This Car Is Fucken Shit

Discussion in '1999 HSV VT GTS300' started by greese monkey, Aug 9, 2002.

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    The whole point I'm trying to make is that the performance achieved from using a turbo can be applied to a V8 to make more power than a 4cyl Turbo. You can easily turbo or supercharge a Monaro or something...you couldnt bore out and stroke a EVO VII to 5.7L

    With the turbo monaro and turbo viper I would think that would be fairer than a turboed Monaro and NA Viper...and with the monaro ads, the cars flash past unbadged so fast that the average person who doesnt know what the cars were wouldnt know that they were vipers and BMW's, and the people that would obviously would realise that what happens in that ad wouldnt happen. There is nothing cheap and nasty about the 5.7L V8. Since when does the price of what the platform sells affect how good the car is? Does that mean a Clubbie is better than an EVO VII because the Clubbie's platform is 28K and the Lancers is 19K?
     
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    Ohh that's right Holden Nut, Holden didn't use all those sports cars that the Monaro passed in anticipation that poeple would recognise them, silly me. WHY I ask you, did Holden not use computer generated images of cars like suzuki swift, dawoo lainos, hyundai excel and dihatsu move to name a few?
     
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    Ohh that's right Holden Nut, Holden didn't use all those sports cars that the Monaro passed in anticipation that poeple would recognise them, silly me. WHY I ask you, did Holden not use computer generated images of cars like suzuki swift, dawoo lainos, hyundai excel and dihatsu move to name a few?
     
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    I don't know, why don't you email the marketing department at Holden and find out?

    As I said before, to the average person who knows nothing about sports cars, they see the Monaro winning against unmarked cars. As for people that do know about sports cars they know this ad isnt possible...this makes the ad ineffective in making people thinking the Monaro is quicker than Euro and Jap exotics.


     
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    Are we talking about the Ad for the monaro? i noticed the first tiem i saw it, it blew past all the cars that are better than it. There was a 911 in that ad.
     
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    Yes I noticed that too...but my point is, which Tickford boy doesnt seem to understand, is that people like us who see that ad that know about cars, know that the events of that ad wouldnt happen. Everyone else who doesn't know about cars, or the cars in that ad wouldnt be seeing Holden beating Porsches and Vipers etc.
     
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    Ok well yeah you are right. It's just an ad afterall. Most people who see it going past the fast cars go woah, that's not rite, ah well it's jstu an ad. and the little kids wouldn't know anything about the cars it beats anyways. So what's the problem. The ad won an award for beign one of the best ads ever. TV aint real all the time, it's entertainment, and the ad looks cool and sells the car well.
     
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    I know...I mean how many ads are realistic...now don't get me started on the Falcon run out ads...although when they first came out I thought they were funny.
     
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    I know...I mean how many ads are realistic...now don't get me started on the Falcon run out ads...although when they first came out I thought they were funny.
     
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    Yeah... especially the one where it goes past the rocket car and it says must be stuck in third. (XR8 ute i think)
     
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    Do you know what you are talking about looser. No don't think so. This car is in Australia and is one of the best Aussi made sedans. It is a great car. Think what could have happend if you make the heads bigger better airintake new exhasust system and a supercharger.
    We'd have about 400Kw on tap with just some minor improvements
    Reeves calaway could have done alot more to this car but he settled at 300Kw. Just remember He built the Sledge hammer Corvette with 669Kw that clocked 409Km/h
     
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    Who are you talking to?
     
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    The heads already flow good in the LS1...its the plastic inlet manifold that is the power sapper.
     
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    y r japs the enemy? they are just popular good reliable cars.
     
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    One too many words there I believe...should read "they are just popular reliable cars."
     
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    it's Japanese V American V European in the big car world, he wants us to stop worryign about Ford V Holden and use them both to make it Japanese V American V European V Australian
     
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    You dick........if they bore and stroke it INCREASES displacement. I just shat myself laughing at you. Yeah it does have 1000 hp..with 18 psi boost per head. Not too bad until a cam goes tearing through the head and a piston cracks......or is that why they have to run OVERLY EXPENSIVE titanium springs, retainers, and the such.

    As for the HOLDEN......I wish I lived in Austrailia. HSV 300 GTS is what I want. Gotta have one.
     
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    sorry to say that you are the idiot. he said you don't need to bore or stroee it, which is why it stays at 3L <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A> sux to be you.

    oh and btw why do you wnat a GTS300, they arnt the king 300kW anymore.
     
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    Yes I also think that the firdfalcon 300 would whoop this car but it's also quite fast.
     
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    Fords are pieces of shit. My dad bought a HSv Gto 2 months ago and before he bought it he went to holden and ford to see which car he would get. None of the fords even got close to any Hsv. The lowest Hsv model which is a clubsport is quicker than fords best car the Fpv GT.

    It just shows how crap and far behind ford are. Later in the year hsv are bringin out the Hrt 427 which will kill any car ford will ever make. Its a 400kw monster.
     
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    fact is, performance versus family sedans now days comes as follows
    the Clubsport R8 IS a faster car than the GT, but when cars are compared, it is (usually) the price range, not power figures. If that was the case, the VY GTS would pummel the GT due to the VY being lighter.

    Ford's technology IS increasing with each model range, but it seems that Holden has had many Australian firsts in an Australian car.

    The R8 is a better handler than the GT, and its quicker, but as many mags mentioned, the GT is more of a better ride and a better family car between the 2 due to softer springs & its features are more for the "family" type.

    Referring to Jimbos post about 400kw, this car already has enough power, I doubt many people who buy it would want to bring it up to 400kW - especially condidering how much this car already costs.

    Iceman, the GTS's bottom torque isn't so much hefty, which cripples its 0-100km/h time. Figures are around 5.3s, and around 13.5 for the quarter.

    Mattclarke: Ford's turbo 6 is actually, faster than the XR8 which is a bad move IMO. Overall, the VY V8 models are ontop when it comes to performance figures.

     
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    Forget the lowest HSV model beating the GT. Look at the SV8 and SS, they beat the ENTIRE ford range from XR's to GT's.
     
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    Actually the Clubsport has more features than the GT. If you go to www.carsales.com.au and do a comparison on both the cars you will notice that where there are lots of ticks in the 'standard' column for the Clubsport, they are only 'optional' for the GT.

    The GTS cannot be lacking in torque that much, cars of similar weight and power achieve very similar times.
     
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    not that they ever made such a car so its really pointless comparing
     

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