talk about a rip off

Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra' started by MalloryRacing, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

    AMEN to 84fordman!!! don't you just wish that kid's mom would squeal her raggedy-ass camaro into the garage and put his tired ass to bed??? nighty-night kiddo!
     
  2. #2 BMW M, Aug 9, 2002
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    84Fordman, you just keep getting dumber and dumber!!! You tell the other guy to compare a stock car to a stock car, but then you're too #$%#ed up to realize that this mustang is TUNED!!! You're an idiot! A stock SS would kill a stock Mustang GT, so quit your whining and don't wet your diaper you #$%#ing baby. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    With every post, you prove to me that all that "top mechanics" bullshit you fed me, was bullshit.

    This Cobra IS STOCK. Whether it rolls off the line with a blower (like this one) or supercharger (Like the Lightning) or turbos (Like the RX-7), it's still stock. If the blower/supercharger/turbo is in the vehicle's production plans, guess what? It's stock! TUNED is when someone gets to it AFTER it has rolled off the assembly line, like Lingenfelter or Alpina or Dinan or RENNtech.

    No where the hell did I say a GT would even race an SS? Come on you dumbshit, tell me. Once again, I have to spell it out for you:

    Mustang V6-Camaro V6
    Mustang GT-Camaro Z28
    Mustang Cobra-Camaro SS
    Mustang Boss-Camaro ZL-1

    DISCLAIMER: None of these vehicles are tuned, they are stock-stock, stock-stock, stock-stock, concept-concept. Use this as a guide for future reference.

    Jesus Christ....</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    In case you didn't notice this stang is tuned by SVT (the same company that tuned the Stryker Viper to about 1000 bhp). So YES, SVT goes under the same category as Renntech, Dinan, Koenig etc...
    Thus making the Stang GT and the Camaro SS the "fair" stock comparison.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Viper Stryker Twin Turbo tuned by SVT? ROFL!!!! OMG!!! I can't stop laughing...

    "SVSi is the first company to conduct research and development to bring the first intercooled twin turbo system specifically engineered for the Viper V-10 engine. The balanced and blue printed engine is machined to specification."

    - http://www.supercars.net/SDBQ?id=448

    Excuse me BMW M, where do you see SVT in that statement? Try no where! SVSi tuned the Viper!! LOL!!! So no, SVT does NOT go under the same category as RENNtech, Dinan, or Koenig.

    Let me spell it out for you s-l-o-w-l-y BMW M, because apparently I was typing it too fast for you to understand the past 12 times. SVT, Special Vehicles Team, is the name of John Coletti's Special Vehicle Engineering team, it is an IN-HOUSE development team at Ford, OWNED AND OPERATED by Ford. Mercedes-Benz does not own or operate RENNtech. BMW does not own or operate Dinan. Ferrari does not own or operate Koenig.

    Thus making your GT-SS comparison an unfair, insecure comparison based upon your total incompetence and lack of understanding of how the auto business works. Go back to bed, kid.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    AWWWWWWWWWWWW, my life is over now, I confused SVS with SVT. Unlike you I can admit to making mistakes. There have been numerous times where you have contradicted yourself on knowledge about imports. I don't tediously study domestics like you do. And you keep calling everybody a kid, but it seems that your the only kid around here, because you have enough time to sit at home beside your computer all day responding within a few minutes of everybody else's post. Get a life! <!-- Signature -->
     
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    Vettes Camaro's and firebirds have the shittiest reliabilty in the world. read consumer reports once in awhile.
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    Camaros and firebirds kick ass.
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    He is right though, Chevy, Pontiac, and most of GM scored some of the worst scores when JD Power & Associates polled car owners how many problems they currently had with their car. The industry average was 3.82 problems, but due to JD Power's policies, they did not post Chevy's or Pontiac's actual score due to it would be the most focused on and cars with the least amount of problems (Lexus namely) would get the smallest amount of press.<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

    Fordman, you could not tell the mustangs apart either on the road so Shut Up. Most mustangs Suck ass And will get beat by a dam , Eclips.
    A z06 looks like the z28 , whats wrong with you ?? Dont Hate on better cars than this cobra.


