Re: SVT Focus & Civic Si comparison When you want to talk about how fast a car is in a straight line, torque is what matters, everyone knows that torque is almost as important as hp, and I think everyone here knows that Hondas are horrible when it comes to torque. The 99 Si in the sedan body had I believe 160hp w/111 FT/LBS of torque, thats incredibly bad and the new Si isnt much different. I have an 02 SVT focus and I have raced it against a new Si out at the local track here in washington and it wasnt even funny, I didnt have any aftermarket pieces on my car yet so I belive we were both running stalk. But I still took him by about 2 car lengths, w/me running a 15.7 and him running a 16.1, which was really good on my part considering most magazine numbers post 15.8. BTW the SVT doesnt have LSD which really sucks because it makes it really hard to get a good start without breakin the tires loose. If it had LSD stalk it would be running low 15s high 14s. I have a few aftermarket parts on my car and Im running 15.3s and 0-60 in 6.8(measured with a G-Tech) but with LSD from Quaife I would probebly be running high 5s 0-60 and mid to high 14s in the 1/4. And I dont know who said the SVTs handling sucked earlier but it doesnt, it runs the slalom faster than a WRX and is in I would say the top 15 of best handling cars out on the market(excluding cars like the Enzo). As for my vote it goes to Ford anyday, I would never drive a Honda.