Tell me why!!!!!!???????

Discussion in '2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R' started by v0locity, Aug 10, 2002.

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    hey there boys and girls. the only reason why they stop shipping it over here was cuz that there wasnt enough buyers and there are a few other reasons too. ill list them

    1. well yall know already not enough buyers.
    2. it takes to much money to maintain.
    3. rotary breaks down after a long use. to get technical i mean that as in the APEX SEALS break after a long use. and when that breaks you gotta replace the whole engine. see rotary as most people would know it spins. the shape of it is like a triangle but hte sides are curved. each tip has a apex seal. well thats the part that breaks...

    but hey it would be nice to bring there car over here.
     
  2. Re: Tell me why!!!!!!???????

    The answer in one phrase is Macroeconomics. No for real. What had happened was that around 1994-96, the yen really took a severe beating in the global market. As a result, Supras, RX7's and Fairladies(300zx) all were forced to raise prices immideately. At around the same time, the viper came out, and many North American Consumers figured they'd spend the same ammount on a Viper which had more hp/torque. Hence, the market dies, and these lovely cars are sent back to Japan for good. You can still get one from Japan, Just be ready to spend Ferrari money on it, that's no lie. You have so many components to change. Good Luck, we're all hurt by this.
     
  3. #3 RX-7Guy, Aug 10, 2002
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    Okay. Just a few things. It is not impossible to bring this car back. They would just do the same thing that they do to import Skylines. Motorex in California imports the Skylines, and they stay RHD. Makes for a very interesting car! Yes, they would have to change things to make them legal, but it could be done.

    Check this site out!
    http://www.rotarynews.com/view.php3?article=20020326.html

    Yup, looks like it would be possible to sell them. And there very well could be enough of an interest. Mazda is bringing back the rotary, so there should be enough interest for a rotary sports car! And at 45K I would jump for one if I had a better paying job! Nice replacement for my '85 GS!

    Just my 2 cents!
    Chris<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Basically its like everyone is saying it all comes down to the market at the time these cars were pulled. I am refering to rx-7's, supra's, 300zx's and the like. Most were discontinued or set for final sale in NA in 96' when the market for such cars was low. However with the market turn around and the street racing craze/mod craze these cars are more popular than ever. However the manufacturing and sales and all the other things that come with introducing a car back to the market would simply be too much work. The sales/advertising campaign alone would be a lot of work, time and money for any car company to take a gamble on. Also these companies all sell cars competitively in the NA market and its not good business sense to flood the market with other goods because it will both decrease the value of other cars in the market and also make it harder to sell the ones that they are currently marketing. Truly i believe this is a sad state of affairs because i myself would have loved to own a new rx-7, supra, gtr 34 or 300zx but i know thats not going to happen. Sad i agree but this is the way it is.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from EspritV8</i>
    <b>WHY CAN'T MAZDA BRING THIS CAR BACK TO THE U.S? I know that during the time they stopped shipping them here that the entire market for sports coupés was sour, but as we ALL KNOW, the market has been flooded and is still strong. Obviously Mazda knows because they decided to make the ugly, yet nicely powered (it has good potential) RX-8. If they really listened and mabye swallowed some pride and brought it back at a good price, they would most likely still be making them past sumthin like 2005!! I guess the only way is to import one personally. Even then, you would have to change the driving side. I don't know, but I don't know how cost effecient or feasable that really is. Seriously. I am PISSED off about all the discontinued Japaneese sports cars that are only available in Japan. If anyone truly knows why, pleas respond because I would TRULY like to know. Thanks.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The main reason they stopped shipping the rx7 (other than sales) was the incredibly high emissions the rotary put out. The reason the rx8 is coming instead of the rx7 is because the rx8's new rotary runs much cleaner.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    thanks for the heads up dude i didn't know that <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
     
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    um.... civic and especially FOCUS is kid's toy compare to this car...
     
