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  1. This could work. Dunno the price of F6S, though.
     
  2. #27 marcusmv3, Jul 27, 2014
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    You're wrong, laughably wrong. Wrong on a magnitude of ten because it costs ten times the amount to execute someone, the average cost of appeals of a death row inmate far exceeds the cost of giving someone shit food and shit housing the rest of their life. Do you know how much lawyers get paid? Do you know how little prison food and per inmate prison maintenance costs? Don't believe me? Would you believe a judge who sentenced nine men to death? Or, you know, you could believe any of a number of surveys conducted on this very topic.

    '"It's 10 times more expensive to kill them than to keep them alive," though most Americans believe the opposite, said Donald McCartin, a former California jurist known as "The Hanging Judge of Orange County" for sending nine men to death row.'

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-07-exepensive-to-execute_N.htm
     
  3. And there are a number of states looking to abolish the death penalty with cost being the primary motivator. You have to be completely asleep on this issue to believe that execution is cheaper.
     
  4. AFAIK its really not that expensive, maybe even less so than the equivalent volume of helium.
     
  5. Well hurry up and go get a patent!
     
  6. #31 ETB4U, Jul 27, 2014
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    I'm betting the judge didn't factor in healthcare costs. Also, what makes you think a judge sees the invoice for inmate care?

    http://www.mountain-news.com/news/crime_log/article_4f1e45f8-5630-11e0-93da-001cc4c002e0.html

    "the current annual cost for maintaining an inmate in a state prison is $47,102." (not including appeals)

    "say it costs an additional $90,000 a year, including the cost of appeals, to house prisoners on death row than in the general inmate population." (including appeals)

    "in California, prisoners typically spend 20 years on death row before they're executed,"

    20 x $90,000 = $1,800,000

    The average age of a prisoner is 31. Let's say that person lives to be 71.
    40 x 47,102 = $1,884,080.

    This also doesn't account for the increased health coverage that is mandatory for prisoners.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/31/health-care-costs-for-older-inmates-skyrocket/2038633/

    http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/reports/2014/05/15/managing-prison-health-care-spending

    You'd be naive to think the medical needs of someone who is 40 is anywhere near that of someone who is 60.

    In for life inmates can also appeal, so they too incur appeal costs.
     
  7. #32 webber f1 racer, Jul 27, 2014
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    Lol $90,000 a year when there are serious, high-profile, dragged-out appeals going on? You for real?
     
  8. #33 ETB4U, Jul 27, 2014
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    http://health.costhelper.com/dialysis.html

    " a single hemodialysis treatment typically costs up to $500 or more -- or, about $72,000 or more per year for the typical three treatments per week."

    Yeah, I'll let you think about what happens when an inmate gets to be on dialysis for an additional 20 years.

    YAY MORE MATH!
    20 * $72,000 = $1,440,000
    Oh, SNAP! And, that's just the price of the procedures. Not including the already mentioned usual costs for the inmate's stay. Also, there are many more conditions that must be treated for inmates <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  9. Oh SNAP!!!!! You just got TOLD!!!


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  10. All costs have been factored into those surveys including healthcare for life inmates as well as the average cost of their appeals. The judge did not conduct them himself, more likely universities and media outlets did (duh).

    Healthcare and the likelihood that it is needed still does not overcome the cost of appeals for those on death row. This issue has been settled and you're just being obtuse. It's not that hard to imagine: everyone in prison is not on dialysis, but everyone being tried for capital punishment almost always goes through many appeals.
     
  11. Also your sources only talk about the actual cost of inmate healthcare but do not mention any comparison to overall inmate cost over a life sentence versus cost of execution. So you can throw those numbers around all day, the sad fact is the execution costs are still bigger.
     
  12. #37 nappyjb37, Jul 28, 2014
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    Ahem, I believe your quoted article says it costs an ADDITIONAL $90,000 a year, or:

    20x(90,000+47,102)=$2,742,040 (or the equivalent of a 60 year prison sentence).

    Now recall that life sentences often end decades before the inmate dies, as the vast majority of life sentences include the chance of parole after 15 to 25 years (and these are very often granted).
     
  13. #38 webber f1 racer, Jul 28, 2014
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    Wow, I didn't realise every inmate was on dialysis.

    You done being a thick **** yet?
     

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