this car is way overrated

Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra' started by shaggy6102, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. ok, i must say its a pretty quick car, but for a car that pull over 390 hp and it only runs a 13.3? that is disappointing, the 2002 chevy ss camaro has 325 hp and it runs a 12.9 stock.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from shaggy6102</i>
    <b>ok, i must say its a pretty quick car, but for a car that pull over 390 hp and it only runs a 13.3? that is disappointing, the 2002 chevy ss camaro has 325 hp and it runs a 12.9 stock.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Are you comparing Evan Smith's 12.9 in the SS to the idiots at Automobile magazine? Evan Smith got a [email protected] for the Cobra. Draw whatever conclusions you want.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from shaggy6102</i>
    <b>ok, i must say its a pretty quick car, but for a car that pull over 390 hp and it only runs a 13.3? that is disappointing, the 2002 chevy ss camaro has 325 hp and it runs a 12.9 stock.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    13.3? Was a first grader driving? The new cobra will run mid 12's all day. The camaro ss will run low 13's all day. I don't know were you got those numbers but you better learn how to read.
     
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    I used to hate stangs.. since until i drove an svt cobra <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">.. this one rox da house<!-- Signature -->
     
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    if you would like to know i got my information from car and driver, and last i check they do know how to race cars, and no i am not talking about an article where they put them against each other, i am basing that information where they got their best driver to run each car at seperate times. look at the new mustang and fast fords mag and they put them against each other, besides ford had to put a freakin supercharger on theirs to get it up to speed, what do you think would happen if you put a supercharger on the ss? can you say bye bye pony?
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from shaggy6102</i>
    <b>if you would like to know i got my information from car and driver, and last i check they do know how to race cars, and no i am not talking about an article where they put them against each other, i am basing that information where they got their best driver to run each car at seperate times. look at the new mustang and fast fords mag and they put them against each other, besides ford had to put a freakin supercharger on theirs to get it up to speed, what do you think would happen if you put a supercharger on the ss? can you say bye bye pony?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    What if I put a twin turbo on the cobra, what if I increase the boost to 14 psi on the cobra, what if what if...The fact is the camaro ss does not have a supercharger on from factory, the cobra does. The 2001 cobra was just as fast as the ss, and it didn't have a supercharger on it. Ford wanted a cheap way to produce lots of power until they redesign the mustang, so they put the supercharger on it. It has hit a best time of 12.6 that I know of, and is amazing on the track. That is fact, not what if.
     
  7. #7 Heyman, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: this car is way overrated

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from shaggy6102</i>
    <b>if you would like to know i got my information from car and driver, and last i check they do know how to race cars, and no i am not talking about an article where they put them against each other, i am basing that information where they got their best driver to run each car at seperate times. look at the new mustang and fast fords mag and they put them against each other, besides ford had to put a freakin supercharger on theirs to get it up to speed, what do you think would happen if you put a supercharger on the ss? can you say bye bye pony?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Car and driver got a 12.9, for the new Cobra and 13.6 for the SS/Firehawk.

    http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/features/2000/December/200012_feature_firehawk.xml?&Manufacturer=Chevrolet&Name=Camaro&class=22&page=2
    http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/roadtests/2002/june/200206_roadtest_mustang.xml?&page=2

    And the SC? Actually it's not the same. The 03 Cobra can stand a helluva lot more boost with its forged internals and iron block. The LS1 just isn't made for boost with its stock 10.2:1 compression ratio. Besides that the camaro wouldn't be stock and the mustang still would be with a warranty. Not to mention the 03 Cobra has a so much potential with small little mods than the LS1 will ever have. Yeah, you can do heads and cams for how much? Versus pullies, x-pipe, and chip for under a grand and get tons of power.