    Blinded by ford Pride
    NO ONE FEARS A MUSTANG ON THE ROAD
     
  5. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

    Geez kids.

    It comes stock, off the factory with the supercharger and so will the gt40 unless they go with the NA 6.8 V10 or the 6.0 V12. Supercharging a Z06 is modifying it.

    Here's a rule for you to understand: if it comes out of the factory with it it is stock, if it doesn't than it is not i.e. your supercharged z06

     
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    <b>Geez kids.

    It comes stock, off the factory with the supercharger and so will the gt40 unless they go with the NA 6.8 V10 or the 6.0 V12. Supercharging a Z06 is modifying it.

    Here's a rule for you to understand: if it comes out of the factory with it it is stock, if it doesn't than it is not i.e. your supercharged z06

    </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->SS and firehawks come outta the factory w/ the parts it has, yet YOU say it's modded.
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  7. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

    hey #$%#er this would beat a stock vette maybe not a z06 but who would even put this in the same league as a z06 i mean it is only about 18 grand more i mean come on

    now compare this to an ss that is around the same price and surposed to be the comparable car am i right

    this would smoke the ss hands down in a straight line and in the turns
    your just making excuses for your sorry ass ss that is now getting smoked by a sucky ford hey buddy thats your fault for buying a peice of shit chevy
     
  8. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

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    <b>Can just call them selves dumb. That means 84FordMan mainly


    The ss would beat this if you just put a supercharger on it.

    Oh yea it is all about stock forgot. sorry 84FORDMAN

    The z06 would burn this car.

    Forgot again the z06 is not made to compete with this. sorry 84FORDMAN

    GM is better than FORD.

    the mustang is just for losers

    Now stupid ford people reply to this and make an idiot of yourself</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Again why do you kids feel so insecure to say "For $29,000 I can make my mom's Camaro go really, really, REEEEAAAAALLLLY fast."

    How many times do I have to say this? Do NOT compare a tuned car or your tuned car to something that has just rolled off the factory line. That just goes to show how insecure you are.

    Of course it's all about stock, it's the only sane thing to do! Want me to play your game, about fantasizing about how "Throw a turbo on this, throw a supercharger on that.. and it would beat a stock car with no mods."

    Alright.. here's my game, Alan Johnson 4.9L Ford 300 racing heads (NHRA Approved, of course), single Schwitzer 4MD459 turbo with an air-to-ice water intercooler, Clifford Performance camshaft, Rhoades lifters, 3" straight pipe open exhaust, 4.10" gears, and Clifford Performance dual outlet exhaust headers. With that my "Stupid Ford" has over 650 HP at the wheels and could smoke your Z28, SS, etc. Camaros.

    Z28? SS? Huh? I'm sorry I can't hear you from all the way back there!

    Isn't that game fun? Now, kid, you know why you should compare stock to stock, or else you make yourself look like an idiot and a child.

    You are forgetful aren't you?<!-- Signature -->
     
  9. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

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    <b>Can just call them selves dumb. That means 84FordMan mainly


    The ss would beat this if you just put a supercharger on it.

    Oh yea it is all about stock forgot. sorry 84FORDMAN

    The z06 would burn this car.

    Forgot again the z06 is not made to compete with this. sorry 84FORDMAN

    GM is better than FORD.

    the mustang is just for losers

    Now stupid ford people reply to this and make an idiot of yourself</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Again why do you kids feel so insecure to say "For $29,000 I can make my mom's Camaro go really, really, REEEEAAAAALLLLY fast."

    How many times do I have to say this? Do NOT compare a tuned car or your tuned car to something that has just rolled off the factory line. That just goes to show how insecure you are.

    Of course it's all about stock, it's the only sane thing to do! Want me to play your game, about fantasizing about how "Throw a turbo on this, throw a supercharger on that.. and it would beat a stock car with no mods."

    Alright.. here's my game, Alan Johnson 4.9L Ford 300 racing heads (NHRA Approved, of course), single Schwitzer 4MD459 turbo with an air-to-ice water intercooler, Clifford Performance camshaft, Rhoades lifters, 3" straight pipe open exhaust, 4.10" gears, and Clifford Performance dual outlet exhaust headers. With that my "Stupid Ford" has over 650 HP at the wheels and could smoke your Z28, SS, etc. Camaros.

