ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

Discussion in '2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept' started by SSfearSS, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

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    HILL CLIMBER = HIGH TORQUE !!!
     
  4. #4 I AM GOD, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    Yeah show me this link, can I can show you about 100 cars with over 1000hp! Like I said earlier big Fucking deal!
    do you think your precious skyline could beat this car when it's finished?

    http://members.fortunecity.com/hoonau2001/realsite/tech_tips/qtv81.html

    What's my point? My point is, anyone with the right sources of income and tools can build a car that is super fast! The escudo is a damn Grand Vitara, that is superbly modded just as well as this car!
    the link I showed you is a quad turbo'd Camaro, when it's finished they expect it to run 5's! What's your precious skyline run?

    Oh yeah one more thing dumbass! Don't ever keep score of our arguments! You will make yourself look bad, because I will win!<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. The ZL1 would win and I'll tell you why. The Escudo would smoke the ZL1 in the Q-mile by just over a second. But, as soon as the Escudo hits about 150mph, the poor thing loses all torque and that 980 hp it has becomes worthless. The ZL1, with its massive displacement and torque, will smoke it at high speeds.<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    Sure i have an oppinion... Escudo can reach speeds over 200 it would win if it were a road car but its NOT... Therefore u cannot compare the two, Escudo probably would fall apart if u throw it on a and tryed to race it...
     
  7. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    it would handle fine in a straight line.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I disagree it wouldnt fall apart. The car is engineered to climb hills and climb them fast. Only thing that would shake this car apart would be bad driving. The car is built to withstand redlining and hard shifting which is what the 1/4 mile is all about. I think the ZL1 would have a chance but I would have to see it before Icould make a judgement on that one.
     
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    <b>The ZL1 would win and I'll tell you why. The Escudo would smoke the ZL1 in the Q-mile by just over a second. But, as soon as the Escudo hits about 150mph, the poor thing loses all torque and that 980 hp it has becomes worthless. The ZL1, with its massive displacement and torque, will smoke it at high speeds.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Learn about the Escudo.
     
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    Hmmm, AWD and 980Bhp, I think it might just win over a 1 mile race, check the Power to weight ratio's too.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>The ZL1 would win and I'll tell you why. The Escudo would smoke the ZL1 in the Q-mile by just over a second. But, as soon as the Escudo hits about 150mph, the poor thing loses all torque and that 980 hp it has becomes worthless. The ZL1, with its massive displacement and torque, will smoke it at high speeds.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Learn about the Escudo.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Learn about torque. Learn HP is shit without torque.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>The ZL1 would win and I'll tell you why. The Escudo would smoke the ZL1 in the Q-mile by just over a second. But, as soon as the Escudo hits about 150mph, the poor thing loses all torque and that 980 hp it has becomes worthless. The ZL1, with its massive displacement and torque, will smoke it at high speeds.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Learn about the Escudo.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Learn about torque. Learn HP is shit without torque.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    They Escudo is 800 Kg, it has 985 Bhp, you work the power to weight ratio out, it would destroy this car, a 4 wheel drive launch with 085 Bhp would make this thing look like it was in reverse.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Wow! You're really smart!!!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Your wrong it wouldn't destroy this car. Power to wait dont mean shit yiou also have to add in Torque like the man said. The Escudo is very light yes but the ZL1 canh lay down a 9 sec run. At best I think the Escudo can run a 9-10 sec run do to the fact that it doesn't have gearing for a 1/4 mile run. The car is built to clime pikes peak. Which is why its called the pikes peak version. If you really think it has right gearing for 1/4 nmile then your stupid. Power to weight doesn't mean shit without gearing and torque. Thow im sure the car has alot of torque for climmin hills.

    Basically don't assume just casue something has more or less weight and near same HP that it will beat it in a certain test. Im sure the escudo will win in a 1/8 mile run thow, but if your talkin 1/4 mile then by time the scudo reaches its final gear I figure it would only be half the way down the track. Then the ZL1 which would only be in 3rd gear would be passin the escudo ruffly about 3/4 the way down the track or they may jsut be even or the escudo will finish slitely faster. I think gearing is most important equasion here so since no one knows the gear ratio of the escudo why even say it can smoke the ZL1 or even say the ZL1 will smoke this? Food for thought.
     
