 128MB GDDR3 - £210 ($500 CDN)
    Asus GeForce 6800 GT 128MB GDDR3 - £220 ($525 CDN)

    Asus GeForce 6800 256MB GDDR3 - £265 ($630 CDN)
    Inno GeForce 6800 GT 256MB GDDR3 - £275 ($655 CDN)

    PNY GeForce 6800 Ultra 256MB GDDR3 - £410 ($975 CDN)


    PCIe are about £10 cheaper ...





     
  6. i think its the x800's are worth buying
     
  7. I have the XFX 128MB 6600GT AGP....
     
  8. nice, but you said they are about $250 CDN, I can't get one for much under $330 CDN <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/sad.gif"></A>
     
  9. Leadtek GFX-6600GT 128Mb *RB* $335.00 can

    where you buy RM?
     
  10. #36 xDRAN0x, Dec 16, 2004
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  11. the worst part obviously was that I didn't buy it at the price.....I bought it 1.5 week before they drop the price.....<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/sad.gif"></A>
     
  12. Bought my 9800 Pro last year @ FutureShop for 299$ can, and now it's still at 350$ <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/grin.gif"></A>
     
  13. SLi MoBo's are PCI-Express. The thing is, they need a minimum of two slots, and 16 lanes to split each way. Other than the nForce 4 based boards, only Intel Xeons support it.
     
  14. i just bought the 6800 Ultra (evga one) and DAM that thing is #$%#ing BIIIIIG <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/amazed.gif"></A> now comes the next question of a power supply wich will have sufficient hard drive cables, for the card and for my 3 Western Digital 250 SATA hard drives, as i dont think that 500 watt power supply that came with my A-Top technologies z- alien case will fullfill that.

    ah well ill go for a PC power and cooling 510 express, 600watt one, i mean it had 12 SATA power cables. unlike the regular 510 deluxe


    thanks you guys i am VERY happy with my purchase <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>, and i know it will be fast and awesome.


    ahem now i need suggestions on the following:

    Power supply (my original idea Pc intel CPU (my original ideas 3.0GHZ prescott Socket 478 or 3.2GHZ prescott Socket 478)

     
  15. If you're going to benchmark or something, the more wattage the better. Otherwise, you don't need an insane PSU. I have a eVGA Ultra, and it's using a Raidmax 420 watt. Although I may not have that many IDE parts (a WD Raptor 10k RPM, a LG DVD-RAM, and a Seagate 250GB 7200RPM) it's also powering a pretty powerfull water pump. So, 400+ should work. 450 might be better with more peripherals. Your 500W should be more than adiquate. SLi, with Ultras, only requires a 500.
     
  16. heres what i plan on getting. (besides the obvious)



    Case:A-Top Z-alien
    MBO:ASUS P4C800-E deluxe
    CPU: Intel Pentium 3.2 OR 3.4 Extreame edition or just the E version 1MB with an L2 chace
    Memory: 1gig Corsair XMS TWINX1024-3200XLPRO
    Video card: evga Nvidia 6800 Ultra
    Sound card(s) Creative Sound blaster 2ZS Platinum
    Speakers : Logitec Z-680
    System Hard drive: WD 250GB SATA
    Secondary drive: 500GB RAID 0 (2 WD 250 SATA HDs)
    power supply: PC power and cooling Turbo cool 510 express (if possible) or 510 deluxe
    dvd/cd burner: nec DVD+_ R/+-RW drive
    dvdrom drive: Pioneer DVD drive
    monitor:veiw sonic or some other flat screen LCD or CRT up to 1600 X 1200
    ATI tv tuner
     
  17. Everything I see there is crazy with heat. System cooling? What have you thought of there?

    The RAM is ungodly hot. For that I'd recomend a Zalman fan bracket, so you can place a 80MM overhead the heatspreaders.

    The CPU, Thermalright XP-120. It's a heatsink only so you need a fan. That fan I would suggest a Evercool 120mm. For looks, I would personally get an alluminum. Thats up to you though.

    VGA - The very best air cooler avaliable. The Artic Cooling NV Silencer 5. The best part: it ducts hot air straight out the back. Keeps everything cool.

    And remember case cooling. Two 80mm's front intake, two back exaust. Minimum. 90 or 120 mm fans can push MUCH more air, and quiter too. If your case supports it, those are what to get.


    Don't forget the Arctic Silver 5.
     
  18. #44 El Toro Furioso, Dec 16, 2004
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    for the CPU im planning on getting a Zalman copper(or the copper and aluminum) cpu cooler it has a 120mm fan on it and the #$%#ing heatsink is bloody HUGE
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-118-115&depa=0

    i thoght the cooler on the card was sufficient? and that air cooler was only if you were overclocking the GT? odd.


    ive been thinking of getting a few 120mm fans replacing the front fan with two 120mm ones and two for the back as well or two 80mm for the back if that wont support it.


    as for the thermal grease i was going for JUST that <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>


    i was also planning on getting this for my hard drives:

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=674609&CatId=495
     
  19. #45 Vanilla Ice, Dec 16, 2004
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    Zalman specialize in quiet cooling solutions. And they're the very best at it. They don't work in the best performance sector though. Pluss, I had a Zalman CPU cooler before and I had trouple fitting in in my case (Lian Li 65).... It was an older model (socket A), but it looked pretty similar. I said it before. Prescotts have a habbit of getting over 70*C. I would get somthing a little more powerfull. The XP-120 only supports a 120mm fan. So it'll be quite as hell (less than 25dB), but it'll push air like crazy (80CFM or more).

    The NV Silencer it a premo cooler. My stock cooled 6800 got over 55*C AT #$%#ING IDLE. 65 load. Though even if it's not for performance, I'd still get it. It's one of the quitest coolers around. Not like the stock vacuume cleaner on the Ultra. It lasts forever too. With it directing the hot air directly out, it'll help the overall system cooling too.

    And the thing about HDD cooling is it's useless. Intake fans are right over the HDD tray. They get all the air first, while it's cold. They don't get that hot anyway. I wouldn't waste my money on it.
     
  20. i might not go for the vga thing cause well i mean the stock fan is already HUGE in and of itself, and since im not gonna be overclocking the card really for a while its really of no use, plus dismatling somthing like that is kinda something that makes me queezy. so i might just get a vantec spectrum PCI card and place it right under the card.
     
  21. SC.net #$%#ed up. See my accual post. Really, the stock cooler is a peice of shit. In 3DMark05, under the stock cooler I was still getting artifacts at the stock #$%#ing speed. Water solved it pretty well. With the experiance I've had with Arctic Cooling VGA products, it'll work great.
     
  22. HMM in that case i might get the Artic NV 5 as you stated, i mean hell i dont want to fry that card i spent 541 bucks on it. did you have any trouble fitting it on your ultra? i mean people on new egg have been saying that they have had major trouble with it, cause it was more designed for the 6800 GT, and its ays that you have to cut a part of it in half of whatever. that is what scares/stresses me out. if thats the case then ill have it professionally installed.


    leme check on that cpu cooling set up if its more expensive etc i might just as well go with the one i said about.
     
  23. DAM 67 BUCKS?!?!?!?? for a HEATSINK?!?!?
     
  24. I don't use it. I said I use water cooling.

    In the times I have used it before, it cooled like crazy, is ultra silent, and wan't hard to install. The GT and Ultra are pretty much the same cards, minus the clocks, molex connectors, and jumpers. If it fits on one, it fits on the other.
     

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