    Z28? SS? Huh? I'm sorry I can't hear you from all the way back there!

    Isn't that game fun? Now, kid, you know why you should compare stock to stock, or else you make yourself look like an idiot and a child.

    You are forgetful aren't you?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    do those same mods to a camaro ss, but have them to fit a chevy of course, and a camaro ss would smoke a mustang... no repalement for displacement
     
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    no replacement for displacement? hell, ford proved that wasn't true long ago...i.e. '95 5.0 mustang gt (stock of course) 215hp vs. a 2001 4.6 mustang gt at 260hp. sorry, but displacement is overrated. besides, a camaro with equal power would still be outdone on a road course. and, last time i checked, there were plenty of twists and turns between me and the nearest mcdonalds. a camaro can't pass a stang when it's buried nose first three feet into a ditch. one other thing about displacement vs. technology...and i know this is outside territory....but think a while on the honda s2000...or the new nissan altima and maxima. those four and 6 cylinder engines out perform most v8 machines you'll find today in their class. it took american car companies a long time to figure out how to implement technology, but obviously ford beat most others to the punch...including the now defunct camaro.
     
  11. #11 84FordMan, Aug 9, 2002
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    84Fordman, you just keep getting dumber and dumber!!! You tell the other guy to compare a stock car to a stock car, but then you're too #$%#ed up to realize that this mustang is TUNED!!! You're an idiot! A stock SS would kill a stock Mustang GT, so quit your whining and don't wet your diaper you #$%#ing baby. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    With every post, you prove to me that all that "top mechanics" bullshit you fed me, was bullshit.

    This Cobra IS STOCK. Whether it rolls off the line with a blower (like this one) or supercharger (Like the Lightning) or turbos (Like the RX-7), it's still stock. If the blower/supercharger/turbo is in the vehicle's production plans, guess what? It's stock! TUNED is when someone gets to it AFTER it has rolled off the assembly line, like Lingenfelter or Alpina or Dinan or RENNtech.

    No where the hell did I say a GT would even race an SS? Come on you dumbshit, tell me. Once again, I have to spell it out for you:

    Mustang V6-Camaro V6
    Mustang GT-Camaro Z28
    Mustang Cobra-Camaro SS
    Mustang Boss-Camaro ZL-1

    DISCLAIMER: None of these vehicles are tuned, they are stock-stock, stock-stock, stock-stock, concept-concept. Use this as a guide for future reference.

    Jesus Christ....</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    In case you didn't notice this stang is tuned by SVT (the same company that tuned the Stryker Viper to about 1000 bhp). So YES, SVT goes under the same category as Renntech, Dinan, Koenig etc...
    Thus making the Stang GT and the Camaro SS the "fair" stock comparison.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Viper Stryker Twin Turbo tuned by SVT? ROFL!!!! OMG!!! I can't stop laughing...

    "SVSi is the first company to conduct research and development to bring the first intercooled twin turbo system specifically engineered for the Viper V-10 engine. The balanced and blue printed engine is machined to specification."

    - http://www.supercars.net/SDBQ?id=448

    Excuse me BMW M, where do you see SVT in that statement? Try no where! SVSi tuned the Viper!! LOL!!! So no, SVT does NOT go under the same category as RENNtech, Dinan, or Koenig.

    Let me spell it out for you s-l-o-w-l-y BMW M, because apparently I was typing it too fast for you to understand the past 12 times. SVT, Special Vehicles Team, is the name of John Coletti's Special Vehicle Engineering team, it is an IN-HOUSE development team at Ford, OWNED AND OPERATED by Ford. Mercedes-Benz does not own or operate RENNtech. BMW does not own or operate Dinan. Ferrari does not own or operate Koenig.

    Thus making your GT-SS comparison an unfair, insecure comparison based upon your total incompetence and lack of understanding of how the auto business works. Go back to bed, kid.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Can just call them selves dumb. That means 84FordMan mainly


    The ss would beat this if you just put a supercharger on it.

    Oh yea it is all about stock forgot. sorry 84FORDMAN

    The z06 would burn this car.

