this V.S the f-50 gt

Discussion in '2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT' started by FireBird175, Feb 17, 2003.

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    Apex 750:
    0-60: 3.6
    1/4mile: 11.8 @ 124mph

    Venom 800:
    (on street tires)
    0-60: 3.21
    1/4 mile: 10.71 @ 137.6 mph

    (this would be the end of the conversation) <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  2. #27 scarletserpent, Feb 21, 2003
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    Re: this V.S the f-50 gt

    actually when car and driver tested them the Hennesseys best run was 3.93 http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/comparisontests/2002/september/supercars/0209_sc_challenge_4th_results.xml

    The apex's best 60 waz 3.62 http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver

    both the tests were done on a track so i guess the conversation is really over when they are both on a strip.

    your time for the apex is similar to mine and the 3.62 is from a track so it should perform better on a strip and we kno already kno the hennessey can do better than 3.93 on a strip

    the APEX did beat the TT in both the 0-60 and quarter mile but im willin to wait till they get them on a strip side by side and go all out cuz we all kno they can run under 3s
     
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    well, i got the times from that C&D comp.

    But as everyone knows, EVERY cars performance in that comp. suffered due to the conditios the cars were tested in
    (if u look at the times on the hennessey, they're almost close to stock, because of the conditions)

    So really the times on the apex would be much better than 3.6 to 60
    (i'd guess around the TNT 777hp vipers times) <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    Bloody hell u 2 talk alot...
     
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    F-50 GT.
     
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    the track conditions were the same when the TT and 750Lethal were tested but although conditions were not great as u said they were still tested under the same conditions and the apex did do better so whoz to say the Apex wont do better if the conditions better.
     
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    true, if the conditions were better the apex could still win, but also, if the conditions were better and the 800tt having 75mph slaloms, 1.06g's on skid, and 110 to 60 braking, who's to say the 800tt wouldn't have a chance as well. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    to back up my last post, that the 800 could do better than the apex in better conditions (even though the apex won in the bad conditions) i'll post these:

    MOTORTREND HIGH SPEED GAMBLE:

    WET SURFACE Maximum Lateral G(g):

    Toyota Supra Turbo 0.88 g
    Chevrolet Corvette 0.85 g
    Acura NSX-T 0.83 g
    Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 0.82 g
    Porsche 911 Turbo 0.79 g
    Dodge Viper GTS 0.78 g
    Ferrari F355 0.75 g


    DRY SURFACE Maximum Lateral G(g):

    Dodge Viper GTS 1.01 g
    Ferrari F355 1.01 g
    Porsche 911 Turbo 1.00 g
    Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 0.95 g
    Acura NSX-T 0.94 g
    Toyota Supra Turbo 0.94 g
    Chevrolet Corvette 0.93 g

    here, the viper in second to last place on wet surface, took first in better conditions. so maybe the 800 could out-do the apex on a dry surface.
     
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    may be may be but u'll never kno till they are tested side by side and being pushed to the max.
    The apex does have an awsome audio system and DVD and tv and their body highlights with the polished aluminum finished parts does give it a great look and i grew up in the big block era that 550cube V10 sounds pretty impressive besides Hennessey's a bit more expensive any way and as far as the comparison we will never kno untill they are compared and with the apex gaining popularity like it is i c a viper shootout comin real soon. The apex also has several other comfort and luxury modifications that put it way ahead of the Hennessey in comfort and luxury and the interior package also looks great it has been compared to benz, porsche and even ferrari as far as comfort and luxury.
     
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    that chart is like backwards...
    those who do good on the wet...do bad on the Dry...
    those who do good on the dry...do bad on the wet...
     
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    Not exactly, you're just looking at how the viper does in comparison to the other cars, but if you look at the stats. again, EVERY CAR improves going from the wet surface to dry surface, THE VIPER JUST HAPPENED TO IMPROVE BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER CAR. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    WET SURFACE Maximum Lateral G(g):

    Toyota Supra Turbo 0.88 g
    Chevrolet Corvette 0.85 g
    Acura NSX-T 0.83 g
    Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 0.82 g
    Porsche 911 Turbo 0.79 g
    Dodge Viper GTS 0.78 g
    Ferrari F355 0.75 g


    DRY SURFACE Maximum Lateral G(g):

    Dodge Viper GTS 1.01 g
    Ferrari F355 1.01 g
    Porsche 911 Turbo 1.00 g
    Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 0.95 g
    Acura NSX-T 0.94 g
    Toyota Supra Turbo 0.94 g
    Chevrolet Corvette 0.93 g

    IMPROVEMENT (from wet to dry surface):
    viper- + .23g
    ferrari- + .26g
    porsche- + .21g
    mitsu- + .13g
    nsx- + .11g
    supra- + .6g
    vette- + .8g

    (well, the ferrari improved better, but still obtained a 1.01g, same as viper) <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    the venom 100TT package can run up to 24psi, quoted from hennessey site,at just 2500 rpm. at 15psi, its already making 900hp, 150more than that apex viper. of course, the torque is goin to be quite higher,so i believe the TT does still have an advantage by its mass number of power. you dont even need the turbos max boost to already be overpowering the apex
     
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    where the hell did u pop out of ? the 1000TT isnt in the comparison buddy indeed it would absolutely rip the apex to peices im talking about the 800TT at TT-spec withought any additional modifications
     
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    yeah, "where the hell did u pop out of ?"

    lol, he even has a thread on the 1000tt (which is only the 100th one on the car here.)

    But anyways silentserpent, good conversation. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    this is kind of irrelevant to the topic but just thought id share some thing i thought waz funny i watched a video clip made by a bunch of guys from a Honda club and they rented a GTS raced it againt a civic DX the civic had K&N intake, exhaurst and a 25shot dry system lol and they expect people to beleive the civic won withought the race being staged lol its pretty sad cuz at the end of the clip the guy in the viper brakes to let the civic pass him and he also lets the civic take off the line before him lol i just think if some one wants to try some thing like that they could atlest make it seem realistic
     
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    Yeah, i believe i've seen that video (was it at night? the civic had coffee can exauhst? the civic was a hatchback?) that's the one i saw.
     
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    yep thats the vid i dl it from a site that had the whole story im tryin to find the site
     
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    yeah, that vid. is very poor, (the viper clearly wasn't off the line fast, it was never opened up to full throttle, and you can see the brake lights come on) You'd have to be an idiot to believe that vid. is an actual race. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    well i don't see many american shows...
    but we have the Crocadile Hunter...?
     

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