Re: so its the first production car with a 7-speed gear box "#$%# off, you've said on several occasions that the 16/4 has never been tested without mentioning speed or acceleration. As for your wording on the stages, it's not concept, prototype, production over here, as I said, the differences we have on that are most likely down to location." 1. I never once stated the 16/4 has never been tested all together, had you actually read anything i wrote you would have noticed that i said the 16/4 has not been testes in top speed or 0-60. Had the 16.4 been tested in topspeed or 0-60 Bugatti would have no need to estimate times now would they? Yet Bugatti still estimates topspeed and 0-60 of the veyron 16/4. 2. As i stated before every vehicle manufacturer in the world goes by those 3 stages which i have mentioned time and time again, I also mentioned time and time again that some of those 3 stages might have sub stages (ie the hot phase you were speaking of) however as you did not read nor comprehend anything i have written i shouldnt expect you to know that. And finally - "it has been tested. tested in philadelphia. ya, philly!" The 16/4 has not been tested in top speed or 0-60 as Bugatti themselves have stated many times, thus the reason they still Estimate both thetop speed and 0-60 time. When the 16/4 is tested for top speed and 0-60 it will not be tested in the US.