Re: The engine made it so expensive. I thought we were also talking about euros, my bad. Yeah it does suck, but you cant win 'em all. All the extra weight in the Corvette would be the hi-tech computer crap, and there not trying to use the lightest materials out there too, they need light ones that are affordable. Well hes doing something right being that chevy cars are the highest selling cars on the market currently. The new caviler replacement, the cobalt is said to be a very big improvement and the fit and finish is excellent. Ive always heard complaints about lotuse's reliability. Both C&D and MT mentioned this in their articles on the 05 Elise. The only corner drifting would help in would be something like a hair pin turn, and thats only because cars dont have the technology to grip through tight turns like that with speed. Oh, I thought you were talking about the "average" hair dressers, yes in that case, they would probably be driving 911s, or most likley Escalades. Well Ill tell you this, T/C doesnt help acceleration, it slows the car down. Think about it more grip=more saftey. Ive read that the LT5 was a good deal heavier than the LT1, and the LS1 is much lighter than the LT1. Most of the weight came from the engine. Why spend more money to make more power when you can save money and still sell the car just as well? In that case I guess Lotus thought it was "good enough" that the Elise would have only 190hp. Not to mention using a celica engine, typical. BTW it produced 385hp in its first few years, and 400hp in its later years. TVRs wont be cheap in the US, a Mosler MT900 is $160K brand new, the GT is 140K, and the Saleen S7 is close to half a mil, but will keep up with an Enzo, if not beat it. There are no head-to-head test that I have found comparing a TVR to a Z06 or Viper, other than when the Z06 was in the same test as the Tuscan S, but there were no track numbers. Ill look for tests that are as close as possible. I would be surprised to see the Cerbera, or Griffith take a Z06 or Viper though.