Re: this v.s mclaren f-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In gear acceleration is how quick it does a certain speed to another speed in one gear. For example 40-60 in fourth gear. 0-100 times kind of tell us about in gear times and 1/4 trap speeds do a little also, but they only show the car running at optimum acceleration. This rarely happens on a race track, and often driver's run in a higher gear than optimual to save on gas. 60-0 or any speed realy(there is a point when it will matter, like 150, 200 mph) to 0 means jack shit on a race track when one of the cars doesn't have ABS. ABS allows a car to stop substantially quicker from bellow 60 mph because it allows a higher percentage of braking force total. This same level is impossible to achieve in a car without ABS because it would require the driver to pump his foot at a rate unimaganable, and the limits of a constant force stopping the car are lower than one with a pulsating stopping force. The McLaren has three things going for it when it comes to high speed braking, something does matter on a race track. It weighs less, has a lower center of gravity, and has more braking power available(Both brake system power and tire traction power). So in principle the McLaren F1 should out brake the 800 tt when it comes to higher speed braking. These principles are based on physics thankfully, and are usually a very accurate picture of real life. If you want to disagree with science, and go with a biased test that realy means nothing even if it wasn't biased, then go ahead. I tend to believe science though. Now you say the 800 tt did 0-100-0 in 9.9 seconds. First I would like to see a reference for that number, but so far you information has been pretty reliable so I will trust that number. A couple of things, what was the 0-100 time in that run? In the McLaren F1 LM's 0-100-0 run, the time you reger to, it was on a wet track, with old tyres, and ran a 6.7 sec. 0-100 time. Also, the brakes were locked up for the last 40 mph of it's run, which ABS would have taken care of. So for 40 mph the 800 tt was getting makimum braking power, and the McLaren was getting about 70%. I would also like to ask if the 800 tt was on street tires, or cheater slicks for that test? I question this because I have seen a lot of numebr's posted for the 800 tt on cheater slicks, which makes the numebrs a bunch of horse wash for comparing these two cars. Once again, on a skid pad test a car can be set up to do better, but have worse overall handling qualities. When a car is braking hard into a turn, shifting weight, then accelerating hard out of a turn, the less weight the more g's the tires can handle. A skid pad test does not test any of these characteristics. Then yo talk about slalom tests, ever wonder why every car gets about the exact same speed in those? Or why the fastest times usually corralate to the most powerful cars? Or how about the fact that the best handling cars, according to people who have driven them, do not get the best times? There is no correlation to be found relating good slalom numebrs to good performance. Don't throw a bunch of numebrs at me either, I know what they are already, and people can easily go find them themselves if they want to know what they are. You also never hear a racecar suspension engineer talk about how many g's on the pad, or slalom time. They talk about how many g's can the tires take? What are the center of gravity heights, it's weight, and what not. They want to know about how the car will be effected during sudden directional changes. Based on physics, the McLarn F1 should out handle the 800 tt, and it has already out handle some of the best racecars in the world.