with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from japan

Discussion in '2001 Ford Mustang Bullitt GT' started by bitchinstang, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    By the way, it cost less than 3500 dollars to make this power......

    That`s a 3140lb car (without lightening) and power at all four wheels.......
     
  2. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    Screw all of you! We all know Jap-Crap suck shit and that american cars kick Jap ass.
     
  3. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    people dont understand that. they think that only jap cars can be upgraded. but i agree with you
     
  4. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    Hmmm....I've seen a quickest of 12.8 for the Cobra, also 12.8 for the STi, so they're pretty much equivalent in acceleration.


    And here's a direct quote from a direct comparison between the two performed by Hotrod Magazine (*note: Hotrod magazine is geared more towards North American cars than imports, so they're in no way biased) I'll let the numbers speak for themselves:

    "..................Cobra.................STi...........
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Price.............34,750................31,454........
    Displacement......4601cc................2457cc........
    Supercharger......8.0psi................14.5psi.......
    Horsepower........390hp@6000............300hp@6000....
    Torque............390lb-ft@3500.........300lbs-ft@4000
    Ratio.............15.0.1................15.2.1........
    Final drive.......3.55:1................3.90:1........
    Weight............3,530lbs..............3,125.........
    Weight/power......9.05 lb/hp............10.4 lb/hp....

    Performance:

    Quarter Mile......13.30@109mph..........13.29@100.5mph
    Road Course.......1:22.7................121.0.........
    Fuel Economy(epa)..16/22................18/24.........
    Top Speed.........155mph................145mph........

    And a few quotes:

    "As goofy as they look, don't discount the advantage of those two extra doors accessing the WRX's very useable rear seat."

    "One could easily argue the STi is the better all-around car. It's just as quick at the dragstrip, faster around the road course, and costs less"

    "The Cobra is far more challenging to drive hand around corners than the forgiving all wheel drive STi. We also found the Cobra's heavily bolstered leather wrapped seats to be uncomfortable compared to other Mustangs we've driven.

    "Considering it's traction disadvantage, in a street race with the STi, the Cobra would probably lose."


    So, better mileage, faster acceleration, and better handling, and I doubt you'll EVER be going beyond 140mph, so the minimal performance advantage the SVT has is irrelevant.



    Face it, the cars are pretty much even in acceleration, and the STi dominates in handling, is more efficient, produces fewer emissions, and costs less, the SVT is in no way better.
     
  5. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    The "user friendly" current design of the Quattro AWD system inhibits any form of performance driving whatsoever. Limiting acceleration, handling potential, and fun factor.
     
  6. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    LOL, they're superior to Ford's

    At least Subaru has a history of designing Jet engines (and airliners) as well as cars. True, the Subarus of the late 70's and early 80's, but the introduction of the Justy Turbo changed all that.
     
  7. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    If that were so then how come you like Lotus so much? a common engine Swap for the Elise(that makes it faster than a well modified SVT Cobra), that is currently the fastest Engine for the Elise, is to use Honda's K20A or FC20, or a number of Honda's engines.


    American Cars are an alternative design that can easily keep up in acceleration, but falls far behind in crash safety, emissions, engineering....etc.
     
  8. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    Due to the lighter, stiffer chassis, "jap" cars generally have better racing potential.
     
  9. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    In case anybody missed this on the previous page.
     
  10. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    Ive seen a 2002 Mustang hit a record 1/4 mile at 3.583 seconds. A Japanese car is surely not ever gonna have that much power because there is something about Japanese cars that gives them a limit on their power. Its the size of their small engine bays (this doesnt included Datsun's cause they own in engine bay size)

    Someone mentioned that American cars may have power but they lack in speed cause of their weight which gives an advantage to the light weight Japanese cars? Thats kinda funny considering the fact that they dont know the true power behind these American muscle cars. You see people, its called torque. You think that just because Jap cars are light weight, gives them an advantage on even courses. Well thats kinda funny, I mean the Camaro SS has already beaten an S2K on a course.

    You people should read up a bit before coming up with lame (and fake) comebacks.
     
  11. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    it all comes down to what type of car u like

    and since noone will ever admit something bad about the type of car they like car comparisons are ultimatly pointless
     
  12. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    hey password, i read yer comment that stated the stats on the STi vs. the cobra, and well, 14.5 psi, thats frikken alot. I read in the June 2003 edition of MM&FF an easy way to boost power in yer cobra by boosting psi to like 12.5 or somethin. Power was phenominal...seriously. The power got up to like 460 horses and around the same torque. Just take a weekend to do what it says and BAM ya have yerself a high 11's car (provided u use good tires).
     
  13. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    Increase the boost pressure huh? unless it comes with a boost controller, you're not going to do that withoug changing the supercharger.

    BTW - I've read of WRX's running as high as 40 something PSI with stock internals.
     
  14. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    actually, what i read was replacing the blower pulleys. Wanna read all about if for yerself? Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords June 03 Issue. But before they modified the supercharger they switched the blower pulley and gave it better rubber. (They ran mid-11's with those two mods, then after that they switched the exhaust and replaced the filter. This gave it 417 before even modifying the psi of the supercharger.)

    Wow, 40 psi is one hell of alot. I wonder what would malfunction first; the supercharger or the engine with that much psi.
     
  15. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    actually turbos can handel large amounts of boost, if the car is built around it accordingly. 40psi wouldn't be 2 much if it has a proper fuel system to back that much boost
     
  16. Re: with the same upgrades a mustang could beat anything from ja

    Well yeah, but thats still a hellalot of boost. Imagine what kind of power u could get out of a 427 block with that much psi (provided the 427 could withstand that much, lol).
     
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  22. How about 140psi?
     
  23. Haha, retards. This car is shit.
     

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