The one that started it all!!!

Discussion in '1979 Mazda RX-7 Savanna Series I' started by Paragon Racer, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. A great sports car for a great price....whata concept. if only is great performance could still be achieved on a tight budget
     
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    whoa!how junky can it it get,this things old!
     
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    i'd rather have this than a viper, vipers suck nuts
     
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    r u mad at viper cuz it kicks your little mustang's ass?
    u can't stand something that actually performs better than a mustang in the same class...
    however, the rotary engine wasn't perfected by 1979
    this car was just the start, and if u don't know it stangboy #$%#ing ford has got it's hands into mazda... for #$%#s sake... shut up
     
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    ok first of the Cobra R is faster on the track then the viper....and he didn't say anything bad about Mazda just about a viper which he shouldn't cause a viper is sick
     
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    <b>LOL it can it's called a Miata or an MR2!

    hey what is the suspension type of this car?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    The rear suspension is a live axel with upper and lower trailing arms.
    The front i believe has standard strut assembly, rear steer, and a torsion bar.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    My dad had one of these. We did 180kph on the motorway on it. Cool.
     
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    This car is a work of art...man oh man what a car! I love it! and no shit it's old you #$%#in dumbass, if u want new get out of "PAST supercars"!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from noamericans</i>
    <b>r u mad at viper cuz it kicks your little mustang's ass?
    u can't stand something that actually performs better than a mustang in the same class...
    however, the rotary engine wasn't perfected by 1979
    this car was just the start, and if u don't know it stangboy #$%#ing ford has got it's hands into mazda... for #$%#s sake... shut up</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    actually this wasn't the start
    for mazda I believe it was the r100 then came the RX-2 RX-3 RX-4 RX-5 and then the great RX-7. Soon the RX-8
    And chevy had a rotary corvette in the 60's and nissan had a rotary powered s11 (silvia)<!-- Signature -->
     
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    They haave a classic timeless shape that is very individual.

    Best bang out there on the market with excellent handling.
     
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    anyone who thinks this is ugly should have their freakin' eyes checked.

    the one in the pic is actually an 84-85 GSL-SE.

    the '78 has different bumpers, different wheels, and the taillights didn't have those ridges. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

    i own an '83 GSL. that thing may not be fast in a straight line, but in the twisties, you'd better watch out.

    i'm about to finish my DLIDFIS setup, and i have a racing beat header and midpipe. this 20yr old engine has 176k mi on it and it has near perfect compression; 8.75-9kg/cm^2. straight from the factory, it was 9.5kg/cm^2. i recently had her dyno'd at 109hp at the rear wheels (which would make it about 120 (estimated) at the crank). 100hp/L..not too bad for a 20 year old car.

    i recently upgraded her to "sunday driver" - she sees autocross action every few weeks, and is driven VERY hard when i take her out (redline shifts every time - she loves to rev).

    this is BY FAR the best sports car from the '80s, and it'd too bad mazda took a departure from this winning formula with the FD.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong Mr.Rotory, but isn't the reason why these engines aren't so popular is because it is very difficult to cool them and they wear quite a bit faster? That's just what I heard I dunno if it's true or nor.
     
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    they're no problem to cool, but it is IMPERATIVE to keep them cool. which means that cooling system failures can be very VERY bad.

    and as for wearing quickly, they wear no faster than an equivalent piston engine. my '83 has a whole lot of miles on it and it still pulls strong w/ great compression - doesn't even smoke.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    the idea of a rotary engine is to go fast in not to just drive around. So yes they take alot of work looking after, but if your serious about having a fast car you would be prepared to look after it. But if you are thinking about getting one and are worried about it overheating just chuck a new intercooler in it. The old ones also had quite a weak clutch alot of peoples clutches gave up but this might just be because the clutches are not made to be driven hard so if your clutch gives up dont make the same mistake many people have made just putting a standard clutch in put a heavy dduty clutch in it, and make sure you change the oil about every 3000 miles and she'll run like a dream<!-- Signature -->
     
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    im only 13 years old but i have one of these (same colour and everything as in the pic). My parents gave it to me because they couldn't sell it for as high as they wanted it. I can't drive it and its battery and electrical systems are off so it wont start half the time. But when i get older i plan to fix that all up and use this as a show car. I also plan to get a rx-8 around 2005 and use that as my every day car. This car is the one that started all of the good stuff from rotarys!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    erm

    hey, "real rotary", I hate to bust your bubble, but I seriously doubt that you could acquire an RX8 by 2005. You'll only be 16, and no 16 yr old can make that kind of money. And it would be pretty sad if your parents bought it for you. As for the rex you already have, cool. just a word of warning, though: make sure it ALWAYS has a muffler. You've been warned!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I work at a rotary shop and can tell you that the heating problems were solved in the transition from the 12A to the 13B. Look at the rotor housings and compare the size of the coolant ports.... see what I mean? The main problem with the 12A was the inner rotor housing gasket melting when engine temps ran too high. this cause a catastrophic loss of compression and, finally, engine failure.
     
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    I had the not so great experience of having apex seals let go in my old 1978 (Japan market). Very uncool in the high school parking lot!
     
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    I thought rx7 didnt start production till '79 but you guys seem to think '78. if it did start in '78 then when did series 1 end and 2 begin?
    My uncle and i are building one of these great cars and i want to know that when turbocharging, (12a or 13b), should an aftermarket hairdryer be used, is the stock one crap? what about coolers? are there any top-mounted ones that will fit? cos i dont wanna wreck the great shape of this car by giving it a bodykit to house a full-size front mounted cooler.

    peace out.
     
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    I am 16 years old. My dad has a 82 RX-7. For the post just 1 or 2 above mine. 78 was the first year. They made it for one year and switched to the 79. They didn't switch much, just the but ugly 78 lights to the nicer 79 ones is my favourite change. My dads car is exactly like the one in the picture, but it has a metal trim which goes from one side of the car, over the roof(between door, and rear windows on side)and down the other side. With this metal shining, the black paint job, and the bage leather interior, this car looks like a piece of art. But true cars aren't made for looks only, they perform as well. The entire car is almost entirely stock, with the exception of the muffler which just went 2 years ago (it was VERY loud). Even the interior is still a beautful sight. Unfortunatly I will have to pick between this car and a AMX Javeline with nearly 490 horses hunder the hood, because he would never give me both. But #$%# it, if u ever heard this AMX run u would shit your pants. It runs 11's weighing in over 4000 lbs, w/o slicks, 87 octane with lead additive (can't run on un-leaded), which is pretty amazing.

    Spin Offs are fun as hell also
     
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    just out of curiousity, would it be possible to have a diesel rotary engine??
     
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    din't these have u joint that you can't buy you had to get a whole drive shaft if so that would suck...and do you think a Ray Barton 572 Krate Hemi would fit and if so would it break those u jounts easier than the rotary?
     
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    interesting car. there's an '81 around here for $750, i'm thinking of pickin it up so i can strip it down and go bombin around in it
     
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    They started selling the RX-7 starting in 78 but its the same as the 79 model. Thats something thats common in Japan. The u-joints if I remember correctly can be changed out in the earlier ones. I think after 83 they were non replaceable but don't quote me on that one. As far as heating problems go, I don't think theres nothing wrong with 12a's cooling system. The only thing I don't like are the watercooled oilcoolers(beehive) but that only lasted a few years. I didn't really notice any kind of heating problems until they came out with the turbocharged 13bt,re, and rew motors. They're just like any other motor. With proper maintenance they'll last over 200,000 miles easily. I'm pretty sure that if you find a 1st gen rx7 for sale most of the time its still has the original motor in it.
     

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