Sorry McLaren lovers but the numbers say it all !!!!!

Discussion in '2002 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron Preproduction' started by deepangel_22, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: Sorry McLaren lovers but the numbers say it all !!!!!

    i dont care what u McLaren idiots think: power is everything! The veyron has power: LOT'S OF IT! and it looks good too... way better than any McLaren shit.


    By the way, has anyone actually seen a W16 or W18? i mean i person, THEY'RE HUGE!
     
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    mclaren people have really bad taste if you cant see the beauty of this car and bogie4646 is right you are gettin a good deal on the Veyron compared to the mclaren but my favorite thing about the mclaren that the bugatti doesnt have is the middle drivers seat.
     
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    Everything you guys are saying is true. The Bugatti Veyron is a monster on wheels. But you gotta remember that when Bruce McLaren designed the McLaren F1 series, he wasn't looking for speed; He was looking for quality. He spent so many years dreaming and looking over plans for these cars, he kinda forgot about speed. I mean, if you lok at a McLaren, you see a low-sitting, wide supercar. If you look at a Bugatti, you see a luxurious coupe with butiful colours. They are both equally matched, just in different departments. You must admit, if you had the $, you buy a McLaren, wouldn't you? <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
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    Yo Deepangel_22, ya' jackass! I like this car just as much as the last auto-geek, but power ain't shit! A car is nothing without quality! That's why nobody likes the Chevy Corvette Sledgehammer! That's strong and fast too, but I had never even heard of it before I visited this page! I mean, it was machine built! I believe power is important, but if you think that it is more important than quality and hardyness, you should leave this site. It is dedicated to SUPERCARS!<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. I saw some members defending the McLaren but lets get realistic here. This car is a Monster on wheels !!!! 1001 freaking horsepower V16 Quad turbos. 0-60 in 3 flat and a mind blwoing top speed of 250+ mp/h... Come on guys the numbers says it all...This car will blow the Mclaren off the road. It will have no chance against this Beast. Im being nautral cuz im a Lambo man and would love to see a Lambo with these figures!!!! That doesn't mean that i wouldn't love to own this car!

    Best Regards<!-- Signature -->
     
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    i don't know about that, this car is a beast, needless to say, and it doesn't only have hp like a lot of fast cars, it has torque too, but the W16 quad turbo engine has to weigh A LOT! the McLauren has an unbelievable 554 bhp per ton!! this car will have a tough time beating that with an engine that big. i can't say for sure with an unavailable curb weight. btw, does anyone know the curb weight?<!-- Signature -->
     
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    they just about put the extremes into this "car"

    great price for the performance too

    i wonder if the acceleration is accually painful in this monster 'o metal

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    Numbers aren't everything. I'll admit that I like the Mclaren more, but it's just because it appeals to me more. I think every member on this forum has become calloused in terms of performance. In reality, both of these two cars have more than enough power and performance to land the driver in some real trouble. It really comes down to what you find most appealing about each car. Here are the reasons that I like the Mclaren more, thus making it better to me.


    The Mclaren has plasma-lined glass that prevents the windows from fogging or icing.

    The Mclaren has a central-seat driving position.

    The Mclaren is made by my favorite F1 team.

    The Mclaren has an on-board modem so the factory can check up on it.

    The Mclaren has a naturally aspirated engine.

    The Mclaren is rear-wheel drive.

    The Mclaren has a manual transmission.

    The Mclaren doesn’t have unneeded drivers aids.

    The Mclaren isn’t as flashy. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    lets see buggati 4 turbos mclaren.... 0...thats as many as ....nevermind i cant say it my little bros watchin<!-- Signature -->
     
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    The Mclaren was born a decade ago, and its STILL close to the bugatti !!!

    Know one thing: the F1 isnt about too much power,less weight,torque or whatever... its all about brains..

    the F1 is the most clever car ever, and it'll stay that way..
    hats off to the guys behind the Mclaren, for its a truly a legend..
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Senna4ever</i>
    <b>The Mclaren was born a decade ago, and its STILL close to the bugatti !!!

    Know one thing: the F1 isnt about too much power,less weight,torque or whatever... its all about brains..

    the F1 is the most clever car ever, and it'll stay that way..
    hats off to the guys behind the Mclaren, for its a truly a legend..
    </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    how does the car have brains? If you ask me, the Skyline is about brains, with part-time computer controlled 4WD, 4 wheel steering, it's on-board diagnostics system, stock on-board accelerometer, logging device, etc.

    and btw, Gordan Murray (or whatever his name was I dont remember it exactly) was obsessed with weight, it was his #1 concern when designing it.
     
