Re: This Car Is Fucken Shit The whole point I'm trying to make is that the performance achieved from using a turbo can be applied to a V8 to make more power than a 4cyl Turbo. You can easily turbo or supercharge a Monaro or something...you couldnt bore out and stroke a EVO VII to 5.7L With the turbo monaro and turbo viper I would think that would be fairer than a turboed Monaro and NA Viper...and with the monaro ads, the cars flash past unbadged so fast that the average person who doesnt know what the cars were wouldnt know that they were vipers and BMW's, and the people that would obviously would realise that what happens in that ad wouldnt happen. There is nothing cheap and nasty about the 5.7L V8. Since when does the price of what the platform sells affect how good the car is? Does that mean a Clubbie is better than an EVO VII because the Clubbie's platform is 28K and the Lancers is 19K?