    Forgot again the z06 is not made to compete with this. sorry 84FORDMAN

    GM is better than FORD.

    the mustang is just for losers

    Now stupid ford people reply to this and make an idiot of yourself</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Again why do you kids feel so insecure to say "For $29,000 I can make my mom's Camaro go really, really, REEEEAAAAALLLLY fast."

    How many times do I have to say this? Do NOT compare a tuned car or your tuned car to something that has just rolled off the factory line. That just goes to show how insecure you are.

    Of course it's all about stock, it's the only sane thing to do! Want me to play your game, about fantasizing about how "Throw a turbo on this, throw a supercharger on that.. and it would beat a stock car with no mods."

    Alright.. here's my game, Alan Johnson 4.9L Ford 300 racing heads (NHRA Approved, of course), single Schwitzer 4MD459 turbo with an air-to-ice water intercooler, Clifford Performance camshaft, Rhoades lifters, 3" straight pipe open exhaust, 4.10" gears, and Clifford Performance dual outlet exhaust headers. With that my "Stupid Ford" has over 650 HP at the wheels and could smoke your Z28, SS, etc. Camaros.

    Z28? SS? Huh? I'm sorry I can't hear you from all the way back there!

    Isn't that game fun? Now, kid, you know why you should compare stock to stock, or else you make yourself look like an idiot and a child.

    You are forgetful aren't you?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->





    You are probably the only kid on here. How do you waste all day on this site? Talk about loser</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I am the only kid here? I don't think so, child. The government sees me as an adult and taxes as an adult. I work (on cars) for a living, I pay bills, I pay taxes, therefore I am a kid? Do you do any of that stuff, kid?

    I do not waste all day on this site, it appears you do though. Look at the times when I post on this site, kid. It's after 9 PM EST, after I have gotten home from work and had my dinner. I work 7 days a week, 39 hour work weeks, so how can I spend all day on this site when I am at work under the hood of some dumb kid's car who thought it was, change your oil every 6,000 miles?

    But hey, what should I expect from a child when I put a statement before him and all he can retort with is a childish insult. When with a child, expect a child's mentality.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    do those same mods to a camaro ss, but have them to fit a chevy of course, and a camaro ss would smoke a mustang... no repalement for displacement</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    ROFL!!! 4.10" gears on an SS?!?! LOL!!! Kid, go back to bed and learn how cars work. Hmmm 31x10.5x16" tires on a Camaro SS.... ROFL!! Even though Alan Johnson does Chevy heads, the SS does not possess an engine large enough to use AJ racing heads, not unless you know of a stock SS with a 4" bore. Clifford Performance does not do 8 cylinder engines, only 4 & 6s, especially the inline sixes, like mine. For that turbo, you would probably have to get custom mounting and plumbing done for it to even work.

    You can't take an intelligent statement about one series of cars and turn around and say do all that to my car and I will smoke you. Cars just do not work that way.

    No repalement? More like impalement on the Camaro's end, as the Mustang Cobra blows past whatever Camaro is out on the road that day.

    LOL, thanks ffattack, I needed a good laugh!

    *Wanders off chuckling about a Camaro with 31x10.5 truck tires*<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Can just call them selves dumb. That means 84FordMan mainly


    The ss would beat this if you just put a supercharger on it.

    Oh yea it is all about stock forgot. sorry 84FORDMAN

    The z06 would burn this car.

    Forgot again the z06 is not made to compete with this. sorry 84FORDMAN

    GM is better than FORD.

    the mustang is just for losers

    Now stupid ford people reply to this and make an idiot of yourself</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Again why do you kids feel so insecure to say "For $29,000 I can make my mom's Camaro go really, really, REEEEAAAAALLLLY fast."

    How many times do I have to say this? Do NOT compare a tuned car or your tuned car to something that has just rolled off the factory line. That just goes to show how insecure you are.

    Of course it's all about stock, it's the only sane thing to do! Want me to play your game, about fantasizing about how "Throw a turbo on this, throw a supercharger on that.. and it would beat a stock car with no mods."

