who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

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  1. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    Maybe<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. if with the s2000 they put 240 hp in a 4 cyl , what would happen if they made a v12 engine , wiht a v6 engine they made 608 hp for the le mans entrant nsx castrol mugen gt ,who wants a mclaren i want a v12 car made by honda
     
  3. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    not relly..... lookit bugatti and bmw's makes... the mclaren for one.<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    honda's are the biggest pices of crap made. who cares the most hp per liter. jeez they had a G>M 5.7 liter with 1500 hp. so i guess your wrong there. i hate stupid f*cks, that don't know there A$$hole from a whole in the ground.
     
  5. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    Yes, but what were the circumstances under which that engine was used, and was it turbo'ed? If it was normally aspirated, and on a production car, then I'm very impressed, however if it was a racing engine, then that's little more hp output than a 1.5 liter formula 1 engine, it all depends on what it was used for, and how it got there.
     
  6. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    Lotus
     
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    <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/confused.gif"></A> huh? Lotus makes cars that handle phenomenally well, and makes good quality engines, but their engines are far from the bhp/litre output of Honda engines.
     
  8. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    I think you mean power to weight not bhp/litre when talking about lotus.
     
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    RX8 1300cc (that is all it displaces i dont care what you say about how many times it fires in a complete cycle) which is na and it says from THIS site "192.31 hp/litre"

    say what you want but the FACT still remains that the RX8 has a better hp/L
     
  10. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    wiskyjax or whoever you are. You should learn how to spell before talking shit.By the way do u have a mullet or a camaro from the 80's with a snake airbrushed on the hood?
     
  11. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    you are a hillbilly
     
  12. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    Yes, it's true, Rotary Power kicks @$$, but there are also disadvantages to Rotary engines.

    Drone 46 - Yes, in Hp/Weight, Lotus reigns supreme, but this topic is hp/litre, not hp/weight.
     
  13. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    yeah.. sure they have decent bhp/litre. but if you don't have the torque to get you accellerating, each and every one of those hp's are utterly useless. besides honda makes up with their engines where they lack in body design. the dam things rust off the lot. had a 93 civic for a couple months in 98, wheel wells were nothing but rust, and they don't even salt the streets here.
     
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    Well, the Highways are salted where I live, the Winter's are harsh, and believe it or not I'm constantly running my car through creeks, mud bogs, etc. (driving fast on dirt roads does have its cool perks<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>). I have a 1990 Civic SI which has a worse rating for rust than 92+ Civics, and yet while I have a few small spots of superfical rust (one of which is because somebody in a big ol' Ford F150 rear ended me while I was at a stoplight - I guess he just didn't want to wait for the light to turn green as he immediately took off - removing a bit of paint which allowed some moisture to get in starting a bit of rust) it's all easily removeable (and as soon as things dry up around here I am going to take care of it all while I have two months off between school and work) and there's no real rust to speak of that might actually cause any damage. Meanwhile, I've seen a lot of Fords, Chevrolets, and Hyundais around here that are rusted to shit. Cavaliers are the worst, aside from Hyundai Ponies and early 80's Toyota Corollas. Since 1986, Hondas haven't been all that bad for rusting.

    As for looks, tell me, have you seen even ONE early 1990's Sprint, Firefly, Golf, 206, etc. that looked even half as good as an early 90's Civic? Hatchbacks may not have the looks goin' for them, but Honda certainly did a good job of making them look somewhat appealing.

    How about the NSX? Certainly looks better than ANY Camaro, Mustang, Viper, or virtually any other North American car.

    The lack of Torque can be made up for by starting and staying above 4000rpm.

    Anyway, that's my two cents.
     
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    Okay dont diss hondas now I know you think iam just another one of those people who goes around backing up hondas but have u ever driven a honda. I dont think that most of you have all u see is a little car with a tiny motor, and your right, but if I want to go out and buy a big v8 camaro I would but its the fact of making something outa nothing. I mean some people like a challenge and Iam one of them, most people that buy the v8 camaros and vettes are old hippies with a facist sense of style. The whole small car/import thing is geared towards the younger generation just as those big v8s and quote HOTRODS are for the older generation so just leave us alone and maybe we wont have to beat ur heavy ass cars on the freeway.

    PEACE IS A BEAUTIFUL THING KEEP IT THAT WAY!
     
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    THIS IS A GAY CAR!!! HONDA IS A GAY CAR
     
  17. Re: who can put more hp per liter in a car? HONDA IS THE ANSWER

    Pfffrrwoehahaha, that is such an retarted post. BTW I think you should say that Honda is a gay carmanufacterer. I've never heard of the car Honda
     
  18. Lolz..yeah..the Toyota unit in the Lotus has been around. Yamaha is the king of high-revving and small displacement though.

    Torque is important for alot of straightline acceleration people. Nothing wrong with them in a place like North America. High torque engines also usually weigh quite alot. Honda even though does not have much torque, has managed to developed a variable valving, and electronic throttle control, called VTEC. Over the years, they now have i-VTEC which is an even more intelligent version of it.

    The cool thing about Honda is that they can extract quite alot of power out of a small engine, and keep the weight down, and fuel efficiency up. I mean take a look @ the Honda Accord EX-L 2.4L I-VTEC L4. It has 160HP/160LB.ft. My friend has a Pontiac Grand AM GT with a 3.4L Ram-Air V6 with 175HP and like 205lb.ft. We both have automatics, and I have yet to fail to beat that car off the line, and especially around corners.

    Although Honda's are smaller and have less torque, you exhibit less torque steer, and what is good with the light-weight high-revving peak torque engine is you can keep it revved up for the corners and just power your way out and not really lose much breath.

    Like I said...torque monsters simple engines are good..but so are smaller more high-tech engines. I know some one will bring out the Z06 engine...but then it's not that low tech...and it is high revving..but until the day they production model makes 600HP..it's still not 100bhp/L.

    And yes...the 1.3L Rotary is a tricky thing. Technically it should be 1.3x2 hence 2.6L..but that still isn't all that bad.
     
  19. f1 cars prove you wrong
     
  20. could be both. and this is a computer forum, not one you can send SMS's to.
     
  21. Hp/litre means nothing, not even an efficient engine. To reach high hp, small engines need high rpm, +7000, a big engine needs less rpm, 4000-6000. So, if a 2 litre has it max power at 9000 rpm and a 5 litre has it at 3500 rpm, I dont think its a big difference... AND a big engine usually gets it's peak torque at near rpm as hp, (torque at 3000 rpm, hp at 4500 rpm, for example) and in a small engine this difference is bigger (torque at 4000 rpm and hp at 8000 rpm). And I dont want to talk about forced induction (turbo, supercharger) this make the difference even bigger.
    What do you think?
     
  22. Darkstalker...good point. The BHP/L is mostly just a technical bragging right thing. But the cool thing is that a 2.0L S2000 can keep up with a Mustang in straights...and thrash in corners. Same with M3's. I guess in a way...bhp/L is a way you can measure power of and engine compared to it's size and weight. All in all, I guess it's safe to say how much power a small engine can create.
     
  23. that sportec spr1 has a nice stat 220hp/liter
     
  24. Frankly, I disagree, I mean honda can,t be a gay manufacturer if it's the 3rd highest selling car maker in the US. While they are kinda bland they have pretty good engines.eg honda civic si 2 litre V6 197hp, that's pretty good if you ask me.
     
  25. Carluvr..it's a 2.0L Inline 4 cyl DOHC i-VTEC. 197HP @ like 7000rpms and 142lb.ft at 6800 or something like that. But yeah..its good. Honda manages to make a reliable performance engine which is great.
     

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