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    I dunno, but NO ONE has tested an Escudo for 1/4 mile times you idiots!!!! It's not meant for a straight dash, its geared to climb mountains. And this ZL1 doing 9's?!?!?! ZL1 was a concept car showing what GM could do. some people.....<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>I dunno, but NO ONE has tested an Escudo for 1/4 mile times you idiots!!!! It's not meant for a straight dash, its geared to climb mountains. And this ZL1 doing 9's?!?!?! ZL1 was a concept car showing what GM could do. some people.....</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Ok. The Escudo might as well be seen as a concept because only 1 exists. This is obviously the best Suzuki has ever produced, so lets compare best to best.<!-- Signature -->
     
  18. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    i completly dissagree theres nothin holding the ZL1 to the ground. the escudo has nos. and besides it will win!! just becuz
     
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    <b>The ZL1 would win and I'll tell you why. The Escudo would smoke the ZL1 in the Q-mile by just over a second. But, as soon as the Escudo hits about 150mph, the poor thing loses all torque and that 980 hp it has becomes worthless. The ZL1, with its massive displacement and torque, will smoke it at high speeds.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Learn about the Escudo.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Learn about torque. Learn HP is shit without torque.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Oh !

    I'm so stupid...

    I had forgotten that a car without torque can win at Pikes Peak.
    That's sure , a hill climber doesn't need torque at all.....
     
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    <b>I dunno, but NO ONE has tested an Escudo for 1/4 mile times you idiots!!!! It's not meant for a straight dash, its geared to climb mountains. And this ZL1 doing 9's?!?!?! ZL1 was a concept car showing what GM could do. some people.....</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Ok. The Escudo might as well be seen as a concept because only 1 exists. This is obviously the best Suzuki has ever produced, so lets compare best to best.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    And how many of these have been made?<!-- Signature -->
     
  21. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

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    <b>Which one is street legal (hint: not the Escudo)</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Who cares, you can't buy either.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from EvilNinjaMoby</i>
    <b>Actually.. yeah you can.. but there is only one... and only if the guy who raced it agains tthe boss will sell it to you ( or if GM lets him.. I know it wa shis car, but who knows they might of had an agreement)

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    <b>Which one is street legal (hint: not the Escudo)</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Who cares, you can't buy either.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    It's a concept , so non homologated.

    Moreover , when the contest vs the Boss was done , both cars break.
     
  23. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    Just use an appropriate gear setting on the Escudo.I even don't think the escudo needs another gearing.
    Power/weight ratio is the key for acceleration , moreover the Escudo is AWD , which gives it a better start.IMO , the Escudo is faster everywhere.
     
  24. #24 I AM GOD, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    Yes it's faster but who cares, you'll never see it on the road! Let it be on the dirt where it's supposed to, no more hypothetical bullshit! Deug, I know you didn't start the post, I'm not exactly pointing fingers at you okay? But the post topic is stupid! The escudo has what 900 horses? and this has what? over 700? Numbers people numbers! Besides, you could build this car but you'd have to widen it to fit the 427 big block that you could purchase from this site....
    http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/PriceList/group0.033bareblocks.html

    but my point? Why compare these two cars? They're totally different! Ones a Rally car, or better yet Mountain climbing vehicle, and the other is a raw powered speed demon for the streets! Keywords...Streets, Mountain, Rally, you get the picture!<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. #25 SSfearSS, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from I Hate RustStangs</i>
    <b>Yes it's faster but who cares, you'll never see it on the road! Let it be on the dirt where it's supposed to, no more hypothetical bullshit! Deug, I know you didn't start the post, I'm not exactly pointing fingers at you okay? But the post topic is stupid! The escudo has what 900 horses? and this has what? over 700? Numbers people numbers! Besides, you could build this car but you'd have to widen it to fit the 427 big block that you could purchase from this site....
    http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/PriceList/group0.033bareblocks.html

    but my point? Why compare these two cars? They're totally different! Ones a Rally car, or better yet Mountain climbing vehicle, and the other is a raw powered speed demon for the streets! Keywords...Streets, Mountain, Rally, you get the picture!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    What is so stupid about this? Why not compare a high torque car with a high hp car? And hypothetically speaking, if both cars were on a road track, I think would be cool for discussion.<!-- Signature -->
     

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