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    yup
     
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    The RX-8 was basicly built by the guys who did the RX-7, but on their own time because Ford (I hate them for this) did not see a market for a rotary. But once the engineers presented their work, Fords market gurus had a change of heart. I think with that kind of shift in the management opinion, and the dedication of the engineers, the cars will be basicly superior in terms of engine character than the RX-7 ever was. But hell, maybe MT misreported when I read this, and so maybe all the speculation I just did is hot air.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Okay, hold on now! You do not need to rebuild your rotary motor every 80K miles. That is very bogus. The only people who need to do that are those that let their motors run without oil, or do not take good care of them.

    That is the biggest reason people say their are unreliable. They just don't know how to take care of them, and their aren't too many places that know how to properly fix them. I had in excess of 160K miles on mine before I needed a rebuild!

    Chris<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Personally I did not know that rotary engines had high emmisions either. One would think they would be lower due to its lower displacement and all, ya know? Then again, us true car lovers must admit that emmissions is not the first or even the fifth thing we look for in a car... hehe=)<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. WHY CAN'T MAZDA BRING THIS CAR BACK TO THE U.S? I know that during the time they stopped shipping them here that the entire market for sports coupés was sour, but as we ALL KNOW, the market has been flooded and is still strong. Obviously Mazda knows because they decided to make the ugly, yet nicely powered (it has good potential) RX-8. If they really listened and mabye swallowed some pride and brought it back at a good price, they would most likely still be making them past sumthin like 2005!! I guess the only way is to import one personally. Even then, you would have to change the driving side. I don't know, but I don't know how cost effecient or feasable that really is. Seriously. I am PISSED off about all the discontinued Japaneese sports cars that are only available in Japan. If anyone truly knows why, pleas respond because I would TRULY like to know. Thanks.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    First, follow the money, fool. You think that this car would sell, but I bet Mazda knows that it won't. The market for sport/compacts right now lies in the hands of the under 25 crowd. Look at the prices of the Civic, GTI, Focus, etc... All of their prices start under $20K. This car did and would cost around $30K if they were to bring it back. Therefore, the price would be well above its target market. Second, I could be wrong, but if you were to import one, I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't have to change it from a right-driver to a left-driver. The most you'd have to do is get it to pass emissions (In CA, I believe) and maybe add a bumper of some sort (Like the McLaren F1).
     
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    How ironic you say that. Being that there are more S2000s, Z3s, TTs, Celicas and Eclipses (which are over 25 by a good amount), Corvettes, and other cars. Listen geniASS, as a broker, we recieve more request for these cars and others in its class. Also, at dealer auctions, these hold their value regardless of mileage and age, that is when they rarely show up. There is a market. Look in the paper, you won't find people selling them because they know they have something good. Example. 1997 Subaru SVX in new condition. Seller is still asking $25K for it because he knows he can get it. The car sold by the way. Hit your facts up before calling someone a fool, fool.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Although he called you fool, he made a couple of good points. First off, they would have to change some things on this car, requiring more designing and the like, which costs more than it should. New exhaust, a decent looking bumper, moving over the steering column, all these things would take time and resources. Not to mention setting up the infrastructure of dealerships that are well stocked, ad campaigns to compete with the Impreza/Eclipse/Lancer/Civic... I hope they bring it over as well, because it's a badass car, but I think it isn't quite as easy as just shipping them over.<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. Re: Tell me why!!!!!!???????

    If you really wanted this car, that stuff should be no problem. I don't have a lot of time to be on the net, so if anyone could tell me this, I'd appreciate it:
    How much does a Jaguar XJ220 sell for here in the US?
    Why can't I just win the lottery and get 7 of them?
    Why doesn't Jaguar give me one for free?
    Why are you still reading this?
    Why are you going to reply?
     
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    haha are you really in foster city tusnami? that asian team? because you guys suck like hell, got blew out 40something to 80 by that l.a. team
     
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    I hope they can convince the buying public to by a car that needs a overhaul every x number of miles to replace the seals. On the old 7 it was about 80k or less dpending on driver style. I'll bet that number has improved dramaticly though.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    well i hope that they can find away to make a more reliable rotary... if there is such a thing rotaries are wonderful engines but the reliability has been compromised in previous editions but we will wait and see.
     

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