Why doesnt Lambo get 720 bhp outta their engines???

Discussion in '2002 Laraki Fulgura Concept' started by EricDa Black, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. Re: Why doesnt Lambo get 720 bhp outta their engines???

    because it would make the supercar cost even more,..or merely its a ballpark figure for never gonna get made! With these numbers, this thing should run with a Speed 12, S7, McF1, and a host of others.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Meradur</i>
    <b>because it would make the supercar cost even more,..or merely its a ballpark figure for never gonna get made! With these numbers, this thing should run with a Speed 12, S7, McF1, and a host of others.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> well i don't think that this car would run with that big of a crowd. with a topspeed of 205 and a price tag that would be out of sight it would be creamed by the F1 and S7. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    revs<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from jaguarkid02</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Meradur</i>
    <b>because it would make the supercar cost even more,..or merely its a ballpark figure for never gonna get made! With these numbers, this thing should run with a Speed 12, S7, McF1, and a host of others.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> well i don't think that this car would run with that big of a crowd. with a topspeed of 205 and a price tag that would be out of sight it would be creamed by the F1 and S7. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    This car could definitely compete with the McLaren F1 and the S7. First off, this car is faster than the Mac by the numbers. Its power/weight is better (very impressive) and its topspeed is lower, so it should accelerate faster to 60 and through the quarter. The S7 is still EXCLUSIVELY a race car. Every one that has been sold to the public has been put into a race team. Saleen also hasn't been able to save many for sale because his own S7-Rs have been crashing and burning out faster than expected. This car, if produced, could beat all those classics (the F50, the McLaren F1, XJ220, 959, CLK-GTR, etc.) The problem is that, being a company that lacks experience, Laraki probably won't be able to make the car reliable or a good all-around performer. The thing will probably break like a Buick with Brembos and handle like a CRX with Konis: nice, but not sophisticated. I'd still rather have a Speed 12...now THAT'S refinement!<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. Re: Why doesnt Lambo get 720 bhp outta their engines???

    Top output is often sacrificed for torque. A diablo has much more than 444 torque. This is done by tuning the engine for top horsepower gains rather than for torque.
     
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    Well for one reason cost and the other because they are now owned by Audi/VW who actually have the guts to put that much power in an engine.
     
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    The Lambo V12 in this car is probably modified like crazy. It might even be rebuilt to make it lighter. All I know is that this probably accelerates faster than the McLaren F1.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Actually this car doesn't have a better power to weight ratio than the Mac F1, The Mac F1 has a 3.50:1 and this car has a 3.52:1 while the difference isn't large it does make a big difference. Although this thing would crush the Saleen S7 in every way. The S7 weighs in at 2700lbs and has 550hp so that makes a power to weight ratio of 4.99:1 which is no where near the performance of the other 2 cars mentioned. The car most manufacturers should aspire to is the Dauer 962LM that car can beat any other road car in the world past and present in all performance tests handling, acceleration, top speed, Porsche rules!
     
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    Big deal it has 720hp, it's just a high reving engine. Horsepower = (Torque x max_RPM)/5252. I hear a lot of guys complain about Honda's VTEC's have a lot of HP but no torque. Well that's the same thing. They rev high, but don't get a lot of tq, when tq is basically what drives the car. People should look more at tq than hp. 720hp and torque to equal it, now that would be impressive.
     
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    why don't u make a engine with 720hp /720 tq since u so damn smart, i would be proud if you could even put a engine together
     
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    technically, Lamborghini does get 720 horse outta there motor since this car is powered by a Lamborghini motor <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from m3rhkp</i>
    <b>why don't u make a engine with 720hp /720 tq since u so damn smart, i would be proud if you could even put a engine together</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->the dodge powerbox has little hp but 750 tq. now thats a bad ass car!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Power to weight ratio does not fully determine performance, it is one of the few decisive factors but it is not te only one<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from squarehead911</i>
    <b>Top output is often sacrificed for torque. A diablo has much more than 444 torque. This is done by tuning the engine for top horsepower gains rather than for torque.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Getting more horsepower is mostly achieved by altering the aspiration systems in the engine. That means new intakes, manifolds, exhausts, and it also means modified camshafts, variable valve timing, porting, and ignition timing. When you do all these things, you rarely lose torque. Increased peak horsepower is gained by increasing torque and widening the band of high-torque RPMs towards the upper part of the rev range. You can't simply decide that you want more torque and less horsepower or vice-versa; there is a direct mathematical relationship between horsepower and torque, and to increase one you must increase the other at the proper engine speed.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BugattiEB110SS</i>
    <b>Actually this car doesn't have a better power to weight ratio than the Mac F1, The Mac F1 has a 3.50:1 and this car has a 3.52:1 while the difference isn't large it does make a big difference. Although this thing would crush the Saleen S7 in every way. The S7 weighs in at 2700lbs and has 550hp so that makes a power to weight ratio of 4.99:1 which is no where near the performance of the other 2 cars mentioned. The car most manufacturers should aspire to is the Dauer 962LM that car can beat any other road car in the world past and present in all performance tests handling, acceleration, top speed, Porsche rules!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Actually, this car does have a better power to weight ratio. This car has 720hp and weighs 2535lbs, while the F1 has 627hp for its 2496lbs. That gives the Laraki a P/W (in hp/lb) of .284, which is higher than the McLaren's .25. Not a big advantage, but an advantage none the less. I'm not sure where you got your numbers, but those are the outputs and curb weights of the cars according to sc.net (admittedly not the best source.) And yes, the Dauer 962LM is a wonderful car, but if you could take any Le Mans racer and make it BARELY street legal it would be awesome.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from ~Raz~</i>
    <b>Thanx for answering me guys.. even though halg of you sound retarded except squarehead, who is right. I just wasnt really thinking about tourque and rpm.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    lol...He was wrong, and you think he's the only one who was right! That's priceless. It really is true that the people in the indy boards are dumber than those in the main forums.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. Re: Why doesnt Lambo get 720 bhp outta their engines???

    because this is a concept car-they`ll tune it down if it gets produced
     

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