Sports teams not playing where they are from

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by CMG, May 26, 2014.

  1. So I just read that New York Jets, Giants and Red Bulls play their home matches in New Jersey, a completely different state from what their names suggest, and thought that this was strange.

    Then I realized that the football team from my home town Östers IF do not play in the east part of Växjö (Öster means East), so I guess this is the case for them as well, although it's still in the same town.


    Anyway, I think this is shit but somewhat understandable due to lack of space when building new stadiums or whatever. What do you think?



    Also, another question: Is it common in America to see teams being bought and moved to a completely different place in the country? I've heard of this on several places on American television, and I can only think of Wimbledon becoming MK Dons in England as a European example. Please fill up with further examples, it would be typical of me to forget some obvious case.
     
  2. bit weird yeah. does happen in russian competition as well. lot of them play in moscow iirc.
     
  3. they usually have their trainings there and then fly over to grozny or whatever to play their "home" match, yeah, haha.
     
  4. #4 nappyjb37, May 26, 2014
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    New York is a big city, and its metro area spans four states. You can get to MetLife Stadium (where the Giants and Jets play) via train directly from Manhattan with no transfers, so its not that crazy.

    Also, if a team is profitable it will not move. However, moving a team is a common alternative to folding. In hockey, the Calgary Flames were formerly the Atlanta Flames. The current Winnipeg Jets were formerly the Atlanta Thrashers (hockey doesn't do well in Atlanta). The Phoenix Coyotes were formerly the Winnipeg Jets (a different team, same name). The Colorado Avalanche were formerly the Quebec Nordiques. There have been many other examples. A big ole' list is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relocation_of_professional_sports_teams#Franchise_relocations_in_North_America
     
  5. yeah well, I can go to Warsaw with no transfers via train <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/PnutSpecial.gif"></A>

    that relocation wiki is interesting btw, thx <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  6. the stadiums they play in are sometimes near the city instead of in it because of land prices
     
  7. I meant a transit-type train, not some inter-city thing like Amtrak. I hope that was obvious <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>
     
  8. Sports teams in the US are just vehicles for advertising revenue.
     
  9. both of baltimore's current professional teams came from other cities and were both the browns. the orioles were the st louis browns and moved here in the 1950s. the ravens were the cleveland browns and moved here in the 1990s
     
  10. The maple leafs play in Toronto, but they might as well play on the moon considering how expensive the tickets are
     
  11. What bothers me is when a team moves to a different part of the country and keeps the same name, such as the New Orleans Jazz moving to Utah and still calling themselves Jazz. The Memphis Grizzlies are another example.
     
  12. la dodgers
    indy colts
    la lakers

    don't make sense either
     
  13. I was thinking about mentioning that Manchester United's stadium is not in Manchester, which is popularly pointed out by Manchester City fans. I think that this taunt doesn't hold up though since Trafford is still in the Greater Manchester county albeit not in the city of Manchester, so I never got on to that bandwagon.
     
  14. Actually you need to do a quick transfer in Seacaucus NJ to get to the Meadowlands from Penn Station.

    Not really a big deal. It's still a 30 min ride and its way better than driving and dealing with traffic and parking prices.

    There'd be a point here if there was room for big pro stadiums in NYC proper but there's barely room for baseball stadiums and basketball/hockey arenas. The Jets almost had a stadium built on the west side of manhattan above the train yards, probably the last open lot of that size in Manhattan, but the deal fell through.
     
  15. By the same token, northern NJ is properly within the NYC metropolis, not by legal boundary of course but by just about every other measure. Practically everyone who lives there has a job in the city. If they don't, the city is still their cultural and entertainment hub.
     
  16. I don't think it's a great idea to gather 40000 people into a stadium in Mahachkala
     
  17. #17 Big Rob, May 26, 2014
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    So, the Atlanta Braves are moving out of Atlanta in 2015 or 2016, getting a new stadium, etc. The place they're moving to is adjacent to I-75 and I-285, one of the most heavily trafficked highways and also the widest part of the entire interstate system. There's a lot of #$%#ing traffic around there.

    Atlanta has a public transit system and it's terrible. Like, unbelievably bad.

    Here's a map of the rail lines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MARTA_Rail_Map.svg

    See that light blue line going to the northwest, the one that DOESN'T have a rail line following it? That's I-75, and the intersection with I-285 is up there too. So, no train service to the new stadium.

    Well, they'll just build a railway up to there, right? Nope. Atlanta is inside Fulton county and the future stadium location is in Cobb county. Train service in Atlanta began in 1979 and since 1979 Cobb county has not allowed it to operate within its borders because they don't want BLACK PEOPLE from Atlanta to have easy access to that location. This is not a joke, and everyone in Atlanta knows this. Cobb county has its own bus system that will drop you off at a train station in Fulton county.

    Let me tell you how much of a hassle this is. I plugged my old work location (in Cobb county) and my house (in Fulton county) in to Google Maps. Using public transportation it would take me TWO HOURS to get home. Oh yeah, I'd have to DRIVE to the train station because Cobb county's buses don't stop near my work, I guess. If I just drove from work to my house it would take maybe half an hour. And I did, 5 days a week, for three years. No viable transportation options, other than driving, in a metropolitan area with a population of 5.5 million. Traffic is unimaginably bad.
     
  18. Over here, this usually happens when a team's stadium is not good enough, is under construction, or is not approved by the police. So they play someplace else. But it's usually not that far away and if it is, then not for a long time. I haven't heard about teams switching towns here, but some neighboring towns have joined forces into one team before.
     
  19. 28000 <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/PnutSpecial.gif"></A>

    I just had to wiki that, haha
     
  20. A friend and I were talking about this happening for Detroit teams.

    The Pistons play in Auburn Hills, the Lions used to play in Pontiac, both are about 30-40 minutes out of the core of the City.
     
  21. New Orleans teams actually play in New Orleans so thats kinda neat.
     
  22. (Woolwich) Arsenal moved to highbury
     
  23. The New York teams play largely in their home area, if not city/state. I don't have to worry, as I live in San Diego where the Chargers and Padres lose all of their games. Fair weather makes for fairweather fans.
     

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