    But I guess you chevy guys can't go one post without whining about the supercharger...<!-- Signature -->
     
  8. #8 Heyman, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: this car is way overrated

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from shaggy6102</i>
    <b>if you would like to know i got my information from car and driver, and last i check they do know how to race cars, and no i am not talking about an article where they put them against each other, i am basing that information where they got their best driver to run each car at seperate times. look at the new mustang and fast fords mag and they put them against each other, besides ford had to put a freakin supercharger on theirs to get it up to speed, what do you think would happen if you put a supercharger on the ss? can you say bye bye pony?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Car and driver got a 12.9, for the new Cobra and 13.6 for the SS/Firehawk.

    http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/features/2000/December/200012_feature_firehawk.xml?&Manufacturer=Chevrolet&Name=Camaro&class=22&page=2
    http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/roadtests/2002/june/200206_roadtest_mustang.xml?&page=2

    And the SC? Actually it's not the same. The 03 Cobra can stand a helluva lot more boost with its forged internals and iron block. The LS1 just isn't made for boost with its stock 10.2:1 compression ratio. Besides that the camaro wouldn't be stock and the mustang still would be with a warranty. Not to mention the 03 Cobra has a so much potential with small little mods than the LS1 will ever have. Yeah, you can do heads and cams for how much? Versus pullies, x-pipe, and chip for under a grand and get tons of power.

    But I guess you chevy guys can't go one post without whining about the supercharger...<!-- Signature -->
     
  9. #9 Mantronix, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: this car is way overrated

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    <b>if you would like to know i got my information from car and driver, and last i check they do know how to race cars, and no i am not talking about an article where they put them against each other, i am basing that information where they got their best driver to run each car at seperate times. look at the new mustang and fast fords mag and they put them against each other, besides ford had to put a freakin supercharger on theirs to get it up to speed, what do you think would happen if you put a supercharger on the ss? can you say bye bye pony?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    LOL what an idiot. Read all the threads on this car and them come back and state your idioic responses. First off....this car has a quarter mile run of 12.4 secs and 12.6 secs under bad conditions.
    Second of all this car has a low boost supercharger on it, put the same supercharger on an SS and guess what...Cobra would still be faster....Do you know why? because ford engines respond way way better to forced induction than chevy's pushrod. Still not convinced? See what happened when vortech put the same supercharger on both a 2000 cobra and a 2002 SS.

    464 Horses non intercoold and 494 horses intercooled for the cobra
    418 Horses on Non intercooled Ram air and 470 Horses intercooled on Ram air Camaro.
    Freakin new jacks piss me off

    http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/yourcar/01mustang_cobra.html
     
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    Shaggy is an idiot! This type of argument has been over since February! Don't bother fellas the real Fbody boys like me know what's up, keep your comments to more intelligent guys like me! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Shaggy is an idiot! This type of argument has been over since February! Don't bother fellas the real Fbody boys like me know what's up, keep your comments to more intelligent guys like me! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I know, it seems like every week theirs some wiener on here that says that this cars slower than this one, has his facts all wrong, and blabbers on and on about it. Personally I think its elCam71, who if we all recall was banned not to long ago, and made the same claims. Also bear in mind this guy has about 3 posts. SO even if its not ElCam, its probably one of his butt-buddies that came on here and did the same thing.
     
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    Why did shaggy say that the ss had 325 hp? The last time i checked, which was today, it had 335. Shaggy also said that the ss ran 12.9 seconds stock and, the last time I checked, which was today,it ran 13.5 seconds. And lastley shaggy said that the cobra ran 13.3 seconds and, the last time I checked, which was today it ran 12.5 seconds









    RETARDS!
     
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    Car and driver gave it 0-60 4.6, 1/4 mile 12.9...learn to read.
     
  14. when you own a cobra, or a camaro ss for that matter, you can talk about how good it is, and be able to prove it. Otherwise, stop talking about stuff you dont know about.


    (btw, cobra |20x0|2zz SS)
     
  15. Actually, this car is underrated. Keep in mind they underrate the power for insurance reasons. I have an SS, but come on, if anything lets bash ricers before other American cars, cause I would take either of these over any WRX, RSX, or any of those crappy Japanese cars
     
  16. laern to read is right #%$
     
  17. You probably shouldn't be so quick to call Japanese cars crappy, the build quality on most far surpasses any American car.

    BTW - What American car could possibly compete with the Tommy Kiara ZZII? I guess you could call the Saleen S7 American, in which case you could say it MIGHT handle better than the ZZII.

    Anyway, back to the point, the WRX and RSX are cars more to be compared to the Mustang GT.

    Take the STi and compare that with the SVT Cobra, any wise person would go for an STi over the SVT Cobra, it's the practical choice, although I guess for the similarities in performance (acceleration anyway), and the price, I guess it's really a matter of personal taste.
     

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