    Alright.. here's my game, Alan Johnson 4.9L Ford 300 racing heads (NHRA Approved, of course), single Schwitzer 4MD459 turbo with an air-to-ice water intercooler, Clifford Performance camshaft, Rhoades lifters, 3" straight pipe open exhaust, 4.10" gears, and Clifford Performance dual outlet exhaust headers. With that my "Stupid Ford" has over 650 HP at the wheels and could smoke your Z28, SS, etc. Camaros.

    Z28? SS? Huh? I'm sorry I can't hear you from all the way back there!

    Isn't that game fun? Now, kid, you know why you should compare stock to stock, or else you make yourself look like an idiot and a child.

    You are forgetful aren't you?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    84Fordman, you just keep getting dumber and dumber!!! You tell the other guy to compare a stock car to a stock car, but then you're too #$%#ed up to realize that this mustang is TUNED!!! You're an idiot! A stock SS would kill a stock Mustang GT, so quit your whining and don't wet your diaper you #$%#ing baby. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    84Fordman, you just keep getting dumber and dumber!!! You tell the other guy to compare a stock car to a stock car, but then you're too #$%#ed up to realize that this mustang is TUNED!!! You're an idiot! A stock SS would kill a stock Mustang GT, so quit your whining and don't wet your diaper you #$%#ing baby. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    With every post, you prove to me that all that "top mechanics" bullshit you fed me, was bullshit.

    This Cobra IS STOCK. Whether it rolls off the line with a blower (like this one) or supercharger (Like the Lightning) or turbos (Like the RX-7), it's still stock. If the blower/supercharger/turbo is in the vehicle's production plans, guess what? It's stock! TUNED is when someone gets to it AFTER it has rolled off the assembly line, like Lingenfelter or Alpina or Dinan or RENNtech.

    No where the hell did I say a GT would even race an SS? Come on you dumbshit, tell me. Once again, I have to spell it out for you:

    Mustang V6-Camaro V6
    Mustang GT-Camaro Z28
    Mustang Cobra-Camaro SS
    Mustang Boss-Camaro ZL-1

    DISCLAIMER: None of these vehicles are tuned, they are stock-stock, stock-stock, stock-stock, concept-concept. Use this as a guide for future reference.

    Jesus Christ....<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Why are all of these chevy guys so upset? Oh yeah, because their camaro ss is gonna get spanked by this stang, thats why. And why the hell did bmw guy compare the gt to the ss? Does he rally know anything about cars. The gt is meant to compete with the z28. I've seen a lot of his post, is he a 12 year old kid? Hey why don't you compare a ford escort to the z06. And yes this cobra is STOCK. Just because it has a supercharger on it dosen't mean that it isn't stock. Unless you put it on yourself it's stock. This is going to be a great car, so people stop dissing it, go bother the import people or something.
     
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    Just think all this arguing and hears the complete run down you've got a 4.6L or 5.0L I don't really care what it is VS a 5.7L and the little guy is still keeping up? can someone see the flaw in the chev guys logic? sure both these cars are good but what is better? can you even compare? O and just a lil bit of info for you 390HP Stock (Cobra) 325HP Stock (SS Camaro) And around average 70HP for a Supercharger give or take 10HP and you've got well what do you know 390HP V 395HP lets look at some more #'s shall we? 3439LBS (SS) V 3664lbs (Cobra) pretty damn even again (Ain't that somthin?) More? 350ft Lbs (SS) V 390ft Lbs (Cobra) now the most important thing to note both these cars cost about the exact same, shit the Cobra for stock looks like the better car even though the Camaro has the bigger engine. Just a thought<!-- Signature -->
     
  18. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

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    <b>no replacement for displacement? hell, ford proved that wasn't true long ago...i.e. '95 5.0 mustang gt (stock of course) 215hp vs. a 2001 4.6 mustang gt at 260hp. sorry, but displacement is overrated. besides, a camaro with equal power would still be outdone on a road course. .</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Do you want to know why the hp is different. Its because they have different camshaft profiles along with numerous other differences.
    Ford only proved they did not know how to make the numbers with the 5.0 but the aftermarket did. That is why so many 5.0 mustangs dominate so many dragstrips and not the 4.6. There honestly is no replacement for displacement if you want to make nice torque figures at low rpms. (superchargers, turbo chargers, nitrous) Can give you better low end torque but they can be complicated and jeapordize reliability if not set up correctly. If displacement is over rated then why do the only 330 mph 1/4 mile cars (dragsters) use very large engines? It is obviously beneficial in order to make a car fast as hell. I can go on and on but your like the only person on earth that does not understand this so go cry to mommy now.
     
