ZR-1 THREAD

Discussion in 'American Cars' started by HeyHuub, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    I don't trust anything. I just wait and see what my balls feel like when I see/drive/smell a car.
     
  2. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    But seriously! You must remember all those practice problems in your first term telling you the effects of friction were negligible. It's a pretty common phenomenon.
     
  3. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    its just a plastic brick on leaf springs
     
  4. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4
     
  5. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    displacement =/= weight
     
  6. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    truh. Plus its a viper, Its just cant be anything short of excessive.
     
  7. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    damn
     
  8. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    Yeah I know, what I meant was if the exact same engine was engineered for a smaller displacement, in theory it would be lighter. (even if only a little bit)

    I mean for the v10, each piston/cylinder disp would go from 840ml down to 600ml and the block itself could be shortened in dimensions...which (in theory) would mean less material is used, thus lighter...but real life doesnt work like that.

    Just an idea/perspective, thats all.
     
  9. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    True I guess. Theres nothing low-key about clown shoes. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>
     
  10. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    the worlds fastest clown shoes too
     
  11. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    ferrari fxx
     
  12. #137 MindlessOath, Jul 2, 2008
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  13. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    But as been stated. The V-spec is gonna lose alot of creater comforts and wil never hit that correct balance like the ZR-1 has. I don't dought it will go faster, but i bet the ZR-1 will still overshadow it as the better car.
     
  14. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    So its the 7th of July (in my part of the world anyways)... any news on the video release?
     
  15. #140 MindlessOath, Jul 7, 2008
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    ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    just like the R35 GT-R is a better car than the Z06 in that aspect. the porsche is boarderline. but your right, the ZR1 will definatly have an upper edge.
    want a sneek peak at the Spec-v?
    http://www.gtrblog.com/index.php/2008/07/07/tokachi-24hr-race-more-nismo-r35-gt-r-bu-3?blog=4

    http://www.gtrblog.com/index.php/2008/07/01/nismo-omori-factory-tokachi-24hr-race-ca?blog=4

    http://www.gtrblog.com/index.php/2008/07/06/tokachi-24hr-nismo-r35-gt-r-at-sendai-hi?blog=4

    it wont be exactly the same, but they use a spec-v to make this car... so it will be simular.
     
  16. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    There are reports that the normal GT-R may be producing 550-580hp at the crank. I'm thinking that has to be pretty close to correct. It would tell a lot more to how they're able to run the ring 13 seconds slower than a more powerful, lighter Z06.

    I'm also predicting that the V-Spec will have little to no actual engine/power upgrades, Nissan will just reduce the weight, beef up the suspension, and quote the power as closer to it's actual figures.
     
  17. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    no video yet?
     
  18. #143 MindlessOath, Jul 7, 2008
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    ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    i really dont think you like to read.
    http://blogs.motortrend.com/6247428/new-cars/nissan-360-day-1-things-ive-learned/index.html

    about dyno friction losses.
    http://www.rri.se/index.php?DN=30

    download the pdf
    http://www.rri.se/function/functiondownload.php?FileName=EDU-PTP-N05061201-WP&FileType=pdf&WhitePaper=WhitePaper

    the GT-R makes 480hp at the crank.
     
  19. #144 Ron Simmons, Jul 7, 2008
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    ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    They can say what they want but there is no way in hell that car is making less than 500hp at the crank.
     
  20. #145 EliseS2, Jul 7, 2008
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    ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    First, that does nothing to dismiss the myth of frictional losses. It is all about the frictional losses.

    Second, suprise suprise they say that there equipment that they are selling is showing exactly what they say is correct. Wow, what a coincidence.

    Is showing marketing material really the best thing? They do not cite what standards they are measuring the cars. Not only that, but most manufactures were using different standards around 2002. So the manufacturers numbers are all over the place and we have no way to compare them against what rototest is saying. Not only that but if you take it at face value, do some cars have a 107& efficient drive train? Because that is what the information says. Obviously there are discrepancies between what rototest is getting and what manufacturers are claiming.

    Not to mention this is a terrible white paper. I mean they site no sources.

    They say they tested 404 cars, but how are there only 17 points on the curve? And how come the torque points and hp points line up with each other in respect to the % discrepancy, but the peaks of the relative distribution do not line up? For some reason I do not believe that all 404 cars had discrepancies that all fit into 17 points and they were those were the same for torque and hp.
     
  21. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    Can someone post pics of the ZR-1 interior?
     
  22. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4
     
  23. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4
     
  24. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    like this, but slightly worse
     
  25. ZR-1 laps the ring in 7:26.4

    that shifter looks like a twanger
     

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