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    BUt we forgot to mentoin the mclaren is n/a, and its 0-60 is faster
    OH YEAA, but this car still kicks ass!!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    yeah that only proves that germany has the last word in supersports cars, the last fastest car (the mclaren) has a BMW engine, and this bugatti has been payed by Volkswagen AG who tells Bugatti everything to do, and it's true: the mclaren dominium has ended
     
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    and i forgotten saying that i read that the 0-60 real time is 1.8 secs. this car is a monster really, and you can take it 400+!!!! anything else?
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mclaren777</i>
    <b>Numbers aren't everything. I'll admit that I like the Mclaren more, but it's just because it appeals to me more. I think every member on this forum has become calloused in terms of performance. In reality, both of these two cars have more than enough power and performance to land the driver in some real trouble. It really comes down to what you find most appealing about each car. Here are the reasons that I like the Mclaren more, thus making it better to me.


    The Mclaren has plasma-lined glass that prevents the windows from fogging or icing.

    The Mclaren has a central-seat driving position.

    The Mclaren is made by my favorite F1 team.

    The Mclaren has an on-board modem so the factory can check up on it.

    The Mclaren has a naturally aspirated engine.

    The Mclaren is rear-wheel drive.

    The Mclaren has a manual transmission.

    The Mclaren doesn’t have unneeded drivers aids.

    The Mclaren isn’t as flashy. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    And the downsides of McLaren are:

    The Mclaren has a naturally aspirated engine.

    The Mclaren is rear-wheel drive.

    The Mclaren has a manual transmission.

    The Mclaren doesn’t have unneeded drivers aids.

    The Mclaren isn’t as flashy.
     
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    I'd take a manual over an automatic any day. The all-wheel drive and rear wheel drive don't mean very much.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    o-60 in 1.8 are you #$%#in crazy, say that shit again and ill smack the shit out of you. This can't go 0-60 in 1.8, thats just bullshit<!-- Signature -->
     
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    It's neither an auto or a manual...it's a semi-automatic in the style of F1 racing gearboxes, 7spds and all. As for AWD vs. Rear-wheel drive, it's all about traction, 4wheels vs. 2. You will most likely have more powerloss on the AWD unit, not to mention more weight, but you get a distinct advantage in grip over a similar car with only 2 wheels being driven.
     
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    I'll admit that I used to be a mclaren fan but that was years ago. Now there is a new car that has better performance and looks better. The Mclaren was amazing at the time but now there is a better one. Who cares if it has turbos you make it seem like that it is cheating when it's not it using better technology. I do prefer most german cars like porsche, but the bugatti is the new best car in my opinion other people can prefer the Mclaren but the Bugatti is better. take me for instance i would rather own a porsche but i'm not gonna start saying that bugatti sucks and a porsche would rock it.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Diablo 30th</i>
    <b>I saw some members defending the McLaren but lets get realistic here. This car is a Monster on wheels !!!! 1001 freaking horsepower V16 Quad turbos. 0-60 in 3 flat and a mind blwoing top speed of 250+ mp/h... Come on guys the numbers says it all...This car will blow the Mclaren off the road. It will have no chance against this Beast. Im being nautral cuz im a Lambo man and would love to see a Lambo with these figures!!!! That doesn't mean that i wouldn't love to own this car!

    Best Regards</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    It also depends on which McLaren u compare it to. The 95 McLaren F1 Limited would beat the Bugatti Veyron in terms of acceleration with a 0-60 time of 2.9 seconds.
     
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    u got a point there<!-- Signature -->
     
  22. Re: Sorry McLaren lovers but the numbers say it all !!!!!

    This is an amazing car, but why must we put down another amazing car to make this one seem better. The McLaren will always be a stunning car but to compare a car made in 1998 to a car for 2002 and say one is better than the other is absurd. Why not just enjoy both cars for what they are, true super cars, one of which is a legend and the other is sure to become one.
     
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    I would be happy with owning either one. Anyone who disagrees is just stupid.<!-- Signature -->
     
  24. Re: Sorry McLaren lovers but the numbers say it all !!!!!

    Uhhh! Yeah! I told you that a long time ago under MacDaddyArt! You wouldn't listen! It is faster, stronger, longer lasting, has a better engine... I could go on for years, but I won't. That is what you get for being the ignorant people you are.<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. Re: Sorry McLaren lovers but the numbers say it all !!!!!

    i think the bugatti has an edge over mclaren i mean 1001 hp this great mclaren is a great car but the bugatti is better mclarenhas some great little things in there but you can ask bugatti to put those in them of course for the right price so now bugatti is the best and the king of all cars.<!-- Signature -->
     

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