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    84Fordman, you just keep getting dumber and dumber!!! You tell the other guy to compare a stock car to a stock car, but then you're too #$%#ed up to realize that this mustang is TUNED!!! You're an idiot! A stock SS would kill a stock Mustang GT, so quit your whining and don't wet your diaper you #$%#ing baby. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    With every post, you prove to me that all that "top mechanics" bullshit you fed me, was bullshit.

    This Cobra IS STOCK. Whether it rolls off the line with a blower (like this one) or supercharger (Like the Lightning) or turbos (Like the RX-7), it's still stock. If the blower/supercharger/turbo is in the vehicle's production plans, guess what? It's stock! TUNED is when someone gets to it AFTER it has rolled off the assembly line, like Lingenfelter or Alpina or Dinan or RENNtech.

    No where the hell did I say a GT would even race an SS? Come on you dumbshit, tell me. Once again, I have to spell it out for you:

    Mustang V6-Camaro V6
    Mustang GT-Camaro Z28
    Mustang Cobra-Camaro SS
    Mustang Boss-Camaro ZL-1

    DISCLAIMER: None of these vehicles are tuned, they are stock-stock, stock-stock, stock-stock, concept-concept. Use this as a guide for future reference.

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    In case you didn't notice this stang is tuned by SVT (the same company that tuned the Stryker Viper to about 1000 bhp). So YES, SVT goes under the same category as Renntech, Dinan, Koenig etc...
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    why is it that every chev guy have to come and diss every ford car, and of course compare the damn thing to a ZO6 thats a given, i seriously don't even have to read it because I know what you guys are going to talk about. SVT (special vehicles team) is part of ford think of it as a better ford or like M3. It is stock people. Oh and if you are going to say wait until 2005 or what year camaro to come out show me somewhere that say's its going to come out. I knew what you were going to say haha. Ford fans let these guys have their fun, we will have ours on the road.
     
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    If you wanted to get technical the SS is tuned by SLP.
     
  22. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

    84fordman, don't bother with him it just ain't worth it.
     
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    Vettes Camaro's and firebirds have the shittiest reliabilty in the world. read consumer reports once in awhile.
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  25. Re: Any Ford fan who replies.....

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    <b>no replacement for displacement? hell, ford proved that wasn't true long ago...i.e. '95 5.0 mustang gt (stock of course) 215hp vs. a 2001 4.6 mustang gt at 260hp. sorry, but displacement is overrated. besides, a camaro with equal power would still be outdone on a road course. .</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Do you want to know why the hp is different. Its because they have different camshaft profiles along with numerous other differences.
    Ford only proved they did not know how to make the numbers with the 5.0 but the aftermarket did. That is why so many 5.0 mustangs dominate so many dragstrips and not the 4.6. There honestly is no replacement for displacement if you want to make nice torque figures at low rpms. (superchargers, turbo chargers, nitrous) Can give you better low end torque but they can be complicated and jeapordize reliability if not set up correctly. If displacement is over rated then why do the only 330 mph 1/4 mile cars (dragsters) use very large engines? It is obviously beneficial in order to make a car fast as hell. I can go on and on but your like the only person on earth that does not understand this so go cry to mommy now.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    excuse me, but a drag car is no argument for displacement in any car that is a production vehicle. i'm not saying that displacement isn't important, but it certainly isn't something that can't be overcome with a tweak here an there. your referrence to a drag car shows how well you comprhend what i was getting at sherlock. a drag car is COMPLETELY......ahem.....C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y different from a stock stang or camaro or anything else. displacement doesn't seem to be a huge factor in the BMW M3.....but then i guess you have a hard time believing that 330+ horse can come from an engine smaller than a 4.0. technology can bring down most barriers that displacement brings about. you might wanna go ask your own mommy to help you read and, more importantly, UNDERSTAND this.
     

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