Re: Who says Americans can't build exotic supercars. --- "Spoken like a true engineer." I take that as a compliment, thank you --- It was meant as a compliment. I think like an engineer myself. Still, there are times when that can be a liability. --- but again, from what I'm told on the pre-production orders, selling them won't be an issue, building enough will be. --- So, does that mean that Mosler Automotive will soon be turning a profit? --- Those that want the closest thing to a racecar experience on the street can get an MT900. None of the above cars offer that, they may be faster, or they might be more luxurious, but if you want bare bones performance, you have one choice...ok, two, you could get an Elise --- I don't understand, if the Mosler isn't as fast or good to drive, what does it offer? What does offering a "racecar experience" mean? And why wouldn't someone consider the Ford GT to be a car that is faster, more powerful, more luxurious and possessing a more technologically-advanced engine for less money. Not to mention the GT's racing heritage through its predecessor the GT40. The Moser has some racing pedigree of its own, I grant you, but how many times have Mosler beat Ferrari at Le Mans? --- I hope [the Lotus Elise gets a cool reaction from US buyers], then maybe I can pick one up cheap --- You'll have to wait and see what happens on the used market. You may well find some bargains if lots f people buy them on impulse and then grow weary of them after a short time as owners and lots of them appear at once. Thing of it is that the traditionally strong resale prices of Toyotas and Honda S2000s may put an artificial floor on used Elise prices. --- Beyond the fact he chooses the street rod canvas though, the way he reworks the forms, and integrates engineering into styling is beauty in my eyes. His art school training, and natural artistic eye, gives him a HUGE advantage over the other street rod builders. --- But it seems you favor the retro American-car look if you like the artists and cars you mentioned. That's fine. My dad has a thing for cars from the 1930s-1950s and has owned many classics. If he wins the lottery, I expect to see him tooling around in Duesenberg. Still, that is a particular look and even the modern cars which adopt that sort of styling (e.g. PT Cruiser, Prowler, Mini, Beetle, etc.) are offered up as "retro" - meaning they are nods to the past. I'm talking about timeless styling; a design that won't look aged after a few years. That requires certain lines and proportions which these cars lack. Look at cars like the Lamborghini Miura, the E-type or original XJ6 Jaguars, the original Lotus Elan, Delorean DMC-12, McLaren F1 etc... They could practically pass for new cars today. --- I've seen both the DB7 and Tuscan upclose and personal. I really like the DB7, but the Tuscan didn't really do much for me. --- What didn't you like about the Tuscan? Also, have you seen pictures of the Cerbera? With your love of hot-rods, I'd have thought its "chopped" look would appeal to you. --- Proportions play a big role, and in my opinion the MT900 greenhouse is to narrow --- I agree with you there. It throws the whole rest of the car off. Particularly the front quarter view like the one you see at the top of this page. Anyway, I hope Mosler makes enough money off this one that they can afford a clean-sheet design on a Mark-II. Maybe some of these issues can be addressed. --- rear facia. New: http://www.moslerauto.com/images/mt900/photo/burg/photo_008.jpg Old: http://www.moslerauto.com/images/mt900/photo/burg/photo_011.jpg --- I agree, the new version looks much better - even without the color change. Is that wing mandatory? Is the car reasonably stable without it like the McLaren or does it have to be fitted with a spoiler to make it safe to drive?