Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

Discussion in '1997 Lotus Elise GT1' started by shelbymaniac, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. #26 DodgeMS-4, Aug 10, 2002
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    Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    If you really had driven a viper as you claim you would have found out very quickly that the 800tt and every other viper handles very poorly at speeds above 160mph. Being that it is an american pos which was designed to fall apart so that Dodge can make even more money off of people who are silly enough to buy one which american car manufacturers have been doing since the 60's and always will do because there is more money to be made if it is designed to fall apart and they are usually the only ones who can fix it. For your remark that the viper will spank the Lotus GT1 you should be locked up in a padded room for all eternity. Think about it for a second the Viper with its piece of crap v10 should make 800bhp stock but no you have to have a engine conversion done which costs $55k for 830bhp and consiste of these add-ons-

    Twin Garett ball bearing, water/oil cooled turbochargers with integral wastegates, HMS Aluminum Air to Air Intercoolers, Complete Turbo Tubing, Polished Stainless Inlet Tubes and Hoses/Clamps, Custom airbox with K&N filters,Upgraded fuel injection system,
    HMS 3 in. Stainless Steel Exhaust System with Hi-Flow Catalysts,
    Polished/Ported vemon cylinder head with 2.02in stainless intake valves, 1.65in stainless exhaust valves, bronze valve guides, heavy duty valve springs & titanium retainers,
    Honed/Ported instake manifold, T&D 1.7 shaft rockerarms with hardened steel pushrods, HMS lifter upgrade, HMS aluminum flywheel upgrade, HMS 2-core radiator upgrade, HMS short throw shifter,
    Venom floor mats, valve covers & serial numbered carbon fibre dash plaque.

    Taig Stewart of Salt Lake City, Utah sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey Motorsports in Houston, Texas which does the conversion to have the engine upgraded to 800TT specs, the deal was for just the engine to be upgraded for $125,000 and nothing else. The completion date was to be 12 weeks after John took delivery of the Viper GTS, what the owner found out was that Hennessey decided to sell the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood in which they had no business of even touching. Taig Stewart is currently suing Hennessey for the $145,000 it took him to get his car upgraded even though his car still sits at Hennessey Motorsports untouched (The entire story and many more like it can be read at this site -

    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=234868&page=1.)

    Now imagine things like that happenning several times over and over again, would anyone want to have a viper upgraded or even buy one after reading all of those lawsuits? If so then you dont see the whole picture of what is going on and you qualify as quite possibly the stupidest person/s on the face of this planet.
     
  2. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    hahaha true!!
     
  3. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    Vipers CAN handle. And that "over 160mph" thing, who makes a turn at 160mph? Upgrades for suspension are there if you want to upgrade. Though I think the person that asked is an idiot, I'm going to act as if it were an honest question: this thing handles better than anything. Vipers can handle, but so can these suckers. And all you really stupid people that say dumb things like "This Lotus can go 198 with just 350bhp, it takes a Viper 500.", shut up. I could get a motorcycle to go 200mph with a lot less hp, doesn't mean the hp is better or anything. It's frickin' power/weight ratio and aerodynamics. And on a track I'm willing to bet a Venom 800TT would be able to beat a Lotus GT1 IF there were to be a good amount of straight-aways. The Venom 800TT would get anally violated on the turns, but it's just too fast on the straight lines.

    And that guy that says we shouldn't trust people to mod Vipers, I'd think that SVSi and GIWASA wouldn't appreciate you making false accusations about their businesses. Don't say that you were just talking about HMS, you never distinctly said HMS in your flame on trusting people to mod a Viper. You only showed ONE crooked business, but you insulted them all and that isn't okay. Besides, HMS has upgraded many Vipers and returned them all on time.
     
  4. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    yeah it might beat it but the understeer in the viper has to be crazy, all that power to the rear wheels, you would need a very excellent driver with crazy car control to control the viper, think about it, it only makes sense that the lotus would win it most cases
     
  5. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    There is no comparison here...
     
  6. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    What if what if what if... What if they modded this car to have the same speed as the viper. What if they modded the viper to have the handling of a damn McLaren F1?!?! You people haven't even driven an 800TT so stop basing everything on stats. You never know what a car has until you drive one.
     
  7. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    Because the Viper is a piece of shit and this beauty is a work of art.
    I would also get this because there's another version of this that comes with over 600bhp and at only 200lbs it will rape your shitty viper even on a dragg strip,lol

    Imports Rule and you better recognize son!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    lol....is that 200lbs with or without driver? <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>


    I think you meant to say 2000lbs.
     
  9. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    I have to aplaud you,lol I couldn't have said it better myself heh
    UMMM anyways Imports Rule!!!!!!!






    CHEVROLET - Cheap, Hardly Efficient, Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time

    DODGE - Drips Oil, Drips Gas Everywhere

    FORD - F*cker Only Runs Downhill/(backwards)Driver Returns On Foot

    PONTIAC - Pours Out Noxious Toxins In American Cities



    spare tire"Hi i'm head of IDIOT shrine any one wanna join"?
     
  10. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    yes 2000lbs sorry heh
     
  11. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    I'd get the Lotus because not every little snobby rich jerk in America has one. The Lotus is unique, different, and a great looking car. If you want to go fast buy a 1988 Mustang, and stick $7,000 in superchargers and 300hp port injection NOS and the Mustang can pull a 7.2 second quarter mile.
     
  12. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    Oh yeah, antidomestic, kiss my a$$.
     
  13. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    kiss your own a$$ or have your mother do it for you again bulangiule!
    lol
     
  14. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    Antidomestic your mother sucks cock while she rides in a Viper Venom 800.
     
  15. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    My mom doesn't do what your mom does to sopport your sorry ass,#$%#ing redneck pos!
     
  16. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    My mother is too high class,she wouldn't go in no viper-ven-shit 800,lol!
     
  17. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    Oh yeah pimple face,Well you could just get a freaking Honda CRX si
    for about $4grand put about 10 grand at the most into it, maybe not even 10k
    and you could run just as fast as the viper ven-shit 800 tt if not faster in a quartermile IDiot!
    But my point is straight line performance means nothing with out great handling which this car has loads of!
    So if you wanna drag race why pay $167.000 when you could go just as fast or faster for about 14grand,lol MORON!

    by the way drag race=not a race,and you damn yank-tank loving morons need to realize that with your stupid muscle crap cars!
     
  18. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    Well said..and might I add who would take a viper over this?lol
     
  19. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    I'm pretty sure that many people would rather have a Viper over this because I would. And I like espirits better than elises.
     
  20. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    they must have had at least one road example.
    It completed the supercar rally in France, here is a picture of this car in Paris.
    You should really search the net for the supercar rally, some very amazing cars compete!!
     
  21. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    They did make one road car. Bukem said so anyway. That supercar rally look great thanks.
     
  22. Re: Why get this when you can get a Viper Venom 800

    because it is a lotus